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Donald Trump says Ted Cruz’s Canadian birth “could be a difficult problem” for 2016 bid
The Dallas Morning News ^ | January 23, 2015 | Todd J. Gillman

Posted on 01/23/2015 7:32:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: HMS Surprise

Natural born citizenship means entitled to the privileges of citizenship by circumstances of birth (as opposed to a pledge, which is called being “naturalized.”)

If the possibly after-the-fact Hawaiian birth record of Barack Obama counts, then Cruz’s circumstances certainly count.


41 posted on 01/24/2015 3:22:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Nice try, but your own country can make anyone a citizen by statute. For instance, Congress COULD pass a law that confers citizenship on all French citizens born on a plane en route to the U.S. It’s an extreme example to prove this point: Citizens can obtain their citizenship based o. Statute, or based on DEFINITION. ALL that matters with regard to the term “natural born” is WHAT DID THAT PHRASE MEAN WHEN IT WAS USED AT THE TIME THE CONSTITUTION WAS ADOPTED.


42 posted on 01/24/2015 3:31:26 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise

In a day when the Constitution is expected to be read through modern mores, that horse has fled the barn. There isn’t any “God” here to insist on a perpetual unchanged covenant. This is an agreement among men.

If Barack’s purported Hawaiian birth citizenship could fly (in spite of the loose way Hawaii did it at the time, which could be after the fact) then Cruz is in the side pocket and no law needs changing to make it so. It was so when he was born.


43 posted on 01/24/2015 3:36:11 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HMS Surprise

Meaning, that God is not called as a party to the agreement.


44 posted on 01/24/2015 3:39:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if known presidential scholar Donal Trump says it....


45 posted on 01/24/2015 3:59:13 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Impy

Attention addict


46 posted on 01/24/2015 4:02:08 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: stilloftyhenight

Too bad he IS qualified, Donald. Now quit dividing the vote and put some of that cash behind him.

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Donald: But then I won’t get all of this attention and be asked to phone in to FOX NEWS to give one of my many interviews.


47 posted on 01/24/2015 4:05:18 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: cripplecreek

Bet they pull out all the stops on Cruz but the traitor we have now is free to roam and how dare you accuse!


48 posted on 01/24/2015 4:13:10 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK so now Trump will round up that crack team of investigators that he recruited and sent to Hawaii to get the truth on Obama and send them to Alberta to dig up stuff on Cruz?


49 posted on 01/24/2015 4:20:01 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: jospehm20
Cruz is at least as qualified as Obola is.

Cruz is qualified by any legal standard you care to bring up.

50 posted on 01/24/2015 4:23:03 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Naturalization Act of 1790 probably constitutes the most significant evidence available. Congress enacted this legislation just three years after the drafting of the Constitution, and many of those who voted on it had participated in the Constitutional Convention. The act provided that “children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens.” - Professor Sarah Helene Duggin

Remember McCain? ...the Senate passed a resolution declaring that “John Sidney McCain, III, is a ‘natural born Citizen” under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”

51 posted on 01/24/2015 4:34:42 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Bookmarking


52 posted on 01/24/2015 4:52:37 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have trouble buying anything from a guy who dyes his hair with Tang.


53 posted on 01/24/2015 5:23:55 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You no longer have to be an American citizen to be President, OBAMA proved that that twice.


54 posted on 01/24/2015 5:40:29 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: Arthur McGowan

The only time “natural born citizen” is used in the Constitution is regarding qualifications for being president. Now, when I was in school, long before this issue ever came up, the teacher said that “natural born” meant both parents were citizens. I would bet that there are old history textbooks around that would say that.


55 posted on 01/24/2015 6:22:12 AM PST by odawg
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You could not be more wrong. Sorry.


56 posted on 01/24/2015 6:55:55 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: DoodleDawg

At least, being born in Canada is more than we know about where odumbo was hatched. Odumbo has established “past practice”.


57 posted on 01/24/2015 6:58:46 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, it was so when he was born because of laws passes by Congress to confer basic citizenship. But Ted Cruz is NOT a natural born citizen by DEFINITION. Either the Constitution matters, or it does not. Choose wisely which side you cling to. Don’t bitch to me about Obama’s executive orders anymore.


58 posted on 01/24/2015 7:01:04 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: odawg
Now, when I was in school, long before this issue ever came up, the teacher said that “natural born” meant both parents were citizens.

Many of us were taught the same. Unfortunately, government has so managed to blur the lines between the Laws of Nature and the laws of Man that it apparently only takes one natural parent to make a fully natural-born citizen child nowadays.

Go figure.

59 posted on 01/24/2015 7:01:48 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Congress cannot change the definition of a word. All that matters with respect to qualifications to be President is: WHAT DID NATURAL BORN MEAN WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS ADOPTED?! Omg people . . We’re suppose to be the smart ones...


60 posted on 01/24/2015 7:05:53 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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