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The Mac market just gets bigger and bigger
Apple Daily Report ^ | Wednesday, January 28, 2015 | Dennis Sellers

Posted on 01/28/2015 10:52:49 AM PST by Star Traveler

Forget the post-PC era. The Mac just continues to get bigger. For its fiscal 2015 first quarter that ended Dec. 27, 2014, Apple sold 5.5 million Macs. That’s up 9% year-over-year and up 14% from the previous quarter and brought in revenue of US$6.9 billion.

Apple has gained market share verses Windows PCs in all quarters since 2005 but one. The Mac has surpassed overall PC growth for 34 of the last 35 quarters.The Mac’s unit share of the worldwide PC market has grown from 2.1% in 2005 to 5.5% in 2013. Apple’s U.S. market share is somewhere between 10% and 14%, depending on whose statistics you believe.

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To: Not gonna take it anymore

“I hate, hate, hate Windows 8.1. “

Why?

It works fine for me.


161 posted on 01/29/2015 9:13:47 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Smedley

Testify.


162 posted on 01/29/2015 9:38:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: palmer

I probably should have proof read my long rambling post and got rid of about 75% of it. You summarized what I was trying to say very effectively with much fewer words. If your goal is to accomplish something productive the operating system is almost irrelevant much of the time.

Various operating systems have personality traits which makes them distinct from the others. But to me they are still a lot like automobiles. Most of them are fairly dependable and in general get you where you want to go in approximately the same amount of time.

I really only notice when something I am used to using is changed in an irritating way. For example, I believe it was when Android went from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich the way external storage was used got mucked up. I understand the reasons why this happened but years later it still takes a work-around in many applications to keep them from using up your internal storage space. Even if you have your Android device rooted it is still fairly complicated to repartition your internal storage space, which would be an easy fix for many devices.

Last year I gave my dad a new Windows 8.1 laptop because his Windows XP laptop is starting to fall apart. I understand why Microsoft wanted to update the looks of Windows 8.1 but now when my elderly parents call for computer advice it is generally about something that was changed that was working fine to begin with. Before I gave the computer to him I made every effort to set it up so that it acted as much like his Windows XP laptop as possible. But there are still a few changes that were made that throw him off. He still ends up using his failing Windows XP laptop about half of the time because he is more comfortable with it.

So I did it again and started ranting about off topic stuff... sorry.


163 posted on 01/29/2015 9:49:10 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: circlecity
Nonsense. Had I been warned as to the result of upgrading the OS I wouldn't have done it and “Moore's Law” would not have effected me at all.

After I use recovery discs or a recovery partition to get a computer back to its original configuration the very first thing I do before going online with it... is turn off all auto-updating. Then I go through and remove all of the bloatware that came installed by the manufacturer. In the good old days it was primarily users who were the ones responsible for installing crap that slowed down their machines... these days the manufacturers and software companies do it for us.

164 posted on 01/29/2015 10:06:05 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15
"After I use recovery discs or a recovery partition to get a computer back to its original configuration the very first thing I do before going online with it... is turn off all auto-updating."

Unfortunately I see no way to keep these IOS "upgrades" from being pushed onto the ipad nor can I figure out how to delete this 2.5 gig file withouot installinlg it. So, if you don't want to upgrade you essentially lose a major portion of your hard drive to this massive file you don't intend to install.

165 posted on 01/29/2015 10:13:30 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Begin

I am so stealing the graphic for future use!


166 posted on 01/29/2015 10:34:23 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: circlecity

I am sorry that it is difficult to figure out how not to take that IOS update and get the space back. I would think that one of our local Apple experts could shed some light on the subject. Android and Microsoft have similar issues, but I know how to disable these from being downloaded.

I have no experience with Apple products since the very early Macs... I purchased a flatbed scanner which came with Photoshop 2.5 in 1993. At that time digital cameras still had very limited resolution and were very expensive. My best friend purchased a similar package for his Mac. He was quite sure that since Photoshop was originally for Macs only... that his system would be superior to mine for photo-editing. After spending considerable time with each system even he had to admit that my system was far more capable than his. We went through similar iterations when we got into video editing.

I do not like being forced into “rooting” Android devices with the connotation that we are doing something wrong that may void our warranties. The fact that Apple is even more restrictive about letting users control the nuts and bolts of their system is a great turn off for me. It reminds me a lot of strong central government control. The feel the first Macintosh TV ad ”Why 1984 Won’t Be Like 1984” was one of the misleading commercials of all time. You can watch it on YouTube. Apple has always maintained strict central control of its product lines.


