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WATCH: Iranian cruise missiles blow up life-size replica of American aircraft carrier
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 02/25/2015 | YASSER OKBI / MAARIV HASHAVUA

Posted on 02/25/2015 6:17:30 AM PST by Freeport

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Check the video out at the link.

My thoughts as a weapons guy:

1) The initial attack uses very slow sub-sonic weapons against an undefended stationary target.

2) The missile aim point is the stern of the target; a good tactic to disable the ship.

3) The missiles, at terminal, dive at the waterline. If they score a hit the exterior compartment would flood.

4) Since these are small explosive weapons, I doubt that they would penetrate to the drive systems. A ship architect needs to chime in on this one.

5) As to disabling an actively defended war ship... doubtful.

6) As to sinking said ship... maybe after about 50 hits.

7) As to good propaganda... meh.

1 posted on 02/25/2015 6:17:30 AM PST by Freeport
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To: Freeport
Obama will offer them a real CVN for a target soon enough. On a platter.


2 posted on 02/25/2015 6:20:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Freeport

I guess they are not worried about “offending us” during negotiations.


3 posted on 02/25/2015 6:20:51 AM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016 (for 16 years of conservative bliss))
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To: Freeport

I’d say that was a dumb waste of their time and money…except that during Bill Clinton’s attack on Serbia, they fooled our bombing with fake tanks etc., so maybe Iran will have a few tricks up their sleeves, too.


5 posted on 02/25/2015 6:22:46 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Freeport

It is one thing to blow up a model ship and another to blow up layered defenses of a fleet. A real fleet has weapons to counter crude Iranian missiles.


6 posted on 02/25/2015 6:24:58 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: Freeport

Its an interesting play but its laughable to think that they could get anywhere near a carrier on open water. Somebody needs to inform them that the Phalanx gun actually can hit waterborne targets.


7 posted on 02/25/2015 6:25:21 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: ConservativeInPA
Looks like amateur hour. Remember their joke of a flying boat?
8 posted on 02/25/2015 6:27:05 AM PST by petercooper ("How To Destroy The Country In 6 Short Years" by Barack Obama & the Democrats)
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To: rfreedom4u

And a Mk 48 ADCAP has a 650 pound warhead compared to 10 - 20 pounds for the Iranian missiles shown.

Yeah. Carriers are tough and a CIWS would make quick work out of everything in the video, but the subs, cruisers and destroyers in the battle group have big fangs.

The Air Force dumping an old Army Daisy Cutter on top of those fast attack ships would also put paid to that “swarm” attach.


9 posted on 02/25/2015 6:30:13 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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Why even go after a carrier. Sink a oil tanker or two there and the prices of oil would go insane.


10 posted on 02/25/2015 6:32:51 AM PST by McGruff (We are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq - Barack Obama 2011)
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To: Freeport; MeganC; Mr. K; ConservativeInPA; cripplecreek
1) The initial attack uses very slow sub-sonic weapons against an undefended stationary target.

U.S.S. Arizona

5) As to disabling an actively defended war ship... doubtful.

6) As to sinking said ship... maybe after about 50 hits.

If that is what it takes, than that is what it takes.

I.J.N. Yamato

Carries are NOT different from Battleships. The Carrier Boys think so, but they suffer from the exact same vulnerabilities as the Battleship did.

Its an interesting play but its laughable to think that they could get anywhere near a carrier on open water.

Prince of Wales and Repulse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse

Also, H.M.S. Sheffield


11 posted on 02/25/2015 6:33:04 AM PST by KC_Lion (The Issue is Not The Issue, The Issue is The Revolution.)
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To: Freeport

Life size? Not quite. 202 meters is only about 2/3 the length of a US CVA.


12 posted on 02/25/2015 6:35:05 AM PST by CPOSharky (I was born with nothing, and I still have most of it.)
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To: Freeport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmUfiPRrbMw

CIWS


13 posted on 02/25/2015 6:35:56 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Freeport

It is presumptuous and dangerous to dismiss the Iranian threat to the big blue water capital ships in the narrow confines of the Persian Gulf. An attack by speedboats or helicopters can probably be easily be repelled. However the real threat is the modern Chinese made shore to ship missiles with which the Iranians have fortified the Gulf. Those missiles will have a flight time of less than twenty seconds. It is no certain that the ship’s defensive systems can stop them all. The lives of more than ten thousand brave young sailors are at risk.
The pompous narcissists Obama and Kerry have acquiesced to the mad “death loving” mullahs of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. Netanyahu will do what he has to do. He does not have the luxury of embracing delusions. He is the secular leader and defender of the Jewish people. He is determined not to make the same tragic error the German Jewish leaders made in the 1920’s. Then they had the power and means to eliminate Hitler and his thugs. They did not. War with Iran is now a strategic necessity for Israel.
Obama should end the charade. There are many scenarios in which the US will become engaged willingly or unwillingly once the shooting starts. He ought to withdraw those ships from the Persian Gulf deathtrap. The US Navy faces a debacle worse than Pearl Harbor in less than fifteen minutes. Those brave young sailors should not become the victims of abysmal leadership and policies.


14 posted on 02/25/2015 6:36:07 AM PST by allendale
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Iran fired hundreds of missiles in a military drill on Wednesday....

...While ø and francois work to finalize their "deal" with these...people.

15 posted on 02/25/2015 6:36:30 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Freeport

a few phalanx ciws would take care of business


16 posted on 02/25/2015 6:37:11 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: CPOSharky

Not only that, but don’t you think that the mockup model was built out of wood ?


17 posted on 02/25/2015 6:38:23 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Freeport

When we were kids we would float our toy boats out onto the pond and shoot bottle rockets at them.

I don’t see much difference between that and what the silly camel-humpers are demonstrating in the their propaganda flick.


18 posted on 02/25/2015 6:39:10 AM PST by Augie
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To: McGruff

Agreed.

Sinking a carrier is about the only way the Iranians would get up close and personal with a US “Special” glow in the dark device.


19 posted on 02/25/2015 6:39:34 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: KC_Lion
Didn't we think the Japanese would never attack Pearl Harbor. That kind of thinking can get people killed.
20 posted on 02/25/2015 6:41:25 AM PST by McGruff (We are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq - Barack Obama 2011)
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