Posted on 10/18/2014 1:24:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble
The master document on the CDC website was changed today sometime between 1000 and 1500 hours.
The section titled "Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)" which until this morning specified "gown, gloves, mask, and face shield" has been deleted, and replaced with "PPE Recommendations are forthcoming"
And there is actually a much worse scenario then that possible.
The CDC still has no idea what the medical staff needs to wear for protection.
Dr Tom Freiden said ther is no need for head to toe protection.
He advises aginst head to toe protection.
Transcript from Kelly File interview with Freiden:
KELLY: But I looked at the website and it says, you are only supposed to wear one pair of gloves. And it says, you don’t have to cover your head, you know, head gear, head cover, and you don’t have to cover your feet. Now, wouldn’t you admit that that is insufficient?
FRIEDEN: No. We know how Ebola spreads. It spreads by direct contact. And you know, sometimes more isn’t better. You put on more layers, you put on more things, they’re harder to get on. They’re harder to get off.
KELLY: Really?
FRIEDEN: Yes, really.
KELLY: You would go into a highly infected Ebola patient’s room without covering your head, with only wearing one pair of gloves and with your feet exposed? You would do that?
FRIEDEN: Absolutely. More is not always better. Better is better. Sometimes you put on more layers, it’s harder to put on, harder to take off, you increase your risk of exposure. That’s what the science tells us.
airborne
on page 117 (not 177)of manual
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216775/posts
did cdc finally talk to army?
Ooops!
Sort of like how my tagline used to be on their site.
The CDC guidelines are written by “old boy” clubs (composed of insiders, not just “boys”) who have their sinecures and are not about to listen to outsiders.
Their guidelines for removing PPE are faulty and they have been told this for 10 years by nursing groups and others—but they refuse to change them. (The WHO has good guidelines here.)
They released guidelines last week telling hospitals to sterilizer Ebola-related medical waste using “appropriate autoclaves.” Of course the only autoclaves that most hospitals have are not medical waste sterilizers but those in the “clean” reprocessing areas used to sterilize medical devices. A hospital that uses those will not only fail to sterilize the waste but will contaminate all their sterile supplies and devices with waste. The CDC was warned about this statement before they issued these trite, useless guidelines. I guess the CDC’s operating motivation is to do something even if it makes the situation worse.
Idiots...
Everybody knows that the best way to avoid getting Ebola, besides encouraging travel from effected Countries, is to Not wear a hazmat suit.
Hazmat suits can actually CAUSE the virus to spread, you see?
Everybody knows that, now stop being a racist...
The new czar (aka stimulus check writer) is going through the donor$ list.
We’ve given the CDC $29+ BILLION since 2003.
“We’ve always been at war with eastasia...”
But, considering where chocolate comes from, they are going to have a hard time increasing the chocolate ration. Or, well, probably not.
“We’ve given the CDC $29+ BILLION since 2003.”
See? Dems have pointed out that this isn’t enough.
I’m all over going Bronson.
Please call congress and tell them that we must be deadly serious about containing Ebola by strict quarantine within the United States and from infected nations. This is our right and our duty and it is THEIR duty to protect US.
Capitol switchboard is 202-224-3121 or Google your congressman or senator and get his contact information and call him / her office directly. You can also call or go to their local offices.
I believe decisive response is urgent because you can’t put this Ebola genie back in the bottle once it gets out. It is a fire, it consumes all the fuel it can get and the fuel is people. The only way to stop a fire is to block it from the fuel or cool it with water. A vaccine or medicine to treat Ebola would be the water and we don’t have reliable, enough or any.
Every possible measure must be taken to stop the spread before draconian measures are imposed. What is being done now is sloppy. We are walking a dangerous road. The threat is blossoming by the day if not hour. Almost every hour there is some new Ebola development and none of them are good. This is a serious and potentially deadly event. Unchecked it could destroy or weaken the United States and facilitate our destruction by others. It has that potential for every country and that is why so many are responding with such strict quarantines. These consequences, no matter how small the probabilities, demand a full effort and significant response.
Ebola is being spread here in the United States right now. First Texas, then Ohio then? Terror is an excellent weapon. It disrupts, confuses, paralyzes and destroys a society. Many others and we on FR have speculated that terrorists may spread Ebola. How do you that remember 9/11 feel right now compared to what you felt then? Do you want to gather your loved ones near you to protect them? I do. Even more than I did on September 11, 2001! Isn’t this passive response by this administration accomplishing the very same things a terrorist would want?
