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Obama promised Obamacare wouldn't do exactly what Gruber says it will do
CNN ^ | November 19, 2014 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 11/19/2014 2:37:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 11/19/2014 4:12:17 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

"....At a town hall meeting on health care on July 23, 2009 in Shaker Heights, Ohio, Obama explained that the thinking of the Cadillac tax was to target plans that spend unnecessarily and excessively, thus driving up health care costs, such as a $25,000 plan, "so one that's a lot more expensive and a lot fancier than the one that even members of Congress get."


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aca; cadillactax; california; fraud; gruber; grubergate; jonathangruber; lies; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamacarecon; obamagruber; ohio; shakerheights
Gruber said, those who object to the tax will be obligated to figure out how to come up with the trillion dollars that repealing the tax will take from the U.S. Treasury,

ALL of our earnings are THEIR earnings.

How much they leave us - what would be our breaking point - is what they have to decide.

That employee healthcare benefits aren't taxed is what is sticking in their craw.

Rush talked about this yesterday.

They had to HIDE this as costing the people -- making it sound like the big bad insurance companies would pay for it.

1 posted on 11/19/2014 2:37:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Companies ALWAYS pass along expenses to the end user....that’s why our premiums have SKYROCKETED!! My husband’s insurance TRIPLED....TRIPLED....and he’s healthy as can be!!


2 posted on 11/19/2014 2:41:42 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: All
Author:

Jake Tapper not Jake Trapper....

3 posted on 11/19/2014 2:56:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So it’s now being reported by at least one person at CNN. What about the evening news? I don’t watch so I don’t know. Has ABCNBCCBS breathed a word of this yet? The biggest story of the 3rd Millennium? Have they noticed it yet?


4 posted on 11/19/2014 2:56:48 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obamacare as promised...

Obamacare as written and delivered...


5 posted on 11/19/2014 2:57:19 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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THE GOVT CONSPIRACY UP-CLOSE:

<><> At a July 23, 2009 town hall, Obama described the conspiracy----he explained that the "Cadillac tax" invented by Gruber was intended to target health plans that spend unnecessarily and excessively, thus driving up health care costs (such as the $25,000 plans as union benefits).... "that's a lot more expensive and a lot fancier than the one that even members of Congress get, " Marxist Obama griped.....rushing to the defense of Big Govt.

<><> By 2018, they had decided to switch gears----lock-stepper Gruber was saying just the opposite. That those who object to the Cadillac tax (dratted Republicans) will be obligated to figure out how to come up with the trillion dollars that repealing the tax will take from the U.S. Treasury, or risk significantly adding to the national debt....exactly what Obama told voters in 2009 he had "taken off the table."....

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REALITY CHECK: The Cadillac tax was part of the Obama/Gruber/Big Govt conspiracy designed (1) to destroy insurance companies......targets of Progressive unending hatred, and, (2) to deny end-of-life care to the elderly......deplored by Progressive Marxists.

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Clearly---Gruber was handed the Marxist dream plan FIRST. Then Obama bribed money-hungry Gruber w/ a hefty $400,000 tax dollars to invent a healthcare model so that he, and lock-stepping Dems, could sell it to gullible Americans.

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Progressive Democrat Gruber achieved every single one of the odious Marxist dicta. The preening, duplicitous Gruber---the embodiment of cockamamie far-left thinking---believed it was his moral duty to lie, deceive and collude w/ the US govt......so that these revolting ideas could be imposed on "sub-mental defectives' taking up valuable space in their Utopian America.

Loyal foot-soldier Gruber, in obeisance to the Marxist dream, invented mechanisms to serve Obama's Marxist obsession w/ wealth transfer---as candidate Obama told Joe the Plumber---his plan was to redistribute the wealth:

(1) throwing Americans off affordable health plans
while assuring them they could "keep their plans,"

(2) nationalizing 1/6 of the US economy,

3) installing IPAB's (healthcare rationing),

(4) decimating intergenerational transfers of wealth (
a Progressive bugaboo---in Obamacare, grandma/pa's holdings go to the govt---not to you),

(5) pulling $750 billion out of Medicare (another Progressive irritant---giving the elderly healthcare),

(6) drug-rationing---death panels,

(8) outright abandoning seniors and the chronically ill,

(9) transferring wealth from healthy young Americans to subsidize healthcare for others.

Obama organized Democrats into a high-stepping cheerleading squad to force the Progressive Poison down the throats of recalcitrant Americans.

