Why Republicans may not win the Senate after all

blogs.reuters.com ^ | 9/29/14 | Craig Shirley

[txhurl]

The GOPe doesn’t ‘get’ messages, or haven’t you learned that yet? Wouldn’t it be more satisfying to you to watch Cruz slowly strip them of their power, like stripping the skin off a catfish, than listening to the new RAT senator blabber on that you helped elect by staying home?

[RetiredArmy]

No more voting for RINOs ever, under any circumstances. Period.

That has been my rule for several elections now. I did not vote for the Mormon. Not because he was Mormon, but because he is a flaming liberal in my humble opinion. I have long ago decided that I will only vote for those that come close to believing to what I believe and stand for. They don't have to meet everything I believe, but some areas are important and I will not give those up, but in general, I will vote if they are close. I skip those races that I simply cannot hold my nose for and pull the leaver. I no longer hold my nose. If they stink, I jump over them and move on. I will vote for my Senator, Jeff Sessions this election. Our other senator is an EX-liberal dimocrat, and I have not and will not vote for him. Simply will not. Never will. Ain't gonna do it. He is an idiot and I refuse to vote for idiots. GWB was the last person that I voted for holding my nose. I just did not think he was the man for the job, nor any of the others. But I voted for him because of Algore and then the Vietnam Vet Kerry. I hated both of them. I knew nothing about Obama except he was a liberal dimocrat and I don't vote for dimocrats. Ask my cousin, who is our county sheriff. I would not vote for him because he was a dimocrat. I am debating whether to vote for him this election because he has jumped parties and become a republican. Why? Because he was afraid that he would be held accountable for Obama by voters so he jumped. Did he jump because he changed, or was afraid of losing his job? I say the latter, thus am still arguing with myself over whether to vote for him.

[DiogenesLamp]

Republicans are not for anything. They are defined as simply being against President Barack Obama

At this stage, that's frickin' good enough for me.

I will remind you what happened in Europe after the Allies let Hitler invade the Sudetenland. You can't appease tyranny. You have to fight it.

The current crowd we have are appeasers. We need fighters.

[centurion316]

The brilliance of your plan is quite remarkable. It’s like nothing never seen in politics before. The pathway to victory is by losing. “We won’t win and you can’t make us.” I’m sure your plan is going to put more conservatives in office than we will know what to do with.

[DiogenesLamp]

The primary campaign against McDaniel, embraced by the RINO establishment, is the bridge too far.

Agree. The Establishment needs to burn for that, and the nation cannot afford to let them get away with it.

[INVAR]

No it isn’t.......we are now a Circular Firing Squad!!!

Go complain to your GOP leadership pals on that score. They shot us in the back while we thought we were safe in their camp.

They are the ones who declared war on us, vowed to 'crush us' wherever we are found so we are unable to field a single candidate on any ballot anywhere in a general election.

With a party leadership like that, who needs Democrat enemies when the GOP is doing more to destroy Conservatives than Obama is?

What idiot is going to vote for a party that declares war on them?

Apparently there's a lot of battered wife syndrome out there. I'm cured of that disease now. GOP, DNC - not a penny's difference between 'em. Let them go the way of the Whigs.

[DiogenesLamp]

The house has voted and passed hundreds of bills that were simply killed by Harry Reid.

Sure. And were Mitch McConnell (Traitor/Backstabber from Kentucky) in charge, still no bills would get passed because Obama would veto them.

Its simple civics, something I used to think conservatives were relatively knowledgeable about.

Unless you can get 60 votes, you can't override a veto. This is no longer about politics, but about Principle. Something I used to think conservatives were relatively knowledgeable about.

[cripplecreek]

The Michigan legislature is nearly all RINO but we’ve gotten a lot of good out of them. Things like RTW and the elimination of the business property tax come to mind.

[DiogenesLamp]

That was a great expression of the frustration and concerns I believe many of us have and have reached the same conclusions. They have had more than enough chances. I can no longer do anything to support a GOPe candidate or party. That doesn’t mean I’m helping their opponent unless that opponent is conservative, and it is remotely possible though highly unlikely that could include a Democrat.

I will point out that Travis Childers (Democrat Senate Candidate from Mississippi) is both Pro-Life and Pro-Gun. If McDaniel does not get that fraudulent primary election over turned, I would advise everyone in Mississippi to vote for the Democrat.

We can't afford to let Cochran/McConnell get away with their backstabbing. Making an example out of them is far more important than getting a useless majority in the Senate.

[Cincinatus]

Then go vote for your fighters — and watch the tyrants win elections.

[INVAR]

The pathway to victory is by losing. “We won’t win and you can’t make us.” I’m sure your plan is going to put more conservatives in office than we will know what to do with.

According to the GOP leadership, the pathway to victory is to crush conservatives wherever they are found, and to champion Obama's agenda as their own.

Maybe they can get enough Mexican voters to make up for those of us Conservatives who will no longer voter for a RINO, no matter what.

Clearly your party has already embraced the doctrine that says the pathway to victory is by losing.

They declared war on Conservatives. Let's see if they can win 'anything' without us, since they hate us as much as if not more than the MarxoFascist Democrats do.

[Maceman]

So you'd rather have someone like Hillary as president? Just to feed your sense of outrage?

It's not about my sense of outrage. It's about taking the drastic steps now that our only (admittedly slim) hopes of turning this country around.

