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GOP bill would defund Obama's immigration order
The Hill ^ | 11/21/2014 | Cristina Marcos

Posted on 11/21/2014 11:27:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: tanknetter

So...attach it to funding food stamps then, the RATS wouldn’t let him veto that!

The RATS could filibuster food stamp funding in the senate next year, but their moonbat gibsmedat base would burn them at the stake!


41 posted on 11/21/2014 12:28:56 PM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How do you prove that?

THROUGH THE STATES!!

If the states arrest and run background checks (which most do), they then notify the Federal agencies. When the agencies refuse to pick them up, refuse to prosecute, refuse to deport, or anything along those lines - start the charges!!
42 posted on 11/21/2014 12:31:44 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: tanknetter
The Budget is only an internal Congressional document and does not authorize any spending. Its purpose is to give direction to the various appropriation committees. This is why it does not need a presidential signature. There may be the practice of authorizing the spending of funds collected by fees without Congressional appropriation but if so this in itself is contrary to the Constitution that explicitly states:
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.
The Treasury means the funds held by the government of the United States, not just account in the Department of Treasury. According to the Constitution all spending must be authorized by an "Appropriation made by Law."
43 posted on 11/21/2014 12:36:33 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Hugin

And who gave him that money? Well, I guess now we know had the GOP not written Zero so many blank checks, he would have increased his budget through EO.


44 posted on 11/21/2014 12:39:49 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: fruser1

“Oh not that” says Lerner and Holder.


45 posted on 11/21/2014 12:40:56 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Petrosius

Then please explain to me why Immigration stayed open and operational through the entirety of the government shutdown last year?


46 posted on 11/21/2014 12:41:17 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: fruser1
Congress tells the directors of the departments that would implement the EO that they will be charged w/contempt of congress if they do.

Oh no, NOT THAT!!! Anything but THAT!!! < /Eric Holder>

47 posted on 11/21/2014 12:43:33 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Deciding Female Criminal Guilt By How Hot They Are Since 1999 !)
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To: tanknetter

Because it has been a long time since we have actually followed the Constitution. It is time to return to what the Constitution actually says and for Congress to reclaim its powers.


48 posted on 11/21/2014 12:49:32 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Patton@Bastogne

RE: Congress can override Obama’s veto.

Yes they can, with 2/3 votes.

We don’t have that.

At most, we’ll have 54 Republicans in the Senate. Good luck finding the 13 Democrats who will side with the GOP to override any Obama veto.


49 posted on 11/21/2014 12:58:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Failure to uphold the law is a violation by each Cabinet Secretary, and underling.

I recommend we get busy defunding / impeaching / convicting each of THEM who enforce unconstitutional edicts rather than the law.

Impeaching 0bama is a fool’s errand in the last two years.

Destroying his underlings by the thousands in the mean-time is just and right.


50 posted on 11/21/2014 12:59:16 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Jonathan Gruber)
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To: Beagle8U

RE: They can pass a bill that makes it illegal to spend anything on implementing his amnesty.

But Obama still has to sign it into law...


51 posted on 11/21/2014 1:00:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

But its great politics....it makes people think their reps are conservative and are doing something.

David Cameron does this kind of crap in the UK and people don’t buy it, they vote for the new political party, UKIP instead.....


52 posted on 11/21/2014 1:11:10 PM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, and I’m sure Obama will sign that legislation into law ( HA HA HA ).

If you read my entire post, you would see that I suggested that it be part of any CR to continue funding the government. Yes, Obama might veto it, but then he would have to defend shutting down the government solely in order to be able to spend money for an order that the vast majority of Americans oppose.

53 posted on 11/21/2014 1:12:25 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: SeekAndFind
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At most, we’ll have 54 Republicans in the Senate. Good luck finding the 13 Democrats who will side with the GOP to override any Obama veto.


Yes ... you're correct.


America is at a historic crossroads. We're financially broke. Good jobs are scarce, and it'll only get worse ... for blacks, whites, asians.

In 2016 the economy will be a shambles.

Obama's 2014 Illegal Amnesty Executive Action will be seen as a bigger disaster than "ObamaCare".



The 2016 presidential election might be the one when American blacks desert the Democratic Party ... maybe only 10-15 percent.

I believe that the "great" 2016 political litmus test will be:

Did you support Obama in 2014 ???



Very few politicians who did, will politically survive after 2016 and 2018.

Secretly, the Democrats are terrified of Obama, but can't stop him.



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54 posted on 11/21/2014 1:27:40 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

GOP needs to stop worrying about reputation.

Make a SWEETer bill, pass it in Congress,,,one that allows for so much for ALL 11 million illegals,,puts the steps down, etc. More goodies. Even though it’s not sincere, neither are the Dem efforts. Beat the Dems at their own game. Blow it up in their face and make it bigger. Would have to be careful,,,but do an about face on it and give the illegals even MORE. Most can be undone later....with a Republican president. It’s only for 2 years. Win over the illegal side with the same bribe tactics the Dems are using....and get a Republican president in there. If Obama vetos it,,even better!


55 posted on 11/21/2014 1:55:56 PM PST by austinaero
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To: austinaero

Repubs should tell King Obama “MOre illegals deserve a better chance than what you stingy liberals are giving them”....sweeten the rhetoric,,,appear to sweeten the pot and dare King Obama to veto it. Causing him to veto ANY legislation that appears sympathetic to illegals is going to look very bad for him. Beat him at his own game.

The very last things the Dems are expecting is for the GOP to come up with a an even bigger, better, sweeter deal. Of course it can be undone later,,and blamed on the Dems! We have to play their game!


56 posted on 11/21/2014 1:59:39 PM PST by austinaero
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To: austinaero

If the Dems or the MSM say “hey, wait a minute!” GOP can always say “we’ve ALWAYS felt this should go thru Congress first!” That’s all they have to say....that the argument was about the process,,,not the illegals.


57 posted on 11/21/2014 2:02:01 PM PST by austinaero
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To: austinaero

Can you imagine Reid or Pelosi actually being forced to say “Well, we don’t want to give the illegals TOO much.”...or something like that.

That’s what the GOP should do. Make the objections about the process.....it’s only two more years.


58 posted on 11/21/2014 2:04:13 PM PST by austinaero
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To: SeekAndFind

Which has NO chance of being signed into law-these Reps. think the American people are idiots or easily led, well you won’t fool us this time!


59 posted on 11/21/2014 5:00:36 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: austinaero

How is going liberal beating them?


60 posted on 11/21/2014 5:02:07 PM PST by JSDude1
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