167 posted on 01/29/2015 11:28:36 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

No problem. Once again I agree. There’s probably a point in development where an OS will be about as good as it can get. The OS company then makes it worse for good and bad reasons. Sometimes the reason is good, new HW support or something like that. Other times, they change for the sake of change, or to follow some pointless fad.


168 posted on 01/29/2015 12:20:03 PM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Apple and Microsoft have been playing that game since they started in the biz.

Shows you don't know what you're talking about. Most Apple OS X updates and upgrades have almost always resulted in the systems operating noticeably faster then they did before the update or upgrade. That is a fact.

169 posted on 01/29/2015 5:31:15 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: circlecity
Unfortunately I see no way to keep these IOS "upgrades" from being pushed onto the ipad nor can I figure out how to delete this 2.5 gig file withouot installinlg it. So, if you don't want to upgrade you essentially lose a major portion of your hard drive to this massive file you don't intend to install.

They are not "pushed onto the iPad" until you select to download them. You are wrong about that. They only come onto your iPad when you select to upgrade iOS. YOUR CHOICE, not Apple's. You never have to upgrade your iPad.

170 posted on 01/29/2015 6:02:21 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: doorgunner69
I am so stealing the graphic for future use!

of course you will. . . you are one of the sufferers of MAPS.

Swordmaker's and Kathy's proposed diagnosis for the new ICD-10 addenda:

90210 iOS Munchausen's Apple-Plexy Syndrome (MAPS), The overwhelming compulsion to post negative, judgmental, aggressive, and false commentary on any website thread related to Apple products wherever found, including phobic reaction to projected Apple user euphoria. First and subsequent encounters.

You are filled with anti-Apple fear and loathing.

Get help.

171 posted on 01/29/2015 6:10:55 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Star Traveler; Swordmaker

What part of those sales are to school systems?


172 posted on 01/29/2015 7:03:50 PM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Swordmaker
"Shows you don't know what you're talking about. Most Apple OS X updates and upgrades have almost always resulted in the systems operating noticeably faster then they did before the update or upgrade. That is a fact."

Ahh I see so then the first edition of the iPad runs the present version of the Apple OS just fine?

Or did Apple’s iOS 6 update (which IIRC is a few versions prior to today's present version) leave the original iPad out in the cold.

From Macworld: When a new version iOS is launched, promising exciting new features and a polished (or entirely revamped) interface, many Apple fans on slightly older devices are forced to make a hard decision: abandon their cherished old iPhone or iPad - which may get an incomplete feature set, run slower or fail to run the new iOS at all - or miss out on the new iOS update.

The term is planned obsolescence and Apple has been doing it from the getgo.

Apple works just as hard as Microsoft to try and force new sales by making the new OS not compatible with the older devices. The only difference is Apple charges more.

173 posted on 01/29/2015 7:36:52 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: raybbr
What part of those sales are to school systems?

Perhaps a few tens of thousands.

174 posted on 01/29/2015 7:45:36 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Ahh I see so then the first edition of the iPad runs the present version of the Apple OS just fine?

What does an iOS update that cannot support the older hardware anymore have to do with what I posted about OS X? NOT A THING. What you are doing is called a straw man argument, Mad Dawgg. It is a logical fallacy and inappropriate debating procedure. Again you show you have no clue about Apple products. Why not go read some other threads?

The reason Apple did not allow the new iOS to be loaded on the oldest iPad was because it simply did NOT HAVE THE HARDWARE TO HANDLE THE NEW iOS. Do you want them to load the OS and have it crash???? Not me.

It is called PROGRESS, Mad Dawgg, something you of which you apparently don't have any understanding. Apple adds new functionality to the product that was not foreseen when the first model came out in 2010. It's FIVE YEARS LATER and a lot of new things have been added to the operation of the iPad and the iPhone. So it requires new things in iOS that are completely unsupported in the older models.

My original iPad is doing quite fine in the hands of one of my daughters, thank you. It just doesn't run the latest iOS. SO WHAT? It works fine for an almost FIVE YEAR OLD piece of equipment. Samsung's orignal tablets could not even be upgraded to the latest Android OS. . . and most Android phones cannot be upgraded at all. . . so QUIT your BELLYACHING about something you know nothing about. . . You don't use this hardware, so WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT? The world and technology moves on. I am not offended by it, why are you?

175 posted on 01/29/2015 8:08:22 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
"What does an iOS update that cannot support the older hardware anymore have to do with what I posted about OS X? NOT A THING. What you are doing is called a straw man argument"

Oh OK so when I pointed out that Apple uses planned obsolescence when they update their software to a point it won't work on their older devices and you say their updates make the newer items faster (hahahaha) then that would be a straw man argument to.

