Put on your kilts and dance a jig, boys. This is stupid.
Will Oklahoma (with all it’s Northern neighbors to the Canadian border), Louisiana, South Mississippi & Alabama and the Florida panhandle be joining in?
Zero chance. To add, Texas will be as Blue as California by 2020, if not by 2016.
A very small number of people who can’t read think Texas can reestablish itself as a Republic.
It can’t.
The biggest danger to Texas is California ex-pats who will bring their liberalism disease with them (I am a California ex-pat but brought solid Conservatism with me).
I think if DFU leaves, he will be the last Conservative (and we expect you to turn out the lights on your way out).
FWIIW, I *really* miss the state of my birth and where I spent my first 1/2 century. But I could no longer put up with being vilified and punished for being productive.
Here in Texas they respect hard work.
Somewhere today I just read that 1 of 4 Americans would like to secede.
It is fair game to make the case for impeachment and to make the case for secession.
It is wise, for now, to carefully make the case for them without explicitly advocating either.
“I know this doesn’t stand a chance, but....”
Ten years ago, 99% of public opinion held that homosexual marriage was crazy.
Fifty years ago, 99% of public opinion held that homosexuality is perverted.
Things change.
When everyone’s a nation, no one will be.
Secession isn’t a toy.
If there isn’t clear oppression talking place to justify it, and not just a dislike of an idiot president, then you have no chance.
Scotland, Quebec, and the CSA failed because of that. South Sudan, Ireland, and the U.S. succeeded because.
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Because it is already happening..
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There are always possibilities.
Personally, I still don't believe the Union's constitutionalists have yet played all our cards. Article V, and calving new states out from existing states, increasing the Membership of the U.S. House by Imperialism, if necessary, are all on the table as far as I am concerned. Madison's 'composite Republic' can be perpetuated, even in the face of majoritarianism and a stifling swamp of deliberate ignorance.
One day me and mine will inevitably be dealt a death card, and when that happens it will then be possible to say, insofar as we are concerned, some things "will never happen."
Even so, Come Lord Jesus!
I’ve really gotten to the point where I consider myself a Texan first, American second. Considering the rapid pace America itself is degrading into such a lawless, socialist sewer of corruption, with a vile and poisonous culture, and an electorate of doped-up, government-dependent dregs... I’m more open than ever to the idea of secession. It’s increasingly looking like the only option left. America doesn’t really seem to have a future.
Maybe in the wildly unlikely event we have a Palin/Cruz ticket in 2016 winning the presidency, I might have to alter my view. But I really don’t see anything taking us out of this current death-spiral.
We’d have to be ready for the Mexican army. No kidding.
I've personally done both in recent years as I thought about the problems we face and looked for answers. I finally came to the conclusion that I can't look at things through rose-tinted glasses, but I also can't just completely withdraw from the fight and give up everything that our founding fathers created either. That doesn't mean I've found any good solutions to our problems. There aren't any easy solutions for us, and there may not be any solutions period. What I do know is that we must look at new and more extreme solutions to how we fight if we are to salvage anything good this country was built on.
I think we have to accept that there isn't anyway for our union to survive regardless of whether we take action or not. There is a good part of the union that doesn't care about any of the principles this country was built on. We already have enough problems in our best States, and if we aren't proactive in coming up with a realistic solution for protecting them they will slowly be lost along with the rest of them. I think we have to be hopeful for a better future, but we have to realize that it's going to take extremely risky solutions that we have no way of knowing with any certainty as to how they will turn out in the end. What we do know is that not doing anything will definitely end bad for all of us, so we have to be willing to take the risk involved in the only potential solutions to our problem that exist.
We should increase how active we are in recruiting and electing like minded people in local elections where a legitimate election process still exist, but it needs to help the advancement of a movement for increased independence and defiance of unconstitutional laws and mandates imposed on us. Those who live in areas that are basically lost should seriously consider relocating if it's a realistic option for them. Defiance of unconstitutional laws and mandates should be used to force the federal government to return power back to the states, and if it doesn't want to do it then let them use force to impose it.
Secession should seriously be considered as one of the options to free us from the numerous unconstitutional laws and mandates that are being forced upon us. I believe we are at the point where we should be using peaceful acts civil disobedience to force our government's hand into either allowing us our freedoms or using force to impose their tyranny upon us as well. I think protest of open defiance are something we should be organizing and participating in at this point. I don't believe working within the corrupt and broken system in federal elections is very helpful at all, and neither is going on the offense in an armed revolution at this point. If we ever come to that sad reality it will have to be in response to violence initiated by the government. I hope it never comes to that, but I fully support forcing the governments hand with mass peaceful protest of open defiance of obvious unconstitutional laws and mandates though.
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Up front I want to say that this life-long Californian wishes the best for Texas and Texans. I support secession
if that is what you want.
The effects of California refugees on Texas depends on the
reason(s) of individual refugees. It will vary. If someone
moves to Texas due to a job transfer (and not just those who originated in California) then you get them and their
politics, liberal or conservative . But, many of those
leaving California are doing so BECAUSE of the worsening
liberal political climate.
Why would liberal Californians want to move to conservative
Texas unless they had to? I just can’t imagine many Marin County liberals who would want to pack up for Texas when
they have things pretty much the way they want it where they are currently located.
If you focus all of your animosity on California then
you would be making a mistake. Focus more attention on
your own inter-cities and, especially, your own
universities. That is where the real liberal danger is
coming from with regard to Texas.
In my own little rural corner of the world I learned that it
was liberals moving from the cities and the addition of
a junior college branch campus that has transformed my
area from solid conservative to “iffy” at best.
Do not bend an inch in your local laws, give-up nothing.
Watch out for those who get themselves on school boards,
planning commissions, and run for local office. We let
our guard down on the local and state levels and got
ourselves over run by urbanites and out-of-state libs.
As long as there is a program to move out those opposed to independence afterward, I’d favor it
The thing most people don’t understand... libs outside of Texas would support the effort... because it would mean the remaining states would never have another republican president.