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Republicans Expect Long, Expensive Presidential Battle - no heir apparent
Houston Mirror ^ | March 28, 2015 | VoA

Posted on 03/28/2015 2:45:54 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON - Senator Ted Cruz of Texas kicked off in recent days what is likely to be the longest, most expensive and perhaps most contentious Republican Party presidential battle in history.

Cruz has been lagging in the national polls and hoped that his early announcement would give him some momentum as conservative activists around the country begin to focus on the fight for the Republican Party's presidential nomination in 2016.

Cruz hopes to build on his support among Tea Party supporters and expand his appeal to evangelical Christian voters, hence his decision to announce on the campus of the nation's largest Christian college, Liberty University in Virginia.

"What I am so encouraged by is the enthusiasm that we are seeing, particularly in the early primary states, in Iowa, in New Hampshire and in South Carolina," Cruz told ABC News. "People are hungry for someone who will stand up and fight alongside them."

Whether Cruz's early announcement will boost him from his low position in the polls remains to be seen.

The 2016 field promises to be among the most crowded in recent history. But one thing is certain - Cruz is not easily deterred from his ambitions. Cruz was born in Canada but since his mother was an American citizen he is eligible to run for president.

In a recent profile in The Washington Post, Cruz told friends that he began looking at his own presidential eligibility when he was a child.

The Cruz announcement signals the beginning of an intense period of activity as other candidates prepare to jump into the race while others still pondering a run for the White House assess levels of support and their ability to raise funds.

Former Florida governor Jeb Bush is at or near the top of most polls among the Republican contenders. But Bush told voters in Georgia he's aware he will have to overcome the doubts of conservative activists.

"I'm the most conservative governor in Florida's history," he said. "I cut taxes every year."

Republican strategist Ford O'Connell worked on the 2008 McCain-Palin campaign. He picked Bush, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker and Florida Senator Marco Rubio as the top Republican contenders so far who will appeal to Republican primary voters.

"They are looking for three things," he said. "They want someone who can win the White House in 2016. They want a strong leader and they want someone who is going to do what they say they are going to do and not just sell campaign rhetoric to win the nomination."

Bush is a favorite of the party's establishment wing while Cruz wants to become the champion of Tea Party activists and social conservatives.

O'Connell said the various Republican contenders will be looking to appeal to various groups with the Republican Party who play key roles in the nominating process.

"It is a very complicated mosaic," he said. "We have four main types of voters. There are the moderate or establishment voters, which are about 40 to 45 percent of the party. We have what are known as grass roots conservatives or the media likes to call them Tea Party. They are about 20 to 25 percent of the party.

"We have social conservatives, which are about 18 to 20 percent of the party," O'Connell said. "They are strongly against abortion and they are strongly against gay marriage. And then we have this libertarian strain, which is about ten to 15 percent of the party and they just don't like the government whatsoever."

A long campaign will test the ability of contenders to raise money, analysts say.

"There are more than 20 potential contenders, which makes it potentially the largest field in either party in modern times," said University of Virginia political expert Larry Sabato. "Now the truth is there isn't going to be enough money to support most of these candidates and so some of them just want to get on the debate stage to make their points or sell their books."

The 2016 Republican race could be the most exciting in decades according to Washington Post political reporter Dan Balz.

"Normally what you find in a Republican race and sometimes in a Democratic race is, if not an heir apparent, a pretty clear frontrunner," he said. "We don't have that in the Republican race so it is going to be a more interesting one than we have sometimes seen."

Republicans seem excited by their choices so far but already some conservative activists are talking about banding together with the aim of denying Bush the nomination because they see him as unacceptably moderate.

As for the eventual winner, political strategist O'Connell said it will be a test of who can put together the strongest coalition of the various conservative groups that make up the Republican Party.

"You have certain blocs of support depending on the candidate," he said. "The question is, can you broaden your appeal to all major swaths of the Republican Party and that is really going to be the key if you want to make this a two candidate race or actually win the nomination."


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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Religious Freedom bills making state rounds

The problem with bills circulating among the states is that the FED court can nullify them by claiming they are discriminatory. That is basically how gay marriage is happening -- one FED court, one FED judge at a time.


21 posted on 03/28/2015 3:28:21 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: okie01

The system is already gamed against conservatives.

First in the nation NH needs to be first in the nation Nebraska or something.


22 posted on 03/28/2015 3:30:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Cruz was born in Canada but since his mother was an American citizen he is eligible to run for president.

Uh oh! The Cruz birthers are incoming!


23 posted on 03/28/2015 3:32:34 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("God save America" - we are at the dawn of a new dark age)
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To: okie01

The problem at the outset is state debate stages with a dozen wannabes competing. They are lucky to get asked 2 to 3 questions due to time limitations. Debates really do not tell us much, except when the moderators are throwing the 'gotcha' questions.

