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Islamic State Atrocities the Product of ‘Grievances’?
FrontPage Magazine ^ | September 17, 2014 