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A Lesbian’s Eyes Opened: ‘You Don't Hate Us!’
Townhall.com ^ | September 28, 2014 | Matt Barber

Posted on 09/28/2014 6:45:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: GeronL

It is ridiculous. Tell your niece, “You feel like you, and you are a girl. Therefore, you feel like a girl. Anyone who tells you that a girl can’t be like you is not your friend.”


21 posted on 09/28/2014 7:41:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I can play the piano just as well with or without shoes.)
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To: Ditter
She wished she could go back and ignore those who had lured her into it.

Maybe she could go back, if she chose to.

That's Satan's other ploy--to convince people who have taken the wrong path that they can't go back.

22 posted on 09/28/2014 7:42:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Kaslin

Human sexuality is complicated. To start with, human determination of sexuality is far more complex than that of other mammals, even though the same biological rules apply.

That is, about halfway through gestation, a normal male mammal fetus excretes a small amount of testosterone from its testes, that travels to its brain and tells it, it is a “male” brain. If that testosterone does not arrive, the brain is by default “female”.

However, this hormone can be chemically blocked, or artificially added. This means the animals genitalia will be of one sex, but its brain will tell it that it is of the other sex.

This is enough to determine sexuality in animals, BUT NOT PEOPLE. A boy with this condition may be effeminate, but the odds are he will be heterosexual, to the typical ratio, that is, a 2% or less chance of being a homosexual. Likewise, a girl with this condition may be a “tomboy”, but she will also likely be only attracted to men.

Scientists in the 1960s, and then again in the 1980s, did extensive animal experiments with this, even to the point of giving only one hemisphere of a fetus’ brain testosterone, so when it grew up it exhibited bisexual mating behavior.

So, where does this leave us?

Well, it’s a first step. But the next step is a scary one.

There are many chemicals, natural and artificial, that can mimic testosterone or block it. And this was where the research both times went.

Farmers have long used plant estrogen to stimulate growth and increase yield, and there was concern that it could block testosterone in male fetuses. This didn’t prove to be the case. Of greater concern are hormonal replacement drugs that are excreted in urine, which are then recycled as effluent and reused as drinking water, since water filters do not remove the hormone from water.

In any event, there hasn’t been a marked increase in effeminate boys or tomboy girls, but there are, quite likely naturally, cross gender children.

In the case of true hermaphrodites, with both male and female genitalia, there is no argument that surgery is appropriate to remove one or the other, as having extra can be extremely, medically bad as they grow older.

But when it is purely psychological, especially before puberty, there is a dilemma. A child with an opposite gender brain can be absolutely miserable, and once they reach puberty, frequently suicidal.

In such cases, there is usually no evidence of parental abuse or coercion, except to make the child conform to their physical gender. Psychologically, many such cases are so severe that gender reassignment surgery seems to be the only help available.

It means the child will be sterile, and for the rest of their life will have to take hormonal replacements, but for most of them, that is an easy choice compared to a lifetime of agony.

Even Saudi Arabia now agrees, that after extensive analysis and medical opinion, that such surgery should be permitted.


23 posted on 09/28/2014 7:43:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: jmacusa

bump


24 posted on 09/28/2014 7:50:10 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tax-chick

good idea


25 posted on 09/28/2014 7:50:21 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: yldstrk
My daughter told me a kid in her high school, a girl, now ids as a boy

That is so sad. It used to be that girls had the freedom to be tomboys. Now, if a girl shows tomboyish behavior, she is likely to be pushed towards sexual deviancy by "enlightened" liberals. That is child abuse.

26 posted on 09/28/2014 7:53:15 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

My thoughts as well. Grew up with quite a few tomboys and by Jr High they turned into girly girls. No such thing anymore. Sad.


27 posted on 09/28/2014 7:58:02 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: GeronL
We wouldn’t want them to be saved if we hated them.

And we would want them to be sated if we could have them!

28 posted on 09/28/2014 8:01:29 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

*scratches head*


29 posted on 09/28/2014 8:02:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: yldstrk

“My daughter told me a kid in her high school, a girl, now ids as a boy”

How do she and the other kids feel about this ?

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30 posted on 09/28/2014 8:04:22 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Kaslin

Yes, and a good portion of the other half are the innocent infected newborns who begin and will end life with AIDS acquired in the womb.


31 posted on 09/28/2014 8:06:09 AM PDT by Bravada (Wherever I Stand, I Stand With Israel!)
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To: GeronL

Just goofin’ with you. Re the topic of lesbians.

Getting the lead balloon of humor out of the way on a Sunday morning I guess. Sorry.


32 posted on 09/28/2014 8:06:25 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Kaslin
Adults are supposed to protect children from touching the red-hot stove, not push their face down on it.

Yowsa!

33 posted on 09/28/2014 8:10:53 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

This is tough ground to cover.

LGBT people have been hurt in real and imagined ways and I think I understand that now more than ever.