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Vladimir Lenin / 1945 pamphlet

“Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.”

6 posted on 11/19/2014 3:04:00 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The fact that Congress exempted themselves and their staffs from zer0care says it all.


7 posted on 11/19/2014 3:04:09 AM PST by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

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8 posted on 11/19/2014 3:11:54 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Strange it is, how CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, LAT, etc. do not allow comments on stories which impact the 0bama Machine negatively.

I was hoping for entertainment as the left LIV flail against the truth.


9 posted on 11/19/2014 3:18:49 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Guy is Muslim and lying to infidels is fair, almost required. He has lied since he began campaining. And US Pravda has been covering for him. We can at least be honest and transparent to ourselves.


10 posted on 11/19/2014 3:24:05 AM PST by chit*chat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am just going to believe that Gruber and those monsters like him will get what are due to them.


11 posted on 11/19/2014 3:33:28 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Es Mi Partido, Ahora!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Holy Toledo! This is CNN? Granted, this is written in a very dry and uninspired writing style, but still....

CNN????


12 posted on 11/19/2014 3:39:14 AM PST by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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I wonder if some freelance journalists at CNN lost the insurance they liked.


13 posted on 11/19/2014 3:54:53 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You mean to tell me the POS muslim puppet president is a lying ahole?..... I’m stunned!


14 posted on 11/19/2014 4:01:53 AM PST by high info voter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
... "so one that's a lot more expensive and a lot fancier than the one that even members of Congress get."

And that statement right there is the new definition of luxury in the United States.

-PJ

15 posted on 11/19/2014 4:08:52 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Obama promised Obamacare wouldn’t do exactly what Gruber says it will do” and has done.


16 posted on 11/19/2014 5:36:45 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Ann Archy

My BCBS has gone up 60% in one year. I’m looking at catastrophic plans because I think it’s immoral and unjust that someone should have to pay $10K a year for basic insurance coverage. I’m healthy as well.

That reminds me. Sens. Kaine and Warner need to hear from me again about this. I haven’t called them to complain for a few weeks.


17 posted on 11/19/2014 6:03:28 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: Caipirabob
Stupidity Reconsidered: Election Proved Americans Aren't Fooled by Gruber and Obama

Dr. Ben Carson | Nov 19, 2014

http://townhall.com/columnists/drbencarson/2014/11/19/stupidity-reconsidered-election-proved-americans-arent-fooled-by-gruber-and-obama-n1920600

”What is truly disturbing is the fact that our government is willing to engage in the purposeful deception of the populace in order to thrust its secretive agenda onto an unsuspecting populace and a sycophantic mainstream media. As I have said many times before, Obamacare was never about health care; it was about government control and wealth redistribution.” (Ben Carson)

Not a single Republican senator or Congressman voted in favor of that monstrosity called Obamacare. It must be make perfectly clear that democrat Phd com man Gruber, called stupid not all the American voters, but just the democrat voters that put the “Liar in Chief” in the White House, in spite of his Marxist anti-American back ground, and all the Democrats legislators co-conspirators with the president and the MSM in the greatest deception against the American people in the history of the United States.

Obamacare Architect/ Non-Staff Member Visited The White House Quite A Bit

Matt Vespa | Nov 19, 2014

“Mr. Gruber went to the White House at least six times in 2009, according to a review of visitor logs. He met with the president on July 20, 2009, and was joined by other economists. Some of the other meetings were held with Jeanne Lambrew, deputy assistant to the president for health policy, and Peter Orszag, former director of the Office of Management and Budget.

Mr. Gruber visited the White House at least twice in 2010 and met with Jason Furman, who is now chairman of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers. Mr. Gruber meet with Ms. Lambrew at least twice this year and was at the White House as recently as June, the records show. For five of the meetings, visitor records don’t show when Mr. Gruber arrived or departed, making it unclear whether the appointments were kept.

Mr. Gruber wrote a 2011 cartoon book called “Health Care Reform” that aimed to explain the federal law. A note about the author says Mr. Gruber “consulted extensively with the Obama administration and Congress during the development” of the law.”

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2014/11/19/obamacare-architect-nonstaff-member-visited-the-white-house-quite-a-bit-n1920697

According to Obama, the MTI professor, a frequent visitor to the White House, was just a ”random” adviser. For his “invaluable advise and services” to the Obama administration professor Gruber received over 5.9 million dollars... Stupidity and corruption to the nth power.

18 posted on 11/20/2014 6:12:50 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo)
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