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Obama's "Free" Nuclear Weapon Gift to Iran : Can the U.S. Senate simply NOT RATIFY this Treaty ?
None | 2015-02-28 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 02/28/2015 6:58:27 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne

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2015-02-28


So the Obama Whitehouse and State Department are supposedly negotiating an agreement with Iran that allegedly gives Iran tacit U.S. approval to design, test and field a nuclear arsenal.

Who knows what other gifts-concessions Obama (the stealth Islamic iman) will attempt to give Iran via this agreement.



My question is: Doesn't the Constitution require that this agreement (treaty) be voted on and ratified (approved) by the U.S. Senate ?

If so, then it's politically simple work for the U.S. Senate to just say "hell no" to Emperor Obama.



Is this analysis correct ?

Comments are invited.



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1 posted on 02/28/2015 6:58:27 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

The US Constitution, according to the EXEMPT Congress,
does not apply to Moslem Indonesians who are impostor
pRes_ _ents if they help al Qaeda/NaziMoslemBrotherhood.

In that case, the EXEMPT Congress, grovels on its
knees for the impostor against the American People.


2 posted on 02/28/2015 7:01:27 PM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Last time I checked an agreement between two nations is a treaty


3 posted on 02/28/2015 7:04:42 PM PST by chemical_boy
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To: Patton@Bastogne

You are correct.

It is politically simple work for the U.S. Senate to just say “Hell NO” to Emperor Obama and Iran.

That is if enough Senators had the “Stones” to do it.


4 posted on 02/28/2015 7:04:52 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

It’s kinda cute that people still think the government operates this way.


5 posted on 02/28/2015 7:04:58 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

A small self-sustaining farm far from any city or military installation —with its own water supply and plenty of firewood.

Maybe a big solar panel to power a refrigerator and satellite internet.

Chickens. Goats. Maybe some horses too.

And large underground space where you and your livestock can shelter for about three months while the fallout is at its worst.

Have these and the future may hold hope.


6 posted on 02/28/2015 7:10:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There is very little the Senate can do to prevent POSOTUS from ignoring there is no treaty and treating it as if it were in force. i.e. the end of dayers get their means to make it happen.


7 posted on 02/28/2015 7:10:19 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: chemical_boy
Last time I checked an agreement between two nations is a treaty

That's the way things are supposed to work. But we no longer operate under the Rule of Law. I suspect that Obama will not call the agreement a Treaty. Instead he will call it a Memorandum of Understanding, or some such thing.

Who would do anything to stop that? Rush would complain, and that's about it.

8 posted on 02/28/2015 7:10:36 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

No way will any of Obama’s agreements with Iran be ratified by Congress


9 posted on 02/28/2015 7:10:44 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Leaning Right
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good point ...

but semantics aside, it doesn't matter how Obama describes this "agreement", MOU, "treaty" or gay molsem sex farce ... it's still a "Treaty" ...

and any future U.S. president can simply ignore what Obama attempted to Unconstitutionally force the U.S. to comply with ...


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10 posted on 02/28/2015 7:14:24 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

The treaty won’t be ratified. But O will order his agencies to behave as if the treaty was in force. Meaning, we will end sanctions. We will ignore their nuclear program. We will encourage them to be the “stabilizing” force in the middle east and south asia.

No one will stop him. Which means that no one will stop them.


11 posted on 02/28/2015 7:16:07 PM PST by marron
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Not satisified with ruining US law and order, Obama sets sights on international law.


12 posted on 02/28/2015 7:17:26 PM PST by chemical_boy
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Treaties aren’t ratified anymore. The president simply enters into an agreement and it is enforced by executive orders. Congress is irrelevant. Didn’t you get the memo?


13 posted on 02/28/2015 7:20:10 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Iran’s nuke buildup: the bipartisan political game of hot potato for decades. I posted hundreds of articles on Iran long ago and don’t forget the majority anti-defense responses.


14 posted on 02/28/2015 7:20:16 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: rdcbn
No way will any of Obama’s agreements with Iran be ratified by Congress

Do you think Obama cares? He's got a pen and a phone. Didn't you get the memo?

15 posted on 02/28/2015 7:21:30 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Obama has an 8 year waiver from the Constitution. Sorry.


16 posted on 02/28/2015 7:29:29 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Way back when, Russia, China and the UAE would have stood aside and out of the way.

Russia to be neutral in possible Iran-US armed conflict
Itar-Tass ^ | 19APR06 | Itar-Tass
Posted on 4/20/2006, 2:21:50 AM by familyop
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1618125/posts

Writing on the wall for Iran [Even the UAE and China agree.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1616282/posts

Chinese official holds nuclear talks with Iran - report
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2006/04/16/afx2672672.html

Not the case now with Russia and China.


17 posted on 02/28/2015 7:33:52 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Look at the dates.
Military action in Iran not in anyones interest, says Gates
02JUN07
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843874/posts

Commander’s veto sank Gulf buildup (Admiral Fallon opposes military move against Iran?)
17MAY07
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834992/posts

Top US War Boss: We Can’t Ignore Iran [No other way but “arrangement” with Iran.]
28MAY07
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840806/posts


18 posted on 02/28/2015 7:51:15 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
U.S. says talk of strike against Iran is nonsense
14SEP07
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1896222/posts

Shame!

Sarkozy talks of bombing if Iran gets nuclear arms
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887521/posts

French FM Kouchner: 'We must prepare for war against Iran'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1897458/posts

Shame!


19 posted on 02/28/2015 7:55:37 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

The Senate can refuse to ratify so that it doesn’t become US law. But it takes Obama to actually do something to stop Iran’s program. So the treaty can become null and void but Iran will still have 2 years to do whatever they want with no interference from Obama.


20 posted on 02/28/2015 7:59:01 PM PST by DannyTN
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