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Christians have abandoned politics. And millions are DYING because of it.
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/8/14 | Jonathon van Maren

Posted on 12/09/2014 7:17:40 AM PST by wagglebee

“There is no right and wrong!” the angry university student said loudly, storming up to our campus pro-life display.

“Is that right?” my friend Caleb said slowly. The student came to an abrupt stop, realizing, perhaps for the first time, that his worldview was, in philosophical terms, an “argument to commit suicide.”

That anecdote is illustrative of how we’ve been letting the Cultural Left get away with murder. I’m not just referring to the institutionalized destruction of life in the womb or the “mercy-killing” of the old, but also the broad cultural acceptance—including among Christians—of two stupid and dangerous ideas that have allowed the Left to dominate the cultural discussion for decades.

Christians have not been losing in the public square because we do not have the arguments to respond to the New Moral Revolution of the Cultural Left. We have been losing because we have not been making those arguments, or have not been making them articulately enough. 

First, Christians are told loudly, we can’t legislate morality.

I could point out that this argument is inevitably used to justify the legality of something blatantly wicked and immoral, like abortion. Yet, I’ve heard countless Christians tell me that while they are pro-life and do believe in Christian ethics, they don’t think trying to impact public policy or bring our message to the public square is useful because “we can’t legislate our morality.”

They’re forgetting something: All laws legislate morality. All laws are put in place because of a value judgement that something should be permitted, restricted, regulated, or banned. When Christians leave the discussion, all we’re doing is ensuring that it is someone else’s code of morality that is being enshrined into law, and someone else’s values are being used as the guiding principle for governance.

If we don’t fight for the lives of pre-born children and demand legal protection for them, for example, we’re not ensuring that the government won’t legislate morality; we’re allowing those who claim that the right to destroy human life at whim exists and is moral to seize and win the day. Eventually, the government will be paying the butchers with our own tax dollars—because a New Morality has been legislated, and ours has been definitively replaced.

A very brief look at the news cycle reveals that the Cultural Left, while silencing Christians with the demand that we cease trying to “legislate our morality,” is attempting to do precisely that. When they howl that gay marriage should be legal and accepted, they are demanding this because they say it is right and good and moral. They are stating that to deny marriage to homosexuals is discriminatory, and therefore wrong. And the solution to this, they tell us, is for the government or the courts to step in and ensure that this wrong is righted, that this injustice is corrected.

It is not that they don’t think morality should be legislated. They simply think that Christian morality should not be legislated.

Which brings me to the second argument the Left has used to silence Christians: That morality is subjective, if it even exists at all. In other words, it’s okay if you believe that, but that only means its right for you. Other people must remain “true to themselves” and do “what’s right for them.”

This is obviously nothing short of profound stupidity, but a brief jaunt on to any university campus will show you that the number of those who believe that morality does not exist (while simultaneously calling fracking and Christian ethics evil) is staggering. I’ve engaged in dozens of debates that went something like this:

Student: “Well, there is no morality.”

Me: “Okay. Do you think rape is wrong?”

Student: “Of course rape is wrong!”

Me: “Why?”

Student (nervously): “Because…you can’t just force yourself on someone.”

Me: “Says who? You’re appealing to a moral law, which necessitates a lawgiver. Who says that is wrong?”

Student (relieved to have found an answer): “The government! It’s illegal!”

Me: “While I’m glad you’ve found your source of morality, wouldn’t you agree that laws have been wrong before? What about slavery? Segregation?”

This is to illustrate, of course, that morality cannot be subjective, or it is not morality. Right and wrong cannot be subjective, or they cease to exist. Appalling crimes like rape and murder should be illegal, because they are immoral. Christians would argue that they are immoral because God, the Lawgiver, has said they are. The Cultural Left cannot claim that banning abortion, for example, is immoral—because they cannot claim anything is immoral. Inevitably, their claims that something is or is not immoral is based on one thing: How they feel about something. (When they appeal to science, they are again being fallacious: Science, of course, can only tell us what is, not what ought to be. Science can reveal to us observable truths, but cannot provide us with correlating value judgements.)

Christians have not been losing in the public square because we do not have the arguments to respond to the New Moral Revolution of the Cultural Left. We have been losing because we have not been making those arguments, or have not been making them articulately enough. We’ve often bought the laughable lies that morality simultaneously does not exist, and cannot be legislated. Both of these lies are simply a means of keeping us from fighting for what is right in the public square. In many cases, we’ve vacated the battlefield. It’s time to engage like never before—because as we see with abortion, assisted suicide, and euthanasia, lives literally depend on it.


