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New GOP Border Security Bill Removes Border Fences
Daily Caller ^ | 01/21/2015 | Neil Munro

Posted on 01/21/2015 3:43:04 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009

New GOP Border Security Bill Removes Border Fences The new border bills drafted by Republican leaders require the actual removal of at least 66 miles of weak border fencing between Mexico and the United States.

The border bills also only require for the construction of 27 miles of effective double-layer fencing along the 2,000-mile border.

“It is a remarkable that the direction of our progress is going backwards, from a goal of building 700 miles of double-layer border fencing [in 2006] to only 27 miles [in 2015],” said a Hill staffer who opposes the leaders’ bills.

“Where the double-layer fence has been put in, it has worked spectacularly. The public is with us 80, 90 percent on this issue,” he added.

Extra fencing would be a waste of money, according to Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

“The bill matches resources to needs, putting 27 more miles of fencing where fencing is needed, and technology where technology is needed,” said the statement.

“In our conversations with outside groups, experts and stakeholders, we learned that it would be an inefficient use of taxpayer money to complete the fence. … We are using that money to utilize other technology to create a secure border,” said the statement.

A House staffer said the McCaul’s bill doesn’t require a major fence because of advocacy by Heritage and Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform.

Dan Holler, communications director for Heritage Action for America, told The Daily Caller that Heritage did not recommend against fencing.

ATR has joined with wealthy advocates — such as former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg — to call for increased use of foreign workers and residency for illegal immigrants.

Senate committee staffers declined to offer any reassurances that Senators would modify the bill to fund more fencing and to block Obama’s catch-and-release policy, prior to a Senate vote in a few weeks.

“We’re going to be looking at everything,” said a committee staffer. “We can’t give any detail beyond that.”

The Senate bill is co-sponsored by Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, who co-sponsored the Senate’s 2013 immigration bill.

“We introduced the McCaul [House] bill [in the Senate] as is and plan to update and improve it as we study the issue through [House] briefings and hearings,” said the staffer, who works for the Senate’s homeland security committee. The committee is chaired by Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson.

The public strongly supports a border fence. An April 2013 poll by Rasmussen shows “that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters think the United States should continue building a border fence, while 29% disagree.” Support for the fence is much higher among the GOP-leaning voters that provided the votes for the GOP victory in November.

A 2006 law required the construction of 700 miles of double-layer fencing along the 2,000 mile border. However, Congress quietly modified the bill in 2008 to allow the construction of simple, ineffective fences in place of the required double-layer fencing.

Officials claim that just over 600 miles of the border now have obstructions, including barriers. But those barriers include lines of bollards to stop vehicles, plus single-layer “landing mat fencing” and only 36.5 miles of double-layer fencing.

The leaders’ bills call for the replacement of anti-pedestrian mat fences by anti-vehicle bollards.

The bollards will allow migrants to be driven up to the border, and then walked over to a pick-up vehicle on the U.S. side.

“Not later than 18 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall replace, at a minimum, each of the following: (A) Thirty-one miles of landing mat fencing with bollard style fencing in the Border Patrol’s San Diego sector. (B) Five miles of landing mat fencing with bollard style fencing in the Border Patrol’s El Centro sector. (C) Three miles of landing mat fencing with bollard style fencing in the Border Patrol’s Yuma sector. (D) Twenty-five miles of landing mat fencing with bollard style fencing in the Border Patrol’s Tucson sector. (E) Two miles of landing mat fencing with bollard style fencing in the Border Patrol’s El Paso sector,” says a section on page 12 of the House bill, HR 399.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 114th; aliens; amnesty; border; borderfence; borderinsecurity; bordersecurity; fences; gop; security; uniparty
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Why do we even bother pretending to have borders? We don’t defend them to any real effect.

I’ve said it before... when it comes to the border, no elected official is to be trusted. Not a single one... they’re all for sale.


21 posted on 01/21/2015 4:22:14 PM PST by ScottinVA (Communism, liberalism and Islam: Kindred ideologies dedicated to America's destruction.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Hey Norm.

LOL. Now is not the time to fight. In fact, it’s never the right time for the
GOP to fight. We must support the lessor of two evils in 2016.


22 posted on 01/21/2015 4:23:02 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: All

And we are surprised by this because...???


23 posted on 01/21/2015 4:23:44 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“I was being sarcastic.”

Ahhhh got it. Kind like “boy we will really get him after we control congress”... Or the next budget we will cut cost ... or.....


24 posted on 01/21/2015 4:24:59 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: tennmountainman

of course pertinent is the definition of evil

broadening it to the point of absurdity is intellectual dishonesty a la ISIS


25 posted on 01/21/2015 4:25:58 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

At this point I don’t care anymore. We need someplace to escape from Obama’s impending full-blown dictatorship.


