Five items Congress deleted from Madison’s original Bill of Rights

yahoo ^ | 12/09/2014 | NCC Staff

[dontreadthis]

As Constitution Daily counts down to the debut on December 15 at the National Constitution Center of an exhibition featuring an original copy of the Bill of Rights, we are looking at some fascinating facts about the iconic document. When James Madison spoke to the First Congress he proposed 20 amendments for a Bill of Rights, and not the 10 we all know about. So what did Congress delete from the final list that was ratified by the states?

[who_would_fardels_bear]

His additions wouldn't have necessarily made anything better.

His wanting to further emphasize the rights of "the people" would have not been a favor to the states. After all, most of the leftward tilt of constitutional interpretation is due to leftists claiming that "the people" need to be protected by the enlightened feds from the evil, racist, backwoods hicks that run the states.

[Pollster1]

From the National Archives (these fifteen made it through the House, and Massachusetts didn't ratify the Bill of Rights until 1939):

[KosmicKitty]

“The powers delegated by this Constitution are appropriated to the departments to which they are respectively distributed: so that the Legislative Department shall never exercise the powers vested in the Executive or Judicial, nor the Executive exercise the powers vested in the Legislative or Judicial, nor the Judicial exercise the powers vested in the Legislative or Executive Departments,” he said in the last part of his proposed Bill of Rights.

Wish that part had been left in

[TurboZamboni]

What’s now the 1st amendment was the 3rd in Madison’s original draft.
The original first two dealt with congressional pay raises and reapportionment.

[GeronL]

yes, me too

[Boogieman]

Yes, I have seen that before, it is legitimate. It was a very early type of photograph called a “daguerreotype”, that was printed on a mirrored piece of metal.

[Sacajaweau]

The first confirmed daguerreotype of a person was 1838.

[BenLurkin]

The 10th should have been the first.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

That’s absolutely amazing, that is so crazy, that is 1848. Thomas Jefferson died only 20 years before.

[Sergio]

bkmk

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Absolutely amazing, my brother was tripping me out about that pic the other night, he said even though it’s 1848 that pic is going to seem like nothing in the coming centuries as today we have digital cameras and a photo we take today will look like it was taken 2 seconds ago 500 even thousands of years from now.

[Dead Corpse]

The only thing the Founders overlooked was a CRIMINAL penalty for deliberately violating the Oath of Office.

[John S Mosby]

5 years before his death. A daguerrotype of him, an old man- the son of John Adams, made in 1843. There is one of Andrew Jackson who is reaaaally wizened looking and wrinkled. No vitamins back then and a hell of a lot of disease, like... cholera.

[Talisker]

The 10th amendment is now treated as if it says the opposite of what it does. The 2nd has been mostly ignored for the last 150 years.

The 14th Amendment reversed the Constitution for incorporated individuals.

The Courts have ruled that you can be presumed to be an incorporated individual, and not be told about it.

The Courts have not established any way to refute that presumption.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Just think: The WW2 vets today are how people saw the Civil war vets in the 1930s. In probably 10 even 5 more years they wont exist anymore which is why I flipped my lid when Obama denied them access to their memorial last year. For that act alone, right there he should have been impeached.

[John S Mosby]

Hey, want to freak out about something else hard to believe?

President Tyler’s grandson... is STILL alive and still lives at Berkley Plantation in VA the family’s plantation.

President Tyler of “Tippecanoe and Tyler too!” fame.

From Wikipedia on President Tyler:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyler#Family_and_personal_life

“As of November 2013, Tyler has two living grandsons through his son Lyon Gardiner Tyler; he is the earliest former president with living grandchildren. Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr., was born in 1924, and Harrison Ruffin Tyler was born in 1928. Lyon Tyler Jr., resides in Franklin, Tennessee and Harrison Tyler maintains the family home, Sherwood Forest Plantation in Charles City County, Virginia.”

[BobL]

I’ve always liked this one, which would mean one House rep per 50,000 people (roughly 7,000 total). How could lobbyists control such a large number of Reps? They would be forced to answer to the voters, something we could really use now on Amnesty.

“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Apportionment_Amendment";

[TLI]

WOW.

Check the 16th amendment.

Those guys were geniuses.

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[Loud Mime]

It’s John McCain

[ExCTCitizen]

I wonder what they were and if they were added yet.