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Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It Passed
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/10/2014 9:31:37 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
First of all, the Democrats voted for this against the public’s wishes because they knew best - just like this “professor”.

Second, for leftest, the ends always justifies the means. That's why leftest have little problem eventually killing people for their greater “good”.

41 posted on 11/10/2014 10:33:03 AM PST by DB
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Silly people. You actually think last week’s election MEANT something.

You’ve just handed the moderate wing of the Uniparty the keys to the treasure chest, and nothing more. They’ll be too busy voting themselves new largesse from the public treasury to care anything about you.

Silly, silly people.


42 posted on 11/10/2014 10:41:18 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Kaslin
Between now and the end of 2014 is the time to publicize Gruber's admissions in the home towns and districts of every single one of the Democrats--those defeated and others remaining in office--who supported Obamacare and voted for it.

That should be done especially in the communities like New Orleans, LA, where a race is still active.

Also, voters in North Carolina (Hagan) and Arkansas (Prior) should have their votes against Hagan, for instance, validated by the admission of this architect of the dishonesty called Obamacare and the future ills it continues to threaten for ordinary American citizens.

43 posted on 11/10/2014 10:41:56 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Kaslin
Spinonyms for "Bald Faced Lie" -
44 posted on 11/10/2014 10:43:14 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (Folks ask about my politics. I say: I dont belong to any organized political party. I'm a Republican)
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To: Rummyfan

An MIT professor so full of himself - or stupid - that he brags about tricking the American people? What an assh*le.... He’s as smart as he thinks he is... we’re all in on what a jerk he is now... I’ll bet his wife would leave him if she should someone who made the same money...


45 posted on 11/10/2014 10:50:36 AM PST by GOPJ ( MSNBC is left-wing radio with pictures. CNN's anchors are mostly tired, left-wing & smug.. -Nolte)
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To: logi_cal869
What do you mean bad source link? Don't tell me how to post article links, nubee

The Townhall.com is the source which goes directly to the article link

Next time stay out of stuff you don't have no clue of!!!

GOT IT?

46 posted on 11/10/2014 11:00:16 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats lie all the time.

And they wonder why Americans don’t have any trust in government and why people like me don’t bother to vote.

I mean the behavior of our political elites has bred not confidence in our leaders and belief they will do what is right for the country; its bred low regard for them paired with the perception that no matter what the people want or don’t want our leaders will do what is best for their own interests.

The Democrats haven’t learned from their massive defeat and Republicans need to keep that in mind or they will suffer the same fate as the Democrats in the next election. The American people are not stupid and don’t like being made fools of.


47 posted on 11/10/2014 11:03:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Of course they do. Lying comes natural to them


48 posted on 11/10/2014 11:06:20 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

I just wonder if he has a food taster and someone to start his car now that he’s outed himself?


49 posted on 11/10/2014 11:09:20 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

It wouldn’t surprise me if he did


50 posted on 11/10/2014 11:16:15 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: MrB

And how many lost jobs? How many now have part time jobs? How many businesses closed.?
How much suffering is going on?
And the dems just laugh.
Our country has suffered stress and pain ever since O and ried and pelosi and boener took charge. And now even with a win the rhinos are still in charge.
Thankfully this is God’s country and it is God they are trying to bring down. I for one am comfortable in His hands no matter what happens.


51 posted on 11/10/2014 11:36:04 AM PST by LookingUp
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To: dfwgator

I think FWIW that CJ Roberts was blackmailed. His two boys were adopted from overseas, and someone just called him up and threatened official action to take them away and repatriate them.


52 posted on 11/10/2014 11:36:25 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Kaslin

Gruber, grubber — great etymology, and emblematic, too.

Scum, all of them.


53 posted on 11/10/2014 11:40:57 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: LMAO

They aren’t. See Howell Raines’s Oct. 2008 article in Conde Nast’s “Portfolio”, which foretold the passage of a *national* healthcare law on a handshake deal at the top of both parties. Boehner has his hands dirty all the way up to his armpits.


54 posted on 11/10/2014 11:51:44 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Kaslin; All
Although the word “penalty” wasn’t used in the OP, who cares if constitutionally indefensible Obamacare Democratcare is politically defined as a tax or a penalty? The point is that the activist justices who gave the green light to Democratcare wrongly ignored that the Supreme Court had historically clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate healthcare purposes.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So in the absence of constitutionally explicit power to regulate intrastate healthcare, Congress cannot make laws which address intrastate healthcare in any way, regardless if such laws establish a tax or a penalty, any more than they can make laws to respect or prohibit religious expression, such laws expressly prohibited by the 1st Amendment.

In fact, note that the Supreme Court had also historically clarified in general, and in terms of the 10th Amendment, that powers not expressly granted to the feds via the Constitution by the states, the power to regulate intrastate healthcare in this example, are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

Interestingly, note that a former member of Congress had repeatedly introduced a resolution for Congress to propose an intrastate healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states in compliance with the Constitution’s Article V. The member had done so long before (and after) Speaker Nancy Pelosi hypocritically ignored her oath to protect and defend the Constitution by irresponsibly ramming Democratcare through the House of Representatives, Pelosi evidently ignoring the resolution.

"Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States regarding the right of citizens of the United States to health care of equal high quality." —H. J. Res. 30.

Finally, I don’t call voters stupid since corrupt Democrats intentionally deceived the voters imo. But did Mr. Gruber stupidly make himself an accessory to treason by helping Democrats to deceive the voters?

55 posted on 11/10/2014 11:58:53 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: lentulusgracchus; LMAO

More to my last, the Chamber, Business Roundtable, and business generally, all want employee healthcare to go away — permanently, and the Dems to get the blame. Some people think they threw the 2008 and even the 2012 elections, to make sure the ‘Rats got it done.


56 posted on 11/10/2014 12:00:18 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Rummyfan
I swear..... I’m not making threats here.... but some of these b*st*rds ought to be swinging from lamp posts.

Every single last one of 'em, including all cabinet members, anyone in the House & Senate who voted for it, and those USSC members who illegally expanded the Court's constitutional responsibility to transform the bill into a "tax" and force it on the American people.

Every single one of em should be tarred, feathered and hung by their necks. That would be justice.

58 posted on 11/10/2014 12:07:23 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Rummyfan

we could call it “The day of the rope”


59 posted on 11/10/2014 12:09:59 PM PST by jrd
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To: sjmjax

That is an acceptable alternative if done with large numbers, at least once a week.

Medieval style racking would be even better.


60 posted on 11/10/2014 12:52:22 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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