Posted on 04/14/2015 11:06:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
Today, the Obama Administration announced that it had finalized its nuclear agreement with Iran and had agreed to sell the Iranian government a wide range of nuclear weapons and specific delivery systems with a range of less than eight hundred miles. The administration hailed the agreement as the best possible result available and challenged Republicans to develop a better alternative. In turn, the Ayatollah delivered a speech in Tehran explaining that the American Administration's announcement misstated the agreement and that the delivery systems promised had a range of seven thousand miles. Both parties have indicated that Iran's word is its bond, therefore, no inspections will be necessary. Finally, both the United States and Iran had agreed that for the next decade, neither country would sell nuclear weapons to any other nation. Iran has also committed not to exploit their having both nuclear weapons and attendant delivery systems to blackmail any of their neighbors.
The Administrations spokesman provided color on the underlying concept that the instantaneousness of Iran completing its goal of an offensive nuclear capability would prevent a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. The real and immediate threat of Iran having the ability to blow Egypt or Saudi Arabia off the face of the earth if they began developing or threatened to purchase nuclear weapons would likely be sufficient to limit additional nuclear development in the Middle East.
Of course, the above would be crazy. But is it crazier than the United States announcing a tentative prescriptive agreement with Iran that is significantly different than the tentative prescriptive agreement announced by Iran?
The answer to the above question is yes; there is something crazier than the two parties sitting at the negotiating table and subsequently releasing completely different explanations of the crucial parts of the negotiation results. What is crazier is the position of the Administration with respect to the United States Senate and their role with respect to treaties.
The three key positions from the Administration are: (1) Should Congress approve a bill that provides that an Iranian agreement needs Senate approval, the President will veto the bill, (2) Congressional members should hold their fire and not discuss the negotiations until they are complete and (3) that it was inappropriate for Members of Congress to question the actions of the Secretary of State even if his comments regarding the state of negotiations are not consistent with the comments of the Iranian representatives.
As the negotiations with Iran have progressed and Mr. Kerry has retreated from the Presidents positions regarding what conditions the United States would demand before an agreement could be reached with Iran, the Administration has become more strident in the view that the United States Senate should effectively butt out of any commentary on the negotiations and that the only time the United States Senate should have any discussions on the actions of the Administration is if the Administration enters into a treaty and the Administration gets to redefine the word treaty.
The administration seems to believe that any document must be entitled a treaty before the United States Senate is allowed to act under the Constitution. This is simply not the case. One need only ask why NAFTA is a treaty as there is no word treaty in the title. Using Wikipedia, A treaty is an agreement under international law entered into by actors in international law, namely sovereign states and international organizations. A treaty may also be known as an (international) agreement, protocol, covenant, convention, pact, or exchange of letters, among other terms.
Congress must speak out; Congress must vote on approval or disapproval on any nuclear agreement with any nation. Otherwise, the Senators, one and all, may as well just return to their home states and find something useful to do. And it would be equally appropriate for every presidential candidate, including anyone who announced their candidacy over the weekend on Facebook, to unequivocally endorse the necessity of the United States Senate weighing in with respect to treaties as required under the Constitution of the United States.
At least a couple weeks ago, Mark Levin said the Senate should go ahead and vote on it.
The Senate is not required to wait for the President to submit it for ratification. If the Senate has the "agreement" (treaty) text, it should take a vote.
Now, the leader of the free world is passing the already made equipment with nary a complaint.
Is the Senate snoozing or toking? Or has someone successfully compromised them?
ping to article
This entire Corker/Obama scheme is jarring in its assault on the US Constitution.
We do NOT have a king.
“Without Senate Approval There Are No Treaties”
Well...I’m glad THAT’S finally settled
yep, and the SOP John Kerry, who spent so many years there, is trying to rewrite the US Constitution by saying they cannot.
Presidents have evaded this provision in past by insisting that treaties actually weren’t treaties, but were “sub-treaty agreements”, or other such hogwash. This is based on the idea that once a treaty has been made, minor modifications can be made without requiring senate approval.
Be that as it may, if we get a conservative president in the future, there are a lot of non-treaty treaties that he will need to abrogate, or at least submit to the senate on the assumption that the senate will reject them.
Are you saying Corker should do nothing?
“had agreed to sell the Iranian government a wide range of nuclear weapons and specific delivery systems”
Seriously? I had not heard or seen this.
Kerry’s favorite pastime is selling out America. Hussein’s favorite pastime is selling out America and its ally, Israel.
I’m saying Corker isn’t explaining the real problem. Why exactly do we need a bill saying the president needs to submit a treaty to the Senate? The Constitution already says the president MUST submit a treaty for Senate approval.
If Corker’s bill doesn’t pass, does that mean the president gets to ignore the constitution and NOT submit this treaty to the Senate?
This is screwed up beyond belief. Don’t these guys have a clue what the Constitution says???
THAT PORTION of the article was exceedingly “sarcastic” in fact parodying obies desires .
it caught me way off guard for the first moment
He can say it until he is blue in the face. The only way Congress can exert any actual power is to legislate.
In this instance no treaty can be made without 2/3 approval from the Senate. This is the one instance wherein the president puts together the legal document and the Senate gets to veto it or approve it.
I know that. Obama refuses. What then? I can see a road to impeachment coming out of this. (But, I do have a vivid imagination.)
Congress should pass a resolution, not a bill.
No, we do not have a king. We have a tyrant.
It’s crazy, Don-o
Is a resolution better or worse or about the same as a strernly worded letter?
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