When something is being done that makes as little sense as what Obama is doing there has to be some other reason. I leave it to you dear reader to draw your own conclusions as to the reasons.
What is happening now is insane. It makes no sense at all. For example the head of CDC says: “Stopping travel from Africa won’t do any good because you have to get people into Africa to fight Ebola.” “You can’t get Ebola from an infected person on a bus but an infected person should never be on a bus because he can infect others.” “Blocking travel from infected countries would damage their fragile economies.” What about ours? What about our safety? What about resources we have paid for that should be protecting us?
Even the most despotic dictatorship in Africa has acted to protect his nation by strict quarantine and stopping travel from infected countries. Even CDC, the UN and WHO advocate and credit strict quarantine for nipping the spread of Ebola in the bud at the source in places like Senegal and Nigeria where both have had faster and more successful outbreak controls than we have had here. 35 countries have stopped travel of people from infected West African countries. It is so obvious even a child could understand it so why is it OK for people from infected countries to travel here?
I will post this message and keep posting it until someone stops me.
For further reference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216461/posts
The idiots are making this up as they go. The reason has to be nefarious. Nobody is this stupid except on purpose.
Please call congress and tell them that we must be deadly serious about containing Ebola by strict quarantine within the United States and from infected nations. This is our right and our duty and it is THEIR duty to protect US.
Capitol switchboard is 202-224-3121 or Google your congressman or senator and get his contact information and call him / her office directly. You can also call or go to their local offices.
I believe decisive response is urgent because you can’t put this Ebola genie back in the bottle once it gets out. It is a fire, it consumes all the fuel it can get and the fuel is people. The only way to stop a fire is to block it from the fuel or cool it with water. A vaccine or medicine to treat Ebola would be the water and we don’t have reliable, enough or any.
Every possible measure must be taken to stop the spread before draconian measures are imposed. What is being done now is sloppy. We are walking a dangerous road. The threat is blossoming by the day if not hour. Almost every hour there is some new Ebola development and none of them are good. This is a serious and potentially deadly event. Unchecked it could destroy or weaken the United States and facilitate our destruction by others. It has that potential for every country and that is why so many are responding with such strict quarantines. These consequences, no matter how small the probabilities, demand a full effort and significant response.
Ebola is being spread here in the United States right now. First Texas, then Ohio then? Terror is an excellent weapon. It disrupts, confuses, paralyzes and destroys a society. Many others and we on FR have speculated that terrorists may spread Ebola. How do you that remember 9/11 feel right now compared to what you felt then? Do you want to gather your loved ones near you to protect them? I do. Even more than I did on September 11, 2001! Isn’t this passive response by this administration accomplishing the very same things a terrorist would want?
When something is being done that makes as little sense as what Obama is doing there has to be some other reason. I leave it to you dear reader to draw your own conclusions as to the reasons.
What is happening now is insane. It makes no sense at all. For example the head of CDC says: “Stopping travel from Africa won’t do any good because you have to get people into Africa to fight Ebola.” “You can’t get Ebola from an infected person on a bus but an infected person should never be on a bus because he can infect others.” “Blocking travel from infected countries would damage their fragile economies.” What about ours? What about our safety? What about resources we have paid for that should be protecting us?
Even the most despotic dictatorship in Africa has acted to protect his nation by strict quarantine and stopping travel from infected countries. Even CDC, the UN and WHO advocate and credit strict quarantine for nipping the spread of Ebola in the bud at the source in places like Senegal and Nigeria where both have had faster and more successful outbreak controls than we have had here. 35 countries have stopped travel of people from infected West African countries. It is so obvious even a child could understand it so why is it OK for people from infected countries to travel here?
I will post this message and keep posting it until someone stops me.
For further reference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216461/posts
Also this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3216502/posts
How did he get through medical school?
Why do they use “space suits” in Bio-hazard level 4 labs?
Airborne vs not airborne is a definitional ruse. To us common folk if you can get a sufficient dose of the virus to cause infection by inhaling a 1 micron(10,000 angstroms)invisible droplet that can contain 12 Ebola viruses while 10 is thought to be sufficient to infect, then it is airborne enough.
We are being treated like we have an IQs under 70.
Bio hazard containment facilities reject the CDC protocols.
They wear full head to toe coverage.
The CDC opposed the use of such protection at Dallas Presyb.
$29B is enough money to but every single American adult a Tyvek F suit and PAPR system and a butt load of bleach
They’re bureaucrats. Bureaucrats promote bureaucracy. Prevent infectious disease? Mundane - give us the money for that, and we’ll reduce smoking and obesity with the money.
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