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Why China Is Cooperating on Climate Change (Barf Alert!!!)
Townhall.com ^ | November 16, 2014 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 11/16/2014 11:40:11 AM PST by Kaslin

Americans like to keep the world simple, dividing important countries into two groups: valued allies and hateful enemies. That approach suffices when we're talking about South Korea and North Korea. But it doesn't work well when it comes to China.

Many people see it as a giant, looming menace. The truth is more complicated. With China, we have a worrisome rival end an indispensable partner.

That latter status has never been clearer than today, after a summit that produced several new accords between Washington and Beijing. The most important and surprising was an agreement to curb emissions of greenhouse gases that cause global warming. It is, in the words of a former Obama administration official, "the most important bilateral climate announcement ever."

Back home, people on either side of the climate issue agreed it's a big, fat hairy deal. Environmentalists who had forgotten how to smile were wearing out underused face muscles. The Natural Resources Defense Council called it "a turning point in the fight against global warming" that "will help protect our families' health and shield future generations from unchecked climate change."

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, however, lost the post-election spring in his step, saying the agreement advances "the president's ideological War on Coal" and "will increase the squeeze on middle-class families and struggling miners."

The bigger reason coal miners are struggling is that their product has been undercut by a boom in the production of natural gas. But McConnell would prefer to blame Barack Obama for commercial developments that are largely the result of ordinary market forces.

The opponents of climate change action had counted on China to give the United States an excuse to do nothing about planetary overheating. Their argument was that it would put a staggering burden on American companies, giving a big advantage to their unconstrained Chinese competitors.

But a couple of underlying assumptions turned out to be faulty. One is that the Chinese put economic growth above everything else. Another is that they are too bent on defying and weakening the U.S. to give in on such a momentous issue.

In reality, the Chinese have come to understand that ever-growing carbon emissions go hand in hand with their deadly air pollution, which causes 670,000 deaths per year -- more than the population of Seattle. They also understand that on many issues, cooperation makes more sense than conflict.

President Xi Jinping is flexing his muscles in Asia, but he also understands the need to minimize the danger of unwanted hostilities with a superpower. He and Obama agreed that the two governments will keep each other informed of their military exercises and work out rules for air and sea encounters.

Little heeded on this side of the Pacific is that Beijing has done many things to show its acceptance of international norms -- joining the World Trade Organization, participating in UN peacekeeping operations and providing more funds to combat Ebola in Africa than any government but ours.

That doesn't mean it won't challenge or even bully its neighbors, including our allies. But it's not a rogue state or a Cold War-style adversary. It's a normal nation with normal desires to enlarge its capacity to shape regional and world events.

The summit illustrated the positive side of this impulse. By embracing international obligations like combating climate change, Beijing makes it harder for Republicans to rationalize despoliation of the planet on behalf of special interests like the U.S. coal industry. It also creates pressure on other major polluters -- notably India -- to follow suit.

Not least important, it undermines those in China who prefer the status quo. Governments generally don't like to embarrass themselves by reneging on public commitments, because it makes other countries reluctant to transact with them. Taking this stand sends a message to party leaders, bureaucrats and industrial titans that they had better get on board.

Critics claim China is free to do nothing until 2030, when it agreed to cap its emissions. But Beijing has already been pouring money into clean energy programs, while revamping its electricity market to discourage the use of coal.

This year, reports NPR, the nation's coal consumption dropped, a first for this century. A new law stipulates that local and provincial officials will be judged partly on how well they meet environmental goals.

Life and U.S. foreign policy would be simpler if China were as hostile and duplicitous as some Americans assume. But they wouldn't be easier.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: barack0bama; china; climatechange

1 posted on 11/16/2014 11:40:11 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Did the Red Chinese said they would cooperate? I thought they said that they would “think about it”. That’s what I read some where.


2 posted on 11/16/2014 11:46:42 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Provisional ballots'. When legal votes just aren't getting the job done. - The DemocRATS.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The agreement doesn’t call for any action on China’s part for 16 years, I have read, which makes this one huge joke.