And then when you consider my first point and rebuttal to your lame try to hide Apple's nefarious fleecing as (hahaha) improving the situation, it was not I at all who was engaging in straw man but instead me trying to drag you back to the issue that you are trying to cover up.

And of course that makes you wrong yet again... (which for me is the best part)

Bottom line Apple's entire market plan is to sell Applebots iGadgets then make those gadgets obsolete tech in 4 yrs or so, sooner if they can get away with it, so the Applebots will need buy more.

And that makes apple like all the other computer tech companies.

176 posted on 01/30/2015 6:15:58 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: deadrock

IT has been interesting watching MS and their OS (Windows) evolutionary steps... IT is almost as if MS releases alternating OS version - a pretty bad one, then one that is fairly solid, then a bad one, then one that is fairly solid -

Many recall Windows 98 - that after several years finally was solid enough to be usable, even to this Apple-user. Of course, by the time ‘98 was in its 2nd + major update, ME was released, targeted at consumers - a genuine pile of stinking dung that never caught on (soundly rejected both because 98 had finally gotten solid enough, and ME was a disaster). Add to it the Windows 2000 release - geared towards professional/business use which was only marginally better than ME... Businesses stuck with Win98 and NT, waiting for something compelling to push an upgrade...

Then VISTA happened - yet another pile of dung - an attempt at merging consumer and Commercial OS, but with a pricing and version structure complicated enough to cause much groaning and consternation - and even after several updates, VISTA remained pretty bad, really a “beta” for the next MS OS that didn’t stink so bad - Windows 7.

Windows 7 was what VISTA “should” have been, had MS not been all about a rollout schedule - and forced upgrading efforts. Windows 7 was exponentially better out of the box than VISTA was after several years of use and updates.

Then Windows 8... An attempt (failed) to merge Windows Mobile and the desktop OS. It tries to do too much. Will Windows 8 ever amount to a “worthwhile” OS? Doubtful, particularly with Microsoft’s focus now being on Windows 10.

I have Windows 10 developer release installed in a VM environment on my MacBook Pro. So far, it seems to be better than Windows 8 (even though it still is very beta-like). It may be, for those who just insist on staying with the MS operating system family) an ok upgrade.

This all being said - Apple hasn’t exactly been firing on all cylinders for the last couple of years. Some serious backside issues have really irritated users (myself included), with some rather large bugs that they seem either unable or slow to address. I suspect this is in part due to Apple’s desire to merge (at least to some degree) the iOS word and OS X. I pray they don’t make the same mistakes Microsoft has made in this attempt.

Yet for all the hiccups I have experienced in the last couple of years with OS X, it has still been infinitely less frustrating than ANY Windows version I have ever had to use.


177 posted on 01/30/2015 8:15:34 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Chickensoup

That isn’t quite so much the case any longer - a couple of decades ago - a school computer lab (if they school had one), likely had a room full of Apples of some variety. Apple was offering fairly “sweet” deals to schools (and they machines were just easier to set up as a lab at the time). But as time has passed, and cut-throat, commodity computer pricing wooed education dollars, Windows-based labs have taken he majority of such computer spaces in public schools. Add to it the initiatives by Gates and others to tuff even more MS devices into schools and Apple has lost its sales edge in education.

I would venture the associated Apple hardware (iPods/iPhones) have fed the growth as much as anything (that and frustration by many with Windows + associated malware and issues).


178 posted on 01/30/2015 8:22:23 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Westbrook
Unlike every other OS supplier, they still do not allow their OS to be installed on any hardware, virtual or bare metal, but their own. And they will come after you with a phalanx of legal luminaries if they think you’ve attempted such.

While it is a violation of the EULA for Apple's OS to install it on anything but Apple hardware, I dare you to identify a single person ever receiving such a "phalanx" from Apple... just one.

Yes - You may very well find a business, selling unauthorized clones, running cobbled/hacked versions of the OS being slammed by the Apple Attorney Army - but an individual, building their own and installing OS X? Again - please show some examples... or just one.

179 posted on 01/30/2015 8:25:11 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman

So where can you obtain a legit copy of the Apple OS?

AFAIK, you can only obtain it for legit Apple hardware.

That means you cannot do development for Apple without Apple hardware. I don’t consider that to be a developer friendly environment.

I can do windows development on a Linux box, and vice versa.

I can even do Linux and Windows development on an Apple box, but Apple does not allow development of software for Apple targets on anything but Apple hardware.

I find that disagreeable to the point where I shun Apple products, regardless of how nice their products are, or that they are based on BSD Unix, which makes for a familiar development environment for Linux weenies like me. Their products are pricey, anyway.


180 posted on 01/30/2015 10:53:32 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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