Explain to me how President Romney, Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader McConnell are going to save us.

I don't think you read my whole post (I understand why, it's long). Either that, or you are just in serious denial.

Although I wrote with passion, I believe I have clearly stated actual reasons for my position. If you disagree, that is of course, your right.

But how many times are you going to fall for the same crap from the GOPe?

[INVAR]

GOP tyrants like McConnell and Boehner are not a shred different than Reid or Obama.

They are all Ruling Class oligarchs.

We will vote for our fighters because all of the above have declared Conservatives their enemy and are waging a war of corruption and fraud against us.

The GOP Ruling Class is every bit as tyrannical and despotic as the Marxofascist Democrats are.

[DiogenesLamp]

They’re still stuck in PRIMARYVILLE, which for them isn’t over.

No dude. You are deliberately misrepresenting what this is about. This is not about the Primary, this is about using vile and despicable tactics to permanently damage the reform movement.

I do not think you grasp just how willing is the national media to portray anyone who is against Democrats as RACIST HATERS!!!! They have been attempting for years to link the Reform movement to the Ku Klux Klan and White Supremacist movements. They would gleefully photograph anyone who showed up at a Tea Party Rally with some racist message, and they would make that infiltrator/provocateur the poster boy for the movement.

We expect the Liberal Democrat Media to use vicious hateful lying tactics, but what we cannot possibly tolerate is members of our own party using these same disgusting vile tactics.

It is not about the primary. Had they won it fair and square, there would be no bad blood, but there is bad blood because they took out a knife and slid it in between our rib cage.

Now they have made it our solemn DUTY to wipe them out. Burning the architects of this deliberate smear campaign is in the interests of the nation. Without the Tea Party Reform movement, the nation will not correct it's descent into insanity. We have to destroy these people to save the reform movement, because if this stands, the slander will just get worse next time, and the movement will be finished.

America will not support a racist movement.

[cripplecreek]

In reality, getting a simple majority is usually enough to get a few aisle crossers to vote with the majority. As far as Obama vetoes are concerned, Its easy to threaten vetoes when his own party seldom sends him anything to veto. Its a whole different ball game when the majority party does send you bills. Plus there are committee control and appointments.

This whole, “The GOP doesn’t do anything” strategy was one Nancy Pelosi used from 2008 to 2010. She held full control and refused to allow bill after GOP bill to even come to the floor. Then when the 2010 election came around, the democrats ran on the fact that the GOP didn’t do anything.

You should be very happy, the democrats have joined you in destroying the GOP. I got a call from an “Independent conservative” group two days ago encouraging me to sit this election out to teach the GOP that my vote isn’t to be taken for granted. They lied to me about my congressman’s record and finally closed by saying that the democrat running against him is actually quite conservative.

[DiogenesLamp]

The GOPe doesn’t ‘get’ messages, or haven’t you learned that yet? Wouldn’t it be more satisfying to you to watch Cruz slowly strip them of their power, like stripping the skin off a catfish, than listening to the new RAT senator blabber on that you helped elect by staying home?

If someone punched you in the nose, would you be content to go home and wait for Karma to punish them?

I think i'd rather just beat them down until they couldn't get up, and leave Karma to less important matters.

The Tea Party might not be big enough to win outright, but it's d***ed sure big enough to cost them the election if they pick a fight with it.

Whatever happened to this?

What do you expect us to do after they trod on us?

[DiogenesLamp]

The brilliance of your plan is quite remarkable. It’s like nothing never seen in politics before. The pathway to victory is by losing. “We won’t win and you can’t make us.” I’m sure your plan is going to put more conservatives in office than we will know what to do with.

Mockery huh? I direct your attention to the highly successful tactics of the NRA. If the Republican sells them out, they vote for the Democrat opponent. If the Democrat sells them out, they vote for the Republican opponent. Over time, they have trained both parties not to sell them out, and after decades of work, they now have both parties willing to do anything to stay in their good graces.

Incrementally and by steady pressure is how you win a war. Selling out your principles for a seemingly quick victory is how you lose in the long run. We are out to win the war, not a battle.

[DiogenesLamp]

Then go vote for your fighters — and watch the tyrants win elections.

You mean unlike they have been doing so far?

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

The House controls the purse strings. The GOP-controlled House could vote to defund Obamacare.

Of course, that would take both guts and backbone, which are sorely lacking in the present-day GOP, with a few exceptions.

[Maceman]

The pathway to victory is by losing. “We won’t win and you can’t make us.” I’m sure your plan is going to put more conservatives in office than we will know what to do with.

Yeah. Cause your plan has worked out so brilliantly -- two terms for Obama, continued Democrat control of the Senate. Republicans wouldn't even have the House if it wasn't for the conservative voters in 2010.

And your strategy worked out real well even as far back as 1996, when Bob Dole couldn't even beat the biggest and most scandal-ridden incumbent scumbag of the 20th century.

So tell me. What's your pathway to victory? Seems to me that your approach is to lose by winning. Can you say Pyrrhic victory?

Even now the Republican leadership is lowering expectations about what they'll do if they take the Senate in 2014.

And maybe you missed this latest gem about what John McCain is saying will happen if the Republicans win the Senate: “I will work very hard to go back to 60 votes,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who boldly predicts a Republican Senate would process Obama’s nominees “more rapidly than [Democrats] do today.”

So tell me how much better off we'll be with your brilliant idea.

I mean really.