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Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It Passed
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/10/2014 9:31:37 AM PST by Kaslin

Meet Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT and an architect of Obamacare. During panel event last year about how the legislation passed, turning over a sixth of the U.S. economy to the government, Gruber admitted that the Obama administration went through "tortuous" measures to keep the facts about the legislation from the American people, including covering up the redistribution of wealth from the healthy to the sick in the legislation that Obamacare is in fact a tax. The video of his comments just recently surfaced ahead of the second open enrollment period for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov.

"You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that," Gruber said. "In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not."

GRUBER: "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage."

A few points. 1.Notice how lying to the American people is completely justified by Obama administration standards so long as the ends justify the means. Gruber would "rather have this law than not," and therefore purposely lying about what the law actually is in order to get it passed is completely acceptable. regardless of the negative effects it has on the lives of Americans. 2. Lack of transparency might be a huge political advantage in the short term, but long term there are consequences from voters, which is exactly what we saw last week during the Democrat blood bath at every level of government across the country. 3. Insulting Americans as stupid and deceiving them is a really good way to lose your power on Capitol Hill, which is again exactly what we saw last week in the 2014 midterms. Twenty-eight Senators who voted for Obamacare are now out of the Senate for one reason or another. 4. Obamacare in its entirely was "sold" on lies. From the promise to keep your doctor to claims insurance rates would go down, not up -- to hiding that the legislation was in fact a tax until of course it was necessary to argue it was a tax to save the legislation at the Supreme Court. Government bureaucrats promising an expansion of care knowing care under Obamacare would be limited, etc. Hell, even the official name for Obamacare, "The Affordable Care Act," is a lie. Obamacare isn't affordable. 5. The process through which Obamacare was shoved through and down the throats of the American people happened as a result of Harry Reid changing Senate rules and without the support of voters. The legislation didn't receive a single Republican vote in the House or the Senate. Also, remember this?

Nancy Pelosi - What she is willing to do to pass Healthcare

Or this?

"Absolutely not a tax increase."

Obama in 2009: "Absolutely Not a Tax Increase"

Obamacare is a sham and the American people have been lied to and deceived every step of the way. Further, Obamacare has never been popular with the American people. Not when it passed and not now. It should also be noted that since before Obamacare was passed conservatives have been rightly screaming about its true contents and impact on American families and the economy. They've been right all along and were called racists for sounding the alarm.

Overall, a lack of transparency has been key to the Obama administration's existence on a whole range of topics, which is why it is one of the least transparent administrations in history despite President Obama's promises.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 0carenightmare; california; gruber; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamacarelies; obamacaretax; stupidvoters; unaffordablecareact
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1 posted on 11/10/2014 9:31:37 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I swear..... I’m not making threats here.... but some of these b*st*rds ought to be swinging from lamp posts.


2 posted on 11/10/2014 9:34:28 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Cruz - get on the floor, get on the talk shows.

CALL THE RATS LIARS AND DO IT REPEATEDLY AND LOUDLY.


3 posted on 11/10/2014 9:35:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

This needs to get out on the airwaves to every American, but it won’t. Of course, they should have known even before he admitted it, because it was plain as day anyway, that the rats were lying in order to shove this down out throats-while keeping themselves exempt from this pile of vomit.


4 posted on 11/10/2014 9:36:00 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks, Judas Roberts.


5 posted on 11/10/2014 9:36:00 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Kaslin

If the GOP really wanted to undo the ACA mess they’d buy airtime nationwide and feature this soundbite. People already hate Obamacare - this would set them to frothing at the mouth.


6 posted on 11/10/2014 9:36:35 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

Torches and pitchforks.


7 posted on 11/10/2014 9:36:48 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Kaslin
You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it.

That's supposed to be your clue that you SHOULDN'T do it, asshole! You're not our bettor, you're just potential lamppost decoration. You're role is actually not to trick us into doing what YOU think is best for us, or for you, or whomever.

8 posted on 11/10/2014 9:37:02 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MrB

I’ll repeat that.

POUND THIS UP THE DEMOCRAT’S ASSES EVERY CHANCE, EVERY DAY, WITHOUT LET UP.

Make them pay again and again.

Stop being meek, worthless obama ass kissers and beat the Nazi SOB down with this.


9 posted on 11/10/2014 9:37:51 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Kaslin

Lying Rat Bastids.......


10 posted on 11/10/2014 9:38:17 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Rummyfan
Congratulations Herr Gruber,you made the list.
11 posted on 11/10/2014 9:38:25 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Kaslin

Here is Jonathan Gruber, who got $400K as an Obamacare architect, contradicting himself on the Halbig (subsidies for ObamaCare enrollees) decision.

It begins with a clip of him lying on the Chris Matthews show Hardball.

Next there are clips with Gruber lecturing, this time using the truth, at a conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbD5iQQS5KA

It’s a minute thirty seconds


12 posted on 11/10/2014 9:38:42 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Let's begin impeaching unconstitutional Leftist judges, and remove them from the bench.)
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To: Kaslin

Idiots! They're all idiots!

13 posted on 11/10/2014 9:40:02 AM PST by Rocko
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To: Rummyfan
I swear..... I’m not making threats here.... but some of these b*st*rds ought to be swinging from lamp posts.

See tag line.

14 posted on 11/10/2014 9:40:48 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Rummyfan

I swear..... I’m not making threats here.... but some of these b*st*rds ought to be swinging from lamp posts.


That certainly wouldn’t break my heart. These people intentionally deceived and lied to the American people.


15 posted on 11/10/2014 9:41:09 AM PST by boycott
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To: Kaslin

One wonders if this belated disclosure had any effect on the Supreme Court decision to review the the legality of the federal exchanges.


16 posted on 11/10/2014 9:41:14 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Farmer Dean

17 posted on 11/10/2014 9:42:13 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Rummyfan

Many of them need to be swinging from lampposts. I am not sure that our citizens have the will to stop this fraud.


18 posted on 11/10/2014 9:42:56 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: dfwgator

Now that we have the piubies right where we want them we should be lighting f
fires under their a##es about this


19 posted on 11/10/2014 9:43:49 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit what could go wrong?)
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To: dfwgator

Huh? I thought Roberts said, “Yes, indeed, Obamacare IS a tax.”

How can you blame him for us not publicly excoriating the Obamacrats for instituting the most massive tax increase in history?


20 posted on 11/10/2014 9:44:26 AM PST by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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