3 posted on 11/16/2014 11:51:00 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Yep. Two guys on the edge of a cliff. China says you jump first and i’ll be right behind you.

sucka


4 posted on 11/16/2014 11:54:55 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Kaslin
"With China, we have a worrisome rival end an indispensable partner."

Stopped reading there.

5 posted on 11/16/2014 12:01:28 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Kaslin

What is this article doing on Townhall.com?

The accord calls for the United States to cut carbon-dioxide emissions from 2005 levels 17 percent.by 2020 and up to 28 percent by 2025, while China simply set a target for carbon-dioxide emissions to peak by around 2030, with the goal of topping out earlier, and expand the share of China’s energy consumption derived from zero-emission sources to about 20 percent by 2030.

And the administration designed the pact in such a way that Congress can be bypassed even after Obama leaves office in early 2017.

Which is driven by alarmists, which predicted the Arctic sea ice would be gone already, and now says that it may disappear entirely, (Mark Jacobson, professor at Stanford University) - http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/5-key-insights-into-Obama-s-climate-change-deal-5889096.php


6 posted on 11/16/2014 12:02:23 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: GeronL

The agreement doesn’t call for any action on China’s part for 16 years

Yep, they’ve taken a sue from our welfare recipents.—They don’t have to do a thing, but get free stuff anyway.


7 posted on 11/16/2014 12:03:08 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Kaslin

I think that the world could cut anthropogenic CO2 emissions to 1900 levels and there would be no appreciable temperature change for 100 years.

What the US agreement with China would be is that we will give them money for their green projects.


8 posted on 11/16/2014 12:05:42 PM PST by Mike Darancette (AGW-e is the climate "Domino Theory")
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To: Kaslin

The author never mentioned the terms of the deal. Wonder why?


9 posted on 11/16/2014 12:11:16 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Kaslin

It’s easy to cooperate when you don’t have to do anything.

This is a non-binding agreement even for the USA unles Congress ratifies it. And that’s not happening.

If we are stupid enough to ruin our economy over nothing, that’s our problem. China isn’t that stupid, as you can see from the “deal”.


10 posted on 11/16/2014 12:20:48 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: GeronL

Exactly. The only people hurt by Barry’s handshake with the Red Chinese are the Americans.


11 posted on 11/16/2014 12:21:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Provisional ballots'. When legal votes just aren't getting the job done. - The DemocRATS.)
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To: Kaslin
"Critics claim China is free to do nothing until 2030, when it agreed to cap its emissions. "

It's not a 'claim', it's a fact.

12 posted on 11/16/2014 12:23:10 PM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: Kaslin
The most important and surprising was an agreement to curb emissions of greenhouse gases that cause global warming.

No they don't, dimwit. Go back to science class. Every scientific measurement -- ice cores in particular -- shows that increases in atmospheric CO2 *follow* warming trends by several hundred years. There's absolutely no scientific proof that C02 is the cause of "global warming."

13 posted on 11/16/2014 12:32:08 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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FReepers, Let's go!
Everyone needs to donate!

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14 posted on 11/16/2014 12:34:41 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Mr. K

Actually it’s worse than people may have realized. This “agreement” encourages China to run its emissions as high as possible over the next 16 years. Then, with any temporary lowering of emissions (equipment upgrades timed to 2030) they can claim compliance.

That’s assuming China will care anything about compliance at the time. There are no penalties for non-compliance.


15 posted on 11/16/2014 12:42:20 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: Kaslin

China loves to laugh at S0r0$ organ monkey.


16 posted on 11/16/2014 12:53:21 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

Cooperating? - they can go on doing whatever they want in polluting ‘til 2030, then they have to think about maybe limiting their pollution, while we have to continue our Procrustian cutbacks starting last month - Obama could not be damaging the country more if he were trying.....


17 posted on 11/16/2014 1:33:24 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Kaslin

Because nobody will hold them to account, while Obama grabs any excuse to weaken America.


18 posted on 11/16/2014 2:48:56 PM PST by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Steve Chapman is normally a baby-killing, pro-homosexual agenda libertarian. But on global warming, he’s the biggest statist around.


19 posted on 11/16/2014 2:51:42 PM PST by heye2monn (MO)
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