Heck, when I was teenager I was a country music fan, but when I heard Janis Ian singing “At Seventeen” there was an emotional connection with the drunk and crazy person I was, isolated socially from the opposite sex.

The gays and lesbians are my brothers and sisters with whom I feel kinship, but many are being used by the political machine and militant groups becoming modern day brownshirted stormtroopers.

Deeply hurting people are out to hurt others and get payback for wrongs, real or imagined.

A good number of LGBT people have been victims of sexual abuse as children. They are emotionally wounded people for whom those who claim to follow God must show more of GOD to.

There’s a need for LOVE in its real spiritual meaning to be shown here, along with a line to be drawn concerning what the Constitution says in its First Amendment.

Gay marriage, for instance, cannot become the stepping stone to a totalitarian society which I sincerely believe is the intent of those pushing it.

Already the hounding of people out of business with intimidation tactics over gay marriage as shown in the case of Brendan Eich resembles the circumstances of Jews in 1933 Germany.

Followers of God do need to start living as if they are followers of GOD.

I can’t do that for others, I can only do it for myself.


34 posted on 09/28/2014 8:11:57 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Tax-chick
It is ridiculous. Tell your niece, “You feel like you, and you are a girl. Therefore, you feel like a girl. Anyone who tells you that a girl can’t be like you is not your friend.

Excellent.

If one were to simply & logically examine "gender identity", they would find the notion silly. To declare - as a man: "I feel like a woman", is non-nonsensical in that I don't know what a woman feels like.

I appreciate your response; it puts a bow on the whole argument.

35 posted on 09/28/2014 8:12:17 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: stylin_geek
I expected that in all areas of life, understanding came before obedience.

Which is not to say that it isn't understandable. Like catalysts in a series of chemical reactions, there are elements only understandable through the Hebrew, and then one must obey them in full to come to understanding. At that point, it becomes mind-blowing.

36 posted on 09/28/2014 8:21:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: riverrunner

Many in the LGBT movement are being used and not just politically. When the bible speaks of fighting principalities and powers that is not just some fairytale but a reality. The LGBT movement represents a major assault not just in the seen world but also the unseen. It represents not just physical corruption but spiritual and the very corruption of reason. Outside of the very serious physical consequences stop for a moment to think about the consequences of believing the lgbt propaganda.

This propaganda represents a deconstruction of freewill. The foundation of the United States is built on freewill. The concept of self determination is central without which liberty is a naïve fiction. The core of the LGBT argument is now firmly rooted in the idea that people do not have a choice that they are “born that way” which indicates that if you have sexual desires and attractions that it is not reasonable to expect that they be denied no matter the physical cost or ridiculousness. This idea is not only unreasoned but it is also very dangerous and has further implications which can be used to deconstruct good society further and even the law. How can a rapist be held responsible for his natural desires? How can infidelity be condemned when it is just natural? Already there are very real efforts to soften stances towards pedophiles based on these very arguments. Once free will is no longer assumed the whole of our liberties are threatened and this of course is the chief justification for socialism. How can one not be a socialist if free will doesn’t exist and if people can’t really be expected to rise and better themselves?

This is also a direct attack on the idea of salvation. We already see churches and even some pastors embracing the decidedly non-biblical position of homosexual acceptance and gay marriage. This is with total disregard to the teachings of Christ concerning cleaving to one’s wife and a total disregard the biblical prohibitions towards the behavior. It also totally ignores the biblical prohibitions towards proud sin. What we end up with is a Christianity that means nothing. While I do see Jesus and the crucifixion as the supreme expression of Gods love I can not help but cringe when I hear a person say “God is love”. Now if I knew they meant in saying that “real love” which includes the full spectrum of protection, compassion, grace, and discipline which is what we find in the Bible then I’d not have such a reaction. The problem is that in most cases its clear that the person means “modern love” the no consequences, no regrets, fleeting, pleasant feeling, do what you like, smiling like your high love. Its a caricature of Gods love. Just as SSM marriage is caricature of Gods marriage. This modern version of Jesus who is more like a friend with benefits (FWB) than the Son of God.


37 posted on 09/28/2014 8:27:37 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry of "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Smokin' Joe

She would have had to lose 100+ pounds first. Maybe the task was just more than she could do.


38 posted on 09/28/2014 8:32:34 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: jonno; GeronL; Mrs. Don-o
I appreciate your response; it puts a bow on the whole argument.

Credit goes to Mrs. Don-o. She observed that a girl does not know what it feels like to be a boy: she only knows what it feels like to be herself. Someone else, probably an adult, has told her that her feelings and thoughts, her "inside," is a boy's, rather than simply herself.

As others have remarked above, this is abusive.

39 posted on 09/28/2014 8:32:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I can play the piano just as well with or without shoes.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Your post 23 is utter pseudoscientific nonsense.


40 posted on 09/28/2014 8:32:54 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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