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Christians have not been losing in the public square because we do not have the arguments to respond to the New Moral Revolution of the Cultural Left. We have been losing because we have not been making those arguments, or have not been making them articulately enough. We’ve often bought the laughable lies that morality simultaneously does not exist, and cannot be legislated. Both of these lies are simply a means of keeping us from fighting for what is right in the public square. In many cases, we’ve vacated the battlefield. It’s time to engage like never before—because as we see with abortion, assisted suicide, and euthanasia, lives literally depend on it.

Perfectly stated!

1 posted on 12/09/2014 7:17:40 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/09/2014 7:18:09 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 12/09/2014 7:19:16 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
First, Christians are told loudly, we can’t legislate morality.

All of our laws are based on The Decalogue.

4 posted on 12/09/2014 7:22:08 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: wagglebee

Well...a lot of my fellow Christians didn’t want to pull the lever for Romney.


5 posted on 12/09/2014 7:22:30 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: wagglebee

BUMP!


6 posted on 12/09/2014 7:24:32 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: wagglebee

I still say we lost a lot the day Jerry Falwell died.


7 posted on 12/09/2014 7:26:06 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Well...a lot of my fellow Christians didn’t want to pull the lever for Romney.

In retrospect, NONE OF US should have voted for Romney.

Romney is the architect of Obama's agenda.

8 posted on 12/09/2014 7:31:17 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I agree with the writer’s thesis regarding many Christians buying into the “you can’t legislate morality”, and I’ve also heard many Christians say that getting involved in politics is unGodly and unChristian, that the world is gonna do what the world is gonna do, that “it’s all gonna burn anyway”’ and now, I am also hearing “well, God is working all,of this out according to His will, He is in control” (sort of a Calvinistic fatalism).


9 posted on 12/09/2014 7:31:21 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: wagglebee

Yes, but the choice we had was better than what we’ve got.


10 posted on 12/09/2014 7:34:16 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: wagglebee

The article assumes that you are dealing with a rational being and that your arguments will sway Liberals/Progressives/Atheists. It has been shown many times that Liberals/Progressives/Atheists are anything but rational.

Discussing anything with Liberals/Progressives/Atheists is like trying to put a cloud in a box.


11 posted on 12/09/2014 7:35:58 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: wagglebee
Both of these lies are simply a means of keeping us from fighting for what is right in the public square. In many cases, we’ve vacated the battlefield.

I would only add that many, many pastors in churches across America have been almost shaming their congregations into silence.

Following the success of the "Moral Majority" as a cultural and political force, and particularly after the AIDS epidemic, church leaders have chided congregations into silence by agreeing with the Left that all public opposition was hateful and that we should show compassion and love.

I recall hearing over and over how people with AIDS were the modern era lepers ( a completely false analogy). I recall hearing how we should not focus on one sin (homosexuality). I recall hearing how unruly, condemning and lacking in compassion Christians had become in their war against the homosexual tide.

And now, as a result, for the most part the church is mute and homosexual "marriage" is legal in nearly all fifty states. Christians were told to basically just disengage politically and culturally and work to show compassion instead of shining the light on sin. As a result, many people obeyed and pulled up tent stakes and let the darkness begin to overwhelm.

And here we are today. The church is silent, cowering in the corner, fearful of being labeled as un-compassionate, non-Christlike, and judgmental, and millions upon millions of souls will now face eternity apart from their Creator as a result.

12 posted on 12/09/2014 7:36:52 AM PST by Obadiah
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Yes, but the choice we had was better than what we’ve got.

No, it wasn't.

There is no difference between Romney and Obama.

I realize that you're new here, but this is a CONSERVATIVE forum, not a GOP fan club.

13 posted on 12/09/2014 7:37:37 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yes well said....but far too many social conservatives have themselves to blame for others being “turned off”....
Sometimes we cannot take yes for an answer.........


14 posted on 12/09/2014 7:40:47 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: miss marmelstein
I still say we lost a lot the day Jerry Falwell died.

Was he on that plane with Buddy Holly and The Big Bopper?
15 posted on 12/09/2014 7:41:08 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Slyfox
All of our laws are based on The Decalogue.

1) Really??? 0bamacare is based on The Decalogue? Seems to me it's based on VIOLATING The Decalogue.

2) The Decalogue is a code of MORAL laws. Yes, you CAN legislate morality.

16 posted on 12/09/2014 7:43:21 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Yes, but the choice we had was better than what we’ve got.

You are in agreement with the elite leadership of the Republican Party. Perhaps we will have a chance to vote for Romney again in 2016 or 2020.
17 posted on 12/09/2014 7:44:08 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: PistolPaknMama

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18 posted on 12/09/2014 7:44:30 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: wagglebee

You can’t have a debate with a leftist on campus. All they know are shallow memes and fabricated narratives.
They have to silence you.


19 posted on 12/09/2014 7:47:53 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Obadiah

Yes but HIV and AIDS are still around. You can’t escape from natural consequences.


20 posted on 12/09/2014 7:49:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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