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Many in Seattle are taking a stand against rise of micro-apartments
Seattle Times ^ | 28AUG2014 | Daniel Beekman

Posted on 09/21/2014 11:06:22 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

An uprising by residents in several Seattle neighborhoods has prompted a City Council proposal, backed by the mayor, that attempts to strike a balance between developers of micro-apartments, opponents, and the needs of a fast-growing city that is home to many one-person households.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: apodment; microapartment; microhousing
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To: Professional Engineer
The good little socialists are objecting to living in cages? Isn’t this their utopia?

That's the part that I don't get. Label it "green," and they're toast.

21 posted on 09/21/2014 11:32:52 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 1rudeboy

They should just live in their cars. Hire “homeless” to drive them around when they are working.


22 posted on 09/21/2014 11:40:47 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Tiny apartment transforms into 24 rooms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-iFJ3ncIDo


23 posted on 09/21/2014 11:41:05 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Micro-apartments but full size rent!
180 sq/ft is 12ft x 15ft!!!!


24 posted on 09/21/2014 12:00:07 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m in architecture. This is the type of crap you get when you mix vacuous, uncritical leftism with architecture.


25 posted on 09/21/2014 12:05:27 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

ROFLMAO!!!


26 posted on 09/21/2014 12:06:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Neither side is fully satisfied with the proposal. It would allow dorm-style housing to continue to sprout in select zones, while requiring units in most neighborhoods to average at least 220 square feet, a measure that would reduce the density of future projects.

The living room was larger in my first solo apartment -- about 275 sq ft in a major East Coast city -- out of which I was able to bootstrap my first business. There was also an additional 400 sq ft of bedroom, bathroom, kitchen and hallway. People trying to actually live and have people over in such a micro environment would soon feel like a dog in a crate.

27 posted on 09/21/2014 12:07:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (S.I.N. = Systematic Inversion of Norms)
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To: SaxxonWoods
These could work as a second home for people who come to Seattle often for business or pleasure.

The fact that they will exist on the market will inflate the price of conventional one- and two-bedrooms.

28 posted on 09/21/2014 12:08:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (S.I.N. = Systematic Inversion of Norms)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Some people never learn-they just ignore history. Cramming people into cells in people hives didn’t work in the USSR, Rome, cities in pre-historical America, in the middle East, etc, etc-these people need to read more about the human past and the cities abandoned all over the world when they became too crowded, and a volcano went boom, flood, etc or an enemy attacked and they were sieged, with supplies already low...

Too many people to feed in to little space too far away from agricultural areas means the supply chain of resources can be disrupted by just about anything out of the ordinary-like hurricanes and other natural disasters-even worker strikes, causing them to become scarce and expensive-or unavailable, raising the cost, or run out, creating deprivation-rats and other vermin run in spreading disease-all of which creates enough individual unrest to practically cause a public psychosis.

People run off to less crowded areas to be alone and in a healthier atmosphere. Urban areas decline into slums/ghettos, the dregs of humanity and criminals move in, businesses go broke or move out-sound familiar?

Even so, it is each individual’s life, and if they want to live crowded like that, go for it-just don’t cry to anyone else when it is not the socialist paradise they dreamed of. People are not bees-living in hives like that is not healthy ...


29 posted on 09/21/2014 12:10:57 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up yoiur boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: RegulatorCountry
How is a 300 sq ft “apodment” any different from an efficiency studio flat in NYC? That’s 15’x 15’

For one thing, they are suggesting a 200 sq ft space as the bottom line. Awful.

I always used to shake my head at the spacious New York apartment depicted on "Friends." Like, where, for two marginally employed women?

30 posted on 09/21/2014 12:13:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (S.I.N. = Systematic Inversion of Norms)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I can imagine people needing Xanax to control their claustrophobia—government issued Xanax, of course.


31 posted on 09/21/2014 12:22:59 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Albion Wilde
The fact that they will exist on the market will inflate the price of conventional one- and two-bedrooms.

Don't want to pick an argument, but wouldn't the existence of a cheap and plentiful alternative (apodments) actually represent a pressure to reduce the price of conventional one- and two-bedroom apartments? I mean: A certain segment of the market who, in the past, would have been forced (for want of alternatives) to rent/purchase a small apartment now have the option of renting/purchasing a micro-apartment. They thus "drop out" of the market for conventional apartments. Less demand for small conventional apartments -> lower prices for small conventional apartments.

Regards,

32 posted on 09/21/2014 12:23:13 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It already sucks that they tax us to pay for underclass schooling. The only way we have of limiting this redistribution of liberty and property is to enact zoning restrictions on the minimum sizes and values of residences. The rich have already downsized from their large estates, to minimize their losses, so now the middle classes are solely victimized by the plundering.

Small, cheap housing is just a way for the underclass to steal from the middle class.


33 posted on 09/21/2014 12:26:15 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: RegulatorCountry

When I was a college student at the University of Washington, lo so many years ago, there were lots of tiny old studio apartments that one could rent on Capital Hill. It is hard to understand why downtown would be objecting if a lot of folks want to live like students in little pods forever.

After all, the Seattle culture has fostered a lifestyle of single, aimless young people drinking coffee and riding bikes. Why object now?


34 posted on 09/21/2014 12:29:50 PM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The only thing that really matters... is the tiny home big enough to grow six marijuana plants the government authorizes to grow.


35 posted on 09/21/2014 12:52:46 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Have at it as far as I’m concerned.

It's not benign. Communal living, with the extreme rules and regulations needed to make it work, turns most people into communists. And it's not cheaper when people also in effect pay rent for $30/dinner at restaurants, $3/cup at coffee shops, $6 for 12 ounces of beer at bars, and paying extra for city retailers to act as extra closet space. It's not an American lifestyle to live surrounded in 3 dimensions by communists that won't even learn your name and wish half their thousand next door neighbors dead.

36 posted on 09/21/2014 1:03:38 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Jack Hydrazine

**The uproar is about micro-apartments, hotel room-sized units built in tandem with a common kitchen. **

What’s wrong with that?


37 posted on 09/21/2014 1:37:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

From one of those articles:

**He pays $807 a month (by bank transfer—no checks accepted) for the furnished room at the LEED Platinum–certified Tudor Manor development. That includes all utilities, a free laundry room, Wi-Fi and parking, an option Gunning chose that raised his rent by $60 monthly. His space is as tidily packed as a lunchbox, with the desk and chair, one window, one bed, wall-hung shelves holding clothing and books, and a “convenience center” with mini-refrigerator and microwave. There’s a bathroom with shower, but no closet or kitchen. (Gunning uses a small, shared kitchen, with a stove, down the hall, which he says is rarely in use.)**


38 posted on 09/21/2014 1:41:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

$807 a month??

That is robbery


39 posted on 09/21/2014 1:42:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

Amazing!


40 posted on 09/21/2014 1:48:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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