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Pope Francis says all dogs do go to heaven
Today.com ^ | 12/12/2014 | Matt Murray

Posted on 12/12/2014 4:16:12 PM PST by FR_addict

We've all heard the expression "all dogs go to heaven." On Wednesday, the spiritual leader of 1.2 billion people around the world gave it his imprimatur.

During his weekly address in the Vatican on Wednesday, Pope Francis was consoling a little boy who had recently lost his dog, assuring the boy that he and his furry friend would reunite in heaven.

“One day, we will see our animals again in the eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures,” the pontiff said, according to Italian news sources.

(Excerpt) Read more at today.com ...


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To: Dqban22
Will also go to heaven even If the dog is a pit bull that killed 2 babies?

I say yes considering any pet's behavior is due to the human who trained/not trained it.....

I don't think any dog, cat, hampster, gerbil, mouse, etc., is inherently evil and should be excluded from heaven.......

41 posted on 12/12/2014 4:45:09 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (“We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.”)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If they have souls then there must be some that are going to Hell as well ... mahap those that pestered me no end (until I caused theirs) will be there instead. Just say’n


42 posted on 12/12/2014 4:45:46 PM PST by doc1019
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Bacteria and viruses don’t have much biblical support for having souls.”

Well they are God’s creatures, so is the Pope just pulling this out of his ass?


43 posted on 12/12/2014 4:45:54 PM PST by babygene
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To: FR_addict

Ikie, white boxer, mix eyes and all, will be there.
44 posted on 12/12/2014 4:49:16 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: FR_addict

If there are animals in heaven, I think they would be animals which God made just for heaven. I doubt they are animals from earth, as I don’t think animals have a soul.

I could be wrong, but I think a soul is what makes humans differ from the animals. God breathed life into man. Animals were created for man to have dominion over. At least that’s how I’ve always seen it.


45 posted on 12/12/2014 4:50:11 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: babygene

He said it about dogs. That doesn’t equate to a papal dispensation for cats, let alone disease germs :-).

Actually, following the creation account, certain animals are referred to with the same term, nephesh, that refers to human souls elsewhere in the bible. These tend to be the more intelligent animals, the ones that have a degree of what we would call anthropomorphism.

I’m one of those horrible Protestants, I don’t require the pope to tell me dogs have souls.


46 posted on 12/12/2014 4:51:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Animals are not capable of righteousness or sin in the sense that man is. They cannot accept or refuse agape love. So “bad dogs” don’t go to hell.


47 posted on 12/12/2014 4:52:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: JudyinCanada

The creation account is pretty much what we have to go on from the bible. And it does use the same word for animal souls as is used for human souls. That doesn’t give them totally equivalent capacities, but it bespeaks some common feature.


48 posted on 12/12/2014 4:54:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: doc1019; Vendome

No, it is the spirit function which determines Hell. Dogs (any Earthly animals or plants) have a soul but not a spirit. It is reserved unto Man and Angels to inhabit Hell. The soul without a spirit wedge is innocent of spiritual violations.


49 posted on 12/12/2014 4:54:35 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: FR_addict

Then how accursed humans are, that they are destined to Hell from birth short of the selective grace of God, while all other living things enjoy Heaven by default.


51 posted on 12/12/2014 4:56:08 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: MHGinTN

I would love to investigate this further. Can you quote Bible verses for this? Not trying to argue, just trying to understand the concept. Thanks.


52 posted on 12/12/2014 4:57:08 PM PST by doc1019
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To: babygene
What I think is, is that we do not have a Pope...

I miss Benedict...

And JPII

53 posted on 12/12/2014 4:57:51 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FR_addict

My cats vehemently disagree with the exception of my son’s retired Belgian Malinois K-9.

You never heard God saying “the whole world is going to the cats” when things went wrong.

As I told Moses, ‘you’re barking up the wrong tree” when he wanted to go Right into Canaan (and nothing but sand), instead of going Left into the Lower Sinai where the oil was.


54 posted on 12/12/2014 4:57:52 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Dqban22
Probably not you...or your pit bulls.

Only those who are full of love. Not those who are full of bull.

55 posted on 12/12/2014 4:58:42 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: doc1019

If you are questioning whether we are body, soul, and spirit, you need only consult Paul’s letter to Timotheus, his salutation at the end.


56 posted on 12/12/2014 4:59:29 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: RoosterRedux

The love or hate that animals show is largely driven by their environment. They don’t have the capability of choosing agape love deliberately to overcome the power of hate.


57 posted on 12/12/2014 5:00:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: FR_addict
He mustve seen that twilight zone episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkG2bWGZR2M

58 posted on 12/12/2014 5:01:18 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I did not think you were an idiot. But that statement is ridiculous.

Love is love!

Ask your Lord, in prayer, to define "love."

I have all my life...and that includes His love for His animals.

59 posted on 12/12/2014 5:04:13 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: MHGinTN; doc1019

The spirit is the temporal andsentient part of man, able to decide and create.

Dogs are not sentient and haven’t the ability to make decisions, much know they are dogs.

Man can conceive and behold God as The Holy Spirit and accept him as their Lord and Savior as Children of One Almighty God, The Creator of us all and creations.


60 posted on 12/12/2014 5:04:22 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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