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Ukrainian parliament recognizes militia that collaborated with Nazis
JPost ^ | 4-13-2015 | Sam Sokol

Posted on 04/16/2015 9:15:57 AM PDT by tcrlaf

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1 posted on 04/16/2015 9:15:57 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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Given that the Soviets brutally murdered around 8 million Ukrainians in the 1930s, it is not surprising that many Ukrainians initially viewed the Axis forces as liberators when they invaded the USSR in 1941.


2 posted on 04/16/2015 9:18:28 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: tcrlaf

Putin is an evil thug, but the Ukrainian Government is a evil NWO Soros creation. Both things can be and are true at the same time.


3 posted on 04/16/2015 9:20:00 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: tcrlaf

For the Ukraine and many other countries in Eastern Europe, it was a choice between Hitler’s Henchmen and Stalin’s Henchmen. Trying to pretend that Hitler was the only evil guy out there, and that the Communists were the Good Guys, is stupid.

Stalin committed some of his biggest mass murders in Ukraine. Those countries caught in the middle didn’t have a lot of choices.


4 posted on 04/16/2015 9:21:30 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Official Putin Lover Thread!

Ping me if you want on the Putin Lover ping list.

5 posted on 04/16/2015 9:22:46 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Very true.

It is also true that most of the brutality of the Soviets during the suppression of the Ukrainians after the Russian Revolution came at the hands of largely Jewish Soviet Komissars.

That led many of them to willingly participate in the extermination of the Jewish population in Ukraine.


6 posted on 04/16/2015 9:23:08 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: cowboyusa

The Ukrainian government is made up of ultra ethnic nationalists that have open ties to Neo Nazi groups.


7 posted on 04/16/2015 9:23:11 AM PDT by Borges
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Simon Weisenthal and Israel is a Putin Lover???

WHO KNEW!!!!


8 posted on 04/16/2015 9:24:05 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Nice try Vlad.

You Putin suckers are eager to post from any source, be it Huffpo, Yahoo News, Bloomberg...as long as it serves your purpose which is the love of Vlad Putin.

9 posted on 04/16/2015 9:27:44 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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They also FOUGHT AGAINST THE NAZIS. And? Didn’t we cooperate and recognize the USSR ever AFTER they sided with the Nazis in the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

This is much ado about nothing. If our country had been conquered by the USSR we would cooperate with the Nazis too if we thought it would liberate our country. And before any idiot here gainsays that remember we did essentially the same thing by siding with the USSR AGAINST THE NAZIS.


10 posted on 04/16/2015 9:27:46 AM PDT by vladimir998
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They also FOUGHT AGAINST THE NAZIS. And? Didn’t we cooperate and recognize the USSR ever AFTER they sided with the Nazis in the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

This is much ado about nothing. If our country had been conquered by the USSR we would cooperate with the Nazis too if we thought it would liberate our country. And before any idiot here gainsays that remember we did essentially the same thing by siding with the USSR AGAINST THE NAZIS.


11 posted on 04/16/2015 9:29:15 AM PDT by vladimir998
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“The Ukrainian government is made up of ultra ethnic nationalists that have open ties to Neo Nazi groups.”

While some of these groups still hold anti-jewish views, the “Sub-humans” in today’s Ukraine aren’t the Jewish, but the Ethnic Russians.

Same old hate, same old ethnic cleansing.

You actually have groups fighting under the banners of, and exalting, Nazi “heros” of the past like Oskar Dirlewanger, who helped the Eisatzgruppen work in hunting down jews in Ukraine, being now OFFICIALLY absorbed into the Ukrainian Army.

Groups like the Weisenthal Center have to say something about it, now.


12 posted on 04/16/2015 9:31:09 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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The Ukrainian Brownshirts are going to attack anything that isn’t officially pre-approved by Kiev’s state propaganda organs as “Loving Putin”, which is why you can be so easily ignored.

Or toyed with.

NO THINKING IS ALLOWED in the “New Ukraine”


13 posted on 04/16/2015 9:34:14 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Stalin rounded up ALL the Ukrainian grain, exported it in order to import industrial goods —modernization. He was okay starving 10 million “kulaks” to death (the Holomodor), many many more than the number of Jews that actually died of Typhus in German camps.

Most of us here would richly relish killing Russians after seeing our families liquidated by them.

Those Ukarainians were heroes, regardless of whatever uniforms they wore.


14 posted on 04/16/2015 9:37:28 AM PDT by gaijin
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“Stalin rounded up ALL the Ukrainian grain, exported it in order to import industrial goods —modernization. He was okay starving 10 million “kulaks” to death (the Holomodor), many many more than the number of Jews that actually died of Typhus in German camps.

Most of us here would richly relish killing Russians after seeing our families liquidated by them.

Those Ukarainians were heroes, regardless of whatever uniforms they wore.”

Uhhhhhhh.....
Are you denying the Holocaust happened?


15 posted on 04/16/2015 9:41:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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The Ukrainians are pikers compared to the Russians when it comes to propaganda and manipulation of the press. They wrote the books on this, yet you ignore this fact for some reason and project it on the Ukrainians.

Stalin had a name for people in the US that supported his regime and the same applies for Putin's lovers as well.


16 posted on 04/16/2015 9:41:28 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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“NO THINKING IS ALLOWED in the “New Ukraine””

No, clearly that’s true of Putanistas like yourself. A thinking person would realize that the Ukraine is in a fight for its very life and therefore might make pacts with the devil it knows to fight the devil it fears. We would do no differently and our history shows that to be the case.


17 posted on 04/16/2015 9:43:46 AM PDT by vladimir998
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Tell it to Simon Weisenthal, not me...

As I said,the Ukr Brownshirts attack anything that isn’t pre-approved by EuromaidanPR as “Putinista Propaganda”. No independent thought is allowed.

These days, after a year of it, it’s actually quite sad.


18 posted on 04/16/2015 9:44:50 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Borges

Careful you’ll be called a Putin lover

My son really follows this

He says plenty bad guys to go around but he thinks the media and west in general are myopic in their devotion to Kiev

There are indeed Ustachi types in the forces battling the separatists

And there are indeed Russians helping the separatists

And both do very bad things

Export all the beautiful Yuke women here and let them settle it


19 posted on 04/16/2015 9:47:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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“Ukraine is in a fight for its very life”

Invalid hysteria doesn’t change facts.
If it weren’t for the coup, we wouldn’t be talking about ANY of this, and there would still be a Ukrainian flag flying over Crimea.


20 posted on 04/16/2015 9:48:50 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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