The whole primaries debates system needs to be revamped.
24 posted on 03/28/2015 3:34:32 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Scott Walker can win. Scott !


25 posted on 03/28/2015 3:39:52 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: cripplecreek
First in the nation NH needs to be first in the nation Nebraska or something.

Now, that's a different solution that works...

26 posted on 03/28/2015 3:40:09 PM PDT by okie01
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To: TomGuy

That will have to happen early enough to deflate the GOP preferred candidate.


That is the only way to disrupt the RNC playbook that they have used to nominate McCain and Romney and will try to use to nominate Jebster.
Conservatives uniting behind ONE candidate early.
I choose Cruz.


27 posted on 03/28/2015 3:44:05 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: MeshugeMikey
they're scared half to death of Ted!!

The GOP establishment doesn't know what to make of a Ted Cruz candidacy. The conventional wisdom is that he doesn't have a chance in hell. And they're right. He doesn't.

Of course, the conventional wisdom in 2007 was that the junior senator from Illinois with the Muslim-sounding name running against Hillary Clinton didn't have a chance in hell either.

That's what scares them.

28 posted on 03/28/2015 3:51:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Do you think Walker can win his home state, Wisconsin? I have no idea. I know he has won the Governorship but a Presidential race is much different.


29 posted on 03/28/2015 3:53:28 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan! (Mrs. Yellowdoghunter))
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To: Drew68

I had missed that analogy....the two senators scenario,

Obie voterd present...

Ted had a filibuster that lasted nearly an entire day

theyd better to afraid!


30 posted on 03/28/2015 3:56:02 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Drew68

I would have bet a million right after 9-11 that next president after Bush’s name would not be HUSSEIN !


31 posted on 03/28/2015 4:01:01 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I would have bet a million right after 9-11 that next president after Bush’s name would not be HUSSEIN !

No kidding. In 2007 I was serving in the Navy with a guy who was born in Kenya. We were talking politics and he said he really liked Barack Obama. I laughed at him and said there was no way in hell that guy would ever get elected President.

32 posted on 03/28/2015 4:05:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: yellowdoghunter
Do you think Walker can win his home state, Wisconsin? I have no idea. I know he has won the Governorship but a Presidential race is much different.

The only game in town right now are the primaries and the biggest obstacle conservatives face is getting a remotely conservative candidate through an entrenched system that essentially lets blue states pick the winner.

Can Walker win Wisconsin? Who knows? Cruz will easily win Texas --if he's the nominee. But will he even win the Texas primary? Texas went for Romney last time around.

33 posted on 03/28/2015 4:28:09 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Lumper20; grania
I don’t conclude the same. I think Cruz attracts the Libertarians on the conservative side and that might be 5-6 % while Rand Paul gets the other 9-10%. We shall see as it is a ways off.

Cruz will take a heft share of the libertarians and most of the evangelicals and those concerned about constitutional governance, securing the border and the gay marriage issue.

Rand Paul is going to fade quickly, among others.
34 posted on 03/28/2015 4:40:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: TomGuy

You’re correct!

But note - the Left knows that the tide has shifted - that people are angry about Democrat overreach (their weaponization of goverment) and Americans are pushing back. They’ve already lost many state legislature and governor’s seats. Their strongholds in universities are under attack. Their union power is being disassembled. The Democratic Party is hoping a corrupt Hillary Clinton and her followers can save the presidency for them.

We shall see.


35 posted on 03/28/2015 4:44:17 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The MSM will stop shilling for the magic negro when he is gone. The MSM will finally start telling the public how bad things really are and the next President will get the blame.


36 posted on 03/28/2015 4:45:56 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Well... He’s done it multiple times already.


37 posted on 03/28/2015 7:53:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...what is likely to be the longest, most expensive and perhaps most contentious Republican Party presidential battle in history.

If so it will do severe harm to the prospects for the GOP in 2016. Nothing good has come from the wars of attrition waged on the primary trail the last two cycles.

I wonder if conservatives will get smart and not bleed each other this time around. I'm not betting the farm on that happening.

38 posted on 03/29/2015 6:04:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: yellowdoghunter

it’s icing on the cake if Walker could flip WI in 2016. one of the under reported stories in 2000 was the near certainly that WI was stolen from GWB. His margin of loss was less than blatantly fraudulent votes in milwaukee. but that got drowned out by the noise coming out of Florida.


39 posted on 03/29/2015 6:12:20 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I would have bet a million right after 9-11 that next president after Bush’s name would not be HUSSEIN !

Same here but seven years later it happened. America was traumatized by 9/11 and this was the compelling evidence. The fact is now beyond dispute: The War on Terror is over and the terrorists won, on the first day.

40 posted on 03/29/2015 6:16:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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