Posted on 09/30/2014 1:18:59 PM PDT by presidio9
So if I hire someone to kill my wife, I’m not a killer, the hitman is?
Far better answer than the one that I just provided.
This is the one that I will use from now on. So thanks.
Charles Johnson = the biggest loser in the history of the internet
You are forgetting some women are forced into abortions. Either by sex trafficking or by family. You will hear them say “I felt like I had no choice”, my husband, boyfriend, parents wanted me to abort and the pressure was too much. What about them? What we need is out overturn roe vs wade. and the other doe vs boulton. let it go back to the states. Most states had it illegal anyway.
Do you believe this? Are you pro-abortion?
It was foolish of him to say this, it doesn’t help.
AFTER we hang kalid sheik mohommed, et al, we can consider who else should swing.
Do you offer the same forgiveness to all others who commit murder and other crimes? If not, why not?
What happens to the so-called fathers?
I remember someone saying about Robert Bork, during his confirmation, "If he would just shut up!"
Good points. If only Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin had understood these very basic political facts.
And yet, what he said has provoked some intriguing consideration of just how off base the comment (stand alone and out of context) might have been?
I would initially agree with you. But a poster did make a logical point in pointing out; If you believe abortion is the intentional killing of a human life, then that is murder. If you also support capital punishment for premeditaded murder, then you might be expected to support the execution of the mother who seeks out the abortion.
Mind you, I am not suggesting I support what was said. But I am pointing out that, as proof on this thread, the comment was not "needlessly provocative".
“So if I hire someone to kill my wife, I’m not a killer, the hitman is?”
I like that one now think of it in this terms.
A man gets a woman pregnant. Then is upset with HER because she is pregnant and wants HER to abort his baby. The baby he help and mind you willing created. He puts pressure on her sometimes through threats and intimidation. Finally she does it. What does he do? Goes back with her and does the same process all over again.
Stupid. Just stupid.
I believe most of those women will, in their heart of hearts, die a thousand deaths over their lifetime, every time they think about what they did.
That just might be the worst punishment of all.
Are you having some difficulty with the words "the first step," or is it just that you don't understand the basic concepts of political messenging?
This is exactly the sort of stuff that conservatives need to stay away from during the election cycle.
Every woman who has had an abortion is welcomed in confession. Every catholic woman can go to confession
And that’s the sacramental form of forgiveness, which is available if one asks for it (from Jesus) and changes ( repents)
The boys too, the so called dads
None of that truth is convenient to the greedy abortion profiteers
IF they are involved in the decision to murder their child, then the legal (and correct) definition is accessory to murder.
This conversation we’re having here? On this thread? Some on the fence will argue that THIS is why abortion will never be illegal. That by strictly defining it as we do can only mean that mothers who aborted and the doctors that performed the abortions should be tried for murder.
Much in the same way the Nazi’s were after WWII.
And I don’t have a problem with that.
Not. One. Single. Problem.
“Do you offer the same forgiveness to all others who commit murder and other crimes? If not, why not? “
I most certainly do.
In fact search FR records on what I said of Jeff Dahmer. He converted to Christianity and was baptized in prison before he was murdered. If Jesus forgives him then I forgive him. May God have mercy on his soul and I will be happy to see him in Heaven.
Same goes for David Berkowitz, who I have read that he also converted to Christianity and was baptized.
It was his opponent who used the word “hanged”
Williamson simply said abortion is homocide.
Given the context, it certainly was. Or do you believe that Williamson was somehow going to make Charles Johnson see the light on this issue.
The places for philosophical conversations such as this one are in private and in forums like FR. Not in public arguments with dweebs from Little Green Footballs. Williamson let himself get played. That's what's most disturbing to me about this whole episode.
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