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DEA Planned to Track Cars Parked Near Gun Shows
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2015 | Michael Schaus

Posted on 01/29/2015 7:53:37 AM PST by Kaslin

Are you starting to forget just how creepy government agencies can be when they decide to spy on average (law abiding) citizens? Well, this should help refocus your distrust of big government. According to AP News:

The Drug Enforcement Administration abandoned an internal proposal to use surveillance cameras for photographing vehicle license plates near gun shows in the United States to investigate gun-trafficking, the agency's chief said Wednesday.

Um, good… Also: “What the heck?”

So the DEA was planning on tracking everyone that went to a gun show? Wow… Nothing like being innocent until proven guilty, right? It might be time to start borrowing your liberal neighbor’s car for your trip to the gun range, gun store, and gun show. (And, just for good measure, drop by a tea party protest while you’re out.)

Michelle Leonhart, the DEA Administrator, said in a statement, that the proposal never got past the planning stages, and was never implemented. Ostensibly, this little foray into monitoring “pre-crime” would have given authorities the ability to combat illegal arms trafficking in the US. I mean sure, the Department of Justice is likely responsible for more gun trafficking than any gun show in the last ten years, but the DEA wanted to spy on you because Bloomberg told them about that notorious “gun show” loophole.

Of course, the “gun show loophole” is more of a cute leftist talking point than an actual thing. Commercial sellers are required by law to run background checks on every sale… Including at gun shows. Many states even require that any sale (including private sales) be subjected to a background check if it originates at a gun show. And, given that less than one percent of federal criminals actually purchased their guns at a gun show (with a majority of those sales having passed a background check), who would the Feds have been tracking at these events?

Well… You. And the other law abiding citizens like you. Heck, why don’t they just have gun owners stand in lines to register their weapons so it’s easier to keep track of --- oh… Never mind.

In all fairness, it is somewhat unlikely the DEA was gearing up to create a de facto gun registration list based off of attendees to gun shows. After all, they already have the alphabet of surveillance agencies (NSA, DHS, BATFE, FBI and others) to help them out if they decide to scrounge together an un-official registry. But it does show the growing distrust that government agencies have of their own citizenry. Generally speaking, fighting crime should focus on harassing criminals; not average citizens.

The dirty little secret is that government knows it can’t regulate away criminal behavior. Heck, half the time they can’t even monitor it. I guess it’s just a whole lot easier to target people who legally exercise their Second Amendment rights by going to a gun show.

In the end, this proposal was just one more way government can collect data about its citizens. Big Government, just like big business, has discovered the value of Big Data. The NSA analyzing Facebook posts, the FBI retrieving information from Google, and Dodd Frank collecting a treasure trove of consumer spending habits, are all a part of the same game. Data collection – from Facebook posts to license plates in gun show parking lots – helps to influence the marketing of policy proposals. It directs the political “priorities” of government insiders. Just like a Google ad in Gmail, government can use its data to manipulate, regulate, and restrict the behavior of its citizens.

Ultimately, the DEA decided against stalking gun show attendees through their license plates. But, let not your heart be worried: The NSA already knows you clicked on this article.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; bigbrother; biggovernment; dea; gunrights; policestate; secondamendment; surveillance; wod
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To: Noumenon

Very good tagline, btw...


21 posted on 01/29/2015 8:37:31 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Kaslin
The War on Drugs and the War on Guns are fruits of the same poisoned tree: the view that adult citizens can't be trusted to make their own decisions regarding potentially hazardous goods so government must do it for them.
22 posted on 01/29/2015 8:40:59 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: GregoTX

I am not hard to track with the NRA sticker and the Virginia NRA plates.


23 posted on 01/29/2015 8:43:02 AM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: Salamander

Several years ago my wife dropped me off at the Tulsa Gun Show, one of the smaller ones.

The first thing I saw wrong was there was a KLINGON at the door people were entering in.

Then I realized the Tulsa Expo Center upper floor was having a STAR TREK convention and the gun show was on the lower floor.

Then there are all those people who go to the flea market in the same area, use the same parking spots.


24 posted on 01/29/2015 8:53:56 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ConservingFreedom

How right you are.

The Marihuana(sic) Tax Act of 1937 used a unique legal theory. Since Congress did not have the power to ban substances directly because of the 10th Amendment, they needed an indirect method of prohibition. They were inspired by the National Firearms Act of 1934, which effectively outlawed machine guns through the requirement of a “prohibitive” tax.


25 posted on 01/29/2015 9:37:59 AM PST by Wolfie
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26 posted on 01/29/2015 9:51:53 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Iron Munro

Under NSA rules, if you’re not a thought criminal, you’re a pre-criminal.

If you have never been arrested & charged in your life, you’re a pre-criminal.

Stalin is laughing in h***.


27 posted on 01/29/2015 9:53:31 AM PST by elcid1970 ("I: am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: jsanders2001
DEA,NSA,ATF,White House Muslim:


28 posted on 01/29/2015 10:00:45 AM PST by Stayfree
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To: Kaslin

How about tracking cars slowing down at drug dealer’s corners. No, that would be trying to prevent actual criminal activity. We don’t want to further “victimize” the “victims” of poverty. Plus, we might stumble over the famous and well-connected.

Let’s just persecute law-abiding conservatives who won’t bow down and do as we tell them.


29 posted on 01/29/2015 10:23:09 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Iron Munro

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30 posted on 01/29/2015 10:41:18 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

ALL of them?

Or just the ones with gun racks?

31 posted on 01/29/2015 10:47:17 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jsanders2001
The NSA already knows you clicked on this article.


32 posted on 01/29/2015 10:54:26 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

Ah, the DEA and BATFE! the two lowliest agencies full of derps that were rejected from the FBI.


33 posted on 01/29/2015 10:59:45 AM PST by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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To: Elsie

Who knows


34 posted on 01/29/2015 11:30:22 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Well… You. And the other law abiding citizens like you. Heck, why don’t they just have gun owners stand in lines to register their weapons so it’s easier to keep track of --- oh… Never mind.

Yeah, and they could tattoo a convenient little ID number on your forearm...

35 posted on 01/29/2015 11:31:44 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Iron Munro

At least it got never past the planning stages, provided that is true.


36 posted on 01/29/2015 11:34:39 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

“At least it got never past the planning stages, provided that is true.”

No, all you know is that they have DENIED implementing it! How often is what this administration says false? certainly over 50%! Meaning this is probably TRUE.


37 posted on 01/29/2015 12:15:33 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Kaslin

Even for something that doesn’t make it past the “planning” stage there will be a mountain of memos, emails and documentation of other communications by those involved.

The GOP Congress should subpoena those records, then make them public. Call those involved in the planning up before Congressional committee to explain themselves.

See how THEY like having their names revealed in the bright light of public disclosure. Set an example for others who may choose to go down similar routes.


38 posted on 01/29/2015 12:29:37 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Kaslin

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3251700/posts


39 posted on 01/29/2015 2:07:42 PM PST by upchuck (Entrenched incumbency is the disease. Fresh blood is the cure.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

LOL!
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40 posted on 01/30/2015 2:35:48 AM PST by Salamander (No more nights of blood and fire..)
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