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Why Republicans may not win the Senate after all
blogs.reuters.com ^ | 9/29/14 | Craig Shirley

Posted on 09/29/2014 8:35:23 AM PDT by cotton1706

Establishment Republicans should keep the champagne on ice until after the midterm elections. Too many are already popping corks, pronouncing their strategy of “crushing” the Tea Party during the primaries as a crucial step in their successful takeover of the U.S. Senate.

There are increasing signs, however, that the GOP might not take control of the Senate and may only make modest gains in the House of Representatives. In states like North Carolina, for example, the GOP candidate hasn’t shown the ability to wage a major-league campaign. In other key battleground states, the establishment GOP is supporting problematic candidates, like Monica Wehby in Oregon, who can alternatively be described as pro-Obamacare and a plagiarist. The National Republican Senatorial Committee handpicked Wehby over a strong conservative in the primary. She is now running 20 points behind.

In Kansas, the GOP Senate nominee, incumbent Senator Pat Roberts, seems to consider Virginia his home because that is his only permanent residence. A sizable number of Virginia Republican voters, meanwhile, aren’t going for Ed Gillespie, former Republican National Committee chairman, who is the GOP nominee there, either.

National polls show the GOP to be about as popular as the heartbreak of psoriasis. The Democrats, for all their faults (and they are many) remain more popular. Republicans are not for anything. They are defined as simply being against President Barack Obama and certainly not for any form of federalism.

FILE PHOTO OF FORMER U.S PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN.Since the 1950s, beginning with the rise of Senator Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley’s National Review, there has been a war for the soul of the GOP. But this time is different. The establishment Republicans loath the conservative-Reaganite-Tea Party-reformer-populists, viewing them as a serious threat. They stand as an indictment against the entire GOP insider culture.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2014senateraces; elections; kansassenaterace; ncsenaterace; oregonsenaterace; senateraces
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To: Maceman

Ted Cruz vs. Hillary Clinton would be the fight for life. That would be an incredible race. It would be nasty though. I would not even begin to guess who would win. I know the liberals are not cheering for Hilary right now but I think they would get right in line. I know the GOPE would not want Ted Cruz but eventually would get behind him. It would be an incredible race.


81 posted on 09/29/2014 11:20:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator (I guarantee every FRiend Misses the lost opportunity of a President Santorum!)
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To: napscoordinator

I actually think Hillary would be pretty easy to beat by a knowledgeable, articulate conservative who isn’t afraid to take her on and who refuses to be cowed by the Democrat-induced requirement to remain politically correct.

I think Cruz would mop the floor with her.


82 posted on 09/29/2014 11:24:08 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Political Junkie Too

I call your attention to reelection rates for incumbents in Congress. The deck is stacked very heavily in their favor.


83 posted on 09/29/2014 11:26:04 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: DiogenesLamp

I always wondered why people, handed shovels and told to dig their own graves, cooperated with their murderers. There is plenty of photographic evidence and first hand accounts to verify this phenomena. Could it really be the victim expected a last minute reprieve, or they would be spared if they cooperated, or that even just a few minutes of extra life was worth the humiliation and satisfaction they gave their executioners? I have always thought that if given that shovel, I would use it as a weapon and if anything, die with satisfaction that my killer would have to do his own grave digging.

It seems to me that those who have surrendered to the GOPe believe they will never again be asked to dig their own graves. The GOPe wants the opposition destroyed permanently and I suspect many were secretly rooting for the IRS.


84 posted on 09/29/2014 11:27:07 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

A GOP controlled Congress shouldn’t focus on an outright repeal of Obamacare. It will never happen.

What they should do is a death of a thousand cuts on it. Start passing “fixes” that have popular support, but are really poison pills designed to undermine and undercut it.

Make the Congressional Dems vote on those. Heck, embed the poison pills into larger bills that have even more popular support and make the Dems vote on those.

