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Turkish Minister: Muslims Discovered the Earth is Round
Arutz Sheva ^ | 30/11/14 | Tova Dvorin

Posted on 11/30/2014 3:19:26 PM PST by Eleutheria5

The Turkish Science Minister has become the latest public figure to make outrageous claims over Islam's hand in science and technology, the Hurriyet Daily News reported Friday - this time, claiming that Muslims discovered that the world is round.

"Some 700-800 years before Galileo, 71 Muslim scientists led by al-Khwarizmi convened by the order of the Caliph Al-Ma'mun and revealed that the Earth is a sphere," Minister Fikri stated on Thursday.

Fikri further claimed that a copy of the original document proving Islam's role in astronomy is currently in the Museum of Islamic Science and Technology in Istanbul.

The Earth was widely regarded as flat until the 3rd century BCE, when the Hellenists proposed that the Earth was a sphere based on astronomical calculations. Plato was among the early supporters of the concept of a spherical Earth, writing in Phaedo that "my conviction is that the earth is a round body in the centre of the heavens, and therefore has no need of air or of any similar force to be a support."

Fikri's statement does have a kernel of merit to it: indeed, around 830 AD, Caliph Al-Ma'mun did commission a group of Muslim scientists to calculate the Earth's circumference, using measurements of the distance from Tadmur (Palmyra) to Raqqah, the current capital of ISIS in Syria. The commission did, in fact, reach measurements close to modern values.

Fikri's fundamental error, however, is in who Galileo Galilei was; instead of pioneering Western acceptance of the Earth as a sphere, he supported heliocentrism, the theory that the Earth revolves around the Sun. He was subsequently persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church in the seventeenth century for holding these views.

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To: Eleutheria5

I thought the Babylonians believed the Earth to be round.


21 posted on 11/30/2014 3:44:59 PM PST by fso301
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To: humblegunner

If they didn’t have the goats the inbreeding would be even worse.


22 posted on 11/30/2014 3:45:01 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: hal ogen

Besides, they never refuse or say they’re not in the mood, and they don’t have those annoying round things getting in the way. Now that’s a discovery./s


23 posted on 11/30/2014 3:46:01 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The pre-First Dynasty Chinese, the Jomaran Japanese, the Sumerians, the Phoneticians, the Egyptians of the Old Kingdom to name a few all knew the Earth was round.

It was only the Europeans, locked in the Dark Ages, who were willfully ignorant that the Earth is a sphere. Whatever knowledge they might have inherited from the Greeks, they burned.

Thousands of years before Christ was, various cultures were aware of the Earth’s shape. Minister Fikri is either behind on his history or, like the Europeans of the Dark Ages, willfully ignorant. Then again, maybe it is taqiyya for the muslim masses.


24 posted on 11/30/2014 3:47:25 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rjsimmon

Since when is a circle a sphere?


25 posted on 11/30/2014 3:48:10 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Eleutheria5

Before or after they wiped and dipped with their left hand


26 posted on 11/30/2014 3:51:01 PM PST by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Eleutheria5

> But back to the Jive Turkeys and their made-up Islamic accomplishments. They have to make them up. They have no real ones.

Well stated. All muslims ever did was enslave Greek and other European scientists and take credit for their work.


27 posted on 11/30/2014 3:51:11 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Muslim Creeping Conquest of America and Canada)
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To: ForYourChildren

he was a music critic? what a multifaceted guy..


28 posted on 11/30/2014 3:52:31 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: ForYourChildren
You beat me to it.

Eratosthenes had all these characters beat by more than a thousand years. LOL.

29 posted on 11/30/2014 3:53:01 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: Eleutheria5

Actually he means that Muslims discovered the earth was round last week.


30 posted on 11/30/2014 3:53:37 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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31 posted on 11/30/2014 4:02:52 PM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Which means most moslems pray in to space and not “towards” mecca.


32 posted on 11/30/2014 4:14:03 PM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Besides, they never refuse or say they’re not in the mood, and they don’t have those annoying round things getting in the way.”

Not only that but they have tails to hold onto so they can’t get away...


33 posted on 11/30/2014 4:19:02 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Oh,goodie.

A new Internet meme. Turks say Muslim did amazing things.

Like the Chuck Norris jokes.

I’ll go first.

The Turks say that Muslims were the first to land on the moon.


34 posted on 11/30/2014 4:21:09 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Eleutheria5

>>The Greeks actually were the first to figure out that it was a sphere and calculate the circumference based on scientific observation.

Exactly - no Greek writer thought the earth was anything BUT round after 400 BC. That’s a THOUSAND YEARS before the advent of Islam, you know, the language that believed that Christ animated clay birds and that he ISN’T the final prophet but somehow shows up at the end of time.


35 posted on 11/30/2014 4:23:11 PM PST by struggle
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To: Eleutheria5
Islams discovered the world is round? When? The only thing I'll give Islam is the Arabic numbers.

Someone wrote that Islam discovered America. Sorry I'd believe America was discovered by space aliens before I believe Muzzies discovered America.

36 posted on 11/30/2014 4:26:01 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Brother Cracker

Funny... that is funny...


37 posted on 11/30/2014 4:27:31 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Eleutheria5

Islam will be the last to embrace freedom for both its adherents and for the slaves they own.


38 posted on 11/30/2014 4:54:41 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Eleutheria5

Yeah - last week.


39 posted on 11/30/2014 5:03:38 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Eleutheria5

At some point I suppose they did discover that. Actually that was common knowledge among the educated classes for a few centuries before before there were Moslems. I discovered that the Earth is Round sometime before my 6th birthday. I think my mommy told me so.


40 posted on 11/30/2014 5:16:18 PM PST by arthurus
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