26 posted on 01/21/2015 4:27:14 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Lazamataz

Understand, that lesser-of-two-evil hold-your-nose election voting has been for me and many, a matter of pragmatic compromise.
I did not entirely agree with or appreciate your take and other skeptic’s warning until now.
The country has absolutely been betrayed.
See my tagline.
Something has to be done as border security, amnesty, obolacare, nat’l debt, personal privacy legislation is up for action.
We are at a point of no return or recovery.


27 posted on 01/21/2015 4:27:56 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
said a Hill staffer who opposes the leaders’ bills.

That's a nice start (i.e. a heads up) but until you can present an article with an actual named opponent of the bill stating facts about the bill, you got nothing, Just innuendo.

28 posted on 01/21/2015 4:29:34 PM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
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29 posted on 01/21/2015 4:31:35 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Anyone really surprised?


30 posted on 01/21/2015 4:33:06 PM PST by GeronL
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To: tennmountainman; Breto

Well of course! Because it’s purely patriotic to vote for people against everything conservatives believe in!

See, here’s my reasoning. The “D” is on which side of the alphabet? The left. The “R” is on which side? The right.

So even if the candidate the GOP pushes is a screaming leftist with a record of pushing the gay agenda, abortion and hating Reagan (Hi Mitt!!!) He is STILL further to the right than the dem because of alphabetical location alone.

And if you disagree, you hate America and love obama ;)


31 posted on 01/21/2015 4:33:33 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: GeronL

Yes. All the Flagladys, Whats ups, Logical Me’s and Lakesharks that pushed ‘no matter what crap till their fingers bled.

Then again, that assumes facts not in evidence like them being simply idiots instead of paid plants.


32 posted on 01/21/2015 4:35:21 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: tennmountainman

Although fences are nice, the first rule of border security is to have armed men posted. Fences, walls, moats, minefields, and high tech surveillance are all useless without men on the ground. Wouldn’t take much more than two or three brigades of the regular Army, but that would be too sensible for DC!


33 posted on 01/21/2015 4:36:10 PM PST by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

bump


34 posted on 01/21/2015 4:38:40 PM PST by GeronL
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To: palmer

RE:
“said a Hill staffer who opposes the leaders’ bills.

That’s a nice start (i.e. a heads up) but until you can present an article with an actual named opponent of the bill stating facts about the bill, you got nothing, Just innuendo”

Do statements from the bill’s supporters warrant concern?
“Extra fencing would be a waste of money, according to Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

“The bill matches resources to needs, putting 27 more miles of fencing where fencing is needed, and technology where technology is needed,” said the statement.

“In our conversations with outside groups, experts and stakeholders, we learned that it would be an inefficient use of taxpayer money to complete the fence. … We are using that money to utilize other technology to create a secure border,” said the statement.”


35 posted on 01/21/2015 4:38:44 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
The GOP has sunk so low even the GOP- Loyal Party Bots can't defend it any more. Time to withdraw all votes and defund all donations. A new third party is needed minus tyrants like GOP-E/Dem groups of eights etc. The GOP is indeed now pretty much as big a bunch of tyrants as the DEMs are. BUILD A WALL not a fence.

Very few are even POTUS worthy. Cruz maybe Palin if she ever got serious about it, Lee, and Jeff Sessions. The rest the media has mentioned forget it.

36 posted on 01/21/2015 4:38:47 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: tennmountainman
How do you have border control without fences?

Actually, most borders on the globe are marked by rivers and mountain crests -- and are without fences.

So far as the Rio Grande border is concerned, we can go to school on the nation that absolutely has to have a secure border: Israel.

Their border with Jordan is the Jordan River. And there is no fence. Instead, there are advanced observation posts, technological listening posts and a highly mobile border force.

This approach allows the farmers on both sides of the river access to its waters, while maintaining security.

37 posted on 01/21/2015 4:39:07 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTEAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Lazamataz
See my tagline.
There's not even a dimes worth of difference anymore. Zero difference.

To the GOP loyalists that scream, “But you HAVE to vote for X, or Y will get in!”....

.....My response is always, “Yes! Because it is MUCH better that X approves illegal amnesty, bans guns, votes for socialism, adopts fringe Greenie positions, cows to every Obama initiative, backs abortion, and elevates gays over heteros. MUCH better!”


I can't fathom the Republicans need to take the blame for Democrat policies. As soon as I heard Obama says "send me a bill" in his executive amnesty speech, I knew the Republicans would be tripping over themselves to get him a bill so they can take the blame for Obama's idea. I don't know why they do it...
38 posted on 01/21/2015 4:41:54 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Norm Lenhart
1992
1996
2000
2004
2008
2012
2016

In general terms, there is only one most important General Election ever.

It's always less than four years in the future.

I can guarantee you only one thing.

On November 10th, 2016, the most important General Election ever will be less than four years ahead.

39 posted on 01/21/2015 4:43:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Huh? Didn’t we just re elect these people?


40 posted on 01/21/2015 4:44:42 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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