Send them up for Obama to veto. Use opposition and vetoes as opportunities to draw solid contrasts for 2016. Beat the eventual Dem nominee over the head with them.


85 posted on 09/29/2014 11:29:49 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Political Junkie Too

The problem is that census rules and redistricting will mean there will never be a “next cycle”.


86 posted on 09/29/2014 11:34:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DiogenesLamp

There’s not much of a whirlwind is there? I’m not even sure that it rates as a fart in church. The only Republican incumbent Senator who is in trouble is Senator Pat Roberts and his problem has to do with his indifference to the state that elected him, not his voting record which is well within the conservative range.


87 posted on 09/29/2014 11:42:01 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
What some people say is simply quite amazing. Thanks.

No, THANK YOU.

You know what I find amazing? I find it amazing that party hacks completely and deliberately IGNORE the fact that the GOP leadership has declared Conservatives an enemy to be destroyed and have publicly vowed to 'crush them' and wage war on them.

I find it amazing that the same hacks who ignore the GOP Leadership's record, spend so much time attempting to shame principled Conservatives on forum boards and social media if they are not towing the party-line.

I find it amazing that those same people spend so much time attempting to intimidate Conservatives into voting for a party whose leadership has worked to destroy them, their principles and their platform.

I find those who value 'the political game' of empty promises and the status-quo over principles quite amazing.

Amazing that such people can be so deceived, and work so hard to deceive others into supporting a party and their candidates that hate them more than the Democrats do.

88 posted on 09/29/2014 12:50:31 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: centurion316
There’s not much of a whirlwind is there? I’m not even sure that it rates as a fart in church. The only Republican incumbent Senator who is in trouble is Senator Pat Roberts and his problem has to do with his indifference to the state that elected him, not his voting record which is well within the conservative range.

Whether they reap a whirlwind will depend on whether others are astute enough to realize that they need to. And that notion reminds me of this.

And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

89 posted on 09/29/2014 1:02:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: longtermmemmory
There is no redistricting in the Senate.

-PJ

90 posted on 09/29/2014 1:21:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: roamer_1
What are you going to do to make SURE there is a Conservative in the race.....force them at Gunpoint????

For goodness sake, Haven't you ever heard "you go to war with the military you have, not with the military you WISH you had!!

Also, another apt saying..."Choose from your choices"!!!

Looks like we'll have Harry Reid for another few years!!! IDIOCY!

91 posted on 09/29/2014 1:43:34 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
Haven't you ever heard "you go to war with the military you have, not with the military you WISH you had!!

Not if your army is full of traitors. The enemy in front of me is no where near as dangerous as the enemy behind me.

Also, another apt saying..."Choose from your choices"!!!

If my choices are between two liberals, one wearing a 'D', and one wearing an 'R', the only sane choice is to not choose either one. Give me someone to vote *FOR*, not against.

Looks like we'll have Harry Reid for another few years!!! IDIOCY!

No, 'idiocy' is voting in support of yet another liberal Republican. That is why we are where we are. Liberalism succeeds ONLY because it has no opposition. Your pragmatism will be the death of us all.

92 posted on 09/29/2014 1:54:07 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Ann Archy
You're projecting again.

"you go to war with the military you have, not with the military you WISH you had!!

With leaders like Boehner and McConnell who have declared WAR on us and vowed to crush us wherever we are found - Conservatives are not going to enlist in their army any longer. They will just abandon us to the enemy and slaughter us in our sleep. So, your 'military' is no longer an army we will be part of any longer, because your 'military' serves only itself or the enemy.

"Choose from your choices"!!!

They are NOT our choices are they? They are decidedly the Rockafeller/Rove choices made for us. NO THANKS.

What did McConnell say? They will 'make sure they do not have a single (Conservative) candidate on the ballot'.

We will make our own choices, not suffer what is force-fed to us by the Ruling Class Oligarchy. We will write-in Conservatives.

Looks like we'll have Harry Reid for another few years!!! IDIOCY!

You can blame your party leadership for that.

Perhaps learn spanish and canvass Mexicans to get the votes your party's Ruling Class stooges need to "win". That is whom they said are the future of their party anyway. You obviously don't need Conservatives. Good luck without us.

93 posted on 09/29/2014 2:01:50 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: cotton1706
It would be really, really nice if the GOPee Establishment Elite would pound the Democrats with the vigor they have warred with conservatives within the party. I know what you GOPee Elites are thinking: where will they go on election day? They'll vote GOPee because the other candidates are either Libertarian or Democrat. [Hint: or the base won't vote at all and you won't be getting all those swanky committee chairs you were planning to get.] Primary elections have consequences for the general election, morons.
94 posted on 09/29/2014 2:47:23 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: cotton1706; All

Thad Cochran and Haley Barbour, with Mitch McConnell and Pat Roberts working behind the scenes to help them, robbed a decent young Conservative of a Senate seat and disenfranchised the votes of tens of thousands of “true” Conservatives by paying Black Democrats to cross over and vote in the Mississippi GOP Primary run-off. And it absolutely amazes me how many FReepers, on this website, think that Tea Partiers and other true Conservatives should vote for scum bags like that. They need to grow a pair.


95 posted on 09/29/2014 4:13:42 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

think census laws.


96 posted on 09/29/2014 4:18:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: roamer_1

“What these will never understand is that Conservatism, founded in principle, is a way of life, not a political position. The unmovable principles of Conservatism are what causes Conservatives to band together and what causes them to vote. Take away the principles, and there is a clarion call no longer, and all the hand-wringing, throwing of dust in the air, and pointing at Sasquatch will make no difference at all.”

Beautiful! Thank God some still understand.


97 posted on 09/29/2014 4:20:38 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (RINO VOTES DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE: THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR DEMOCRAT INITIATIVES.)
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To: centurion316

It’s worse.

An enemy in the field is not near as dangerous as a traitor in your ranks. They wear your uniform, they eat your food and then they shoot you in the back.

Why don’t you come spend a few months in Afghanistan. I think you’ll see the light.

Oh, that’s right! You’re just talking politics. It’s not like RINOs who vote to train and arm terrorists are killing us...

I don’t believe you understand the consequences of your cavalier abandonment of principle. Why don’t you try a stint at Dover AFB mortuary services and see the results of your strategy.


98 posted on 09/29/2014 4:32:43 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (RINO VOTES DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE: THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR DEMOCRAT INITIATIVES.)
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To: Ann Archy

Should have pinged you to 98 as well. You are certainly hung ho for RINOs.

And though I can’t speak as a military member, I just wanted to say, “Thanks for your support.”


99 posted on 09/29/2014 4:37:56 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (RINO VOTES DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE: THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR DEMOCRAT INITIATIVES.)
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To: longtermmemmory
What about them?

Arizona (McCain): 73% white, 4% black, 5% native American, 3% Asian, Hispanic 30% (combined with others). Romney 54%, Obama 44%.

Mississippi (Cochran): 59% white, 37% black, 1% Asian. Romney 55%, Obama 44%.

Kentucky (McConnell): 86% white, 8% black, 3% Hispanic, 1% Asian. Romney 60%, Obama 38%.

Utah (Hatch): 86% white, 2% Asian, 1% black. Romney 73%, Obama 25%.

Tennessee (Alexander): 78% white, 17% black, 1% Asian. Romney 59%, Obama 39%.

Wyoming (Enzi): 93% white, 3% native American, 1% black, 1% Asian. Romney 69%, Obama 28%.

Oklahoma (Inhofe): 72% white, 9% native American, 7% black, 2% Asian, Romney 67%, Obama 33%.

Do you really expect "census" to change this during the next cycle?

-PJ

100 posted on 09/29/2014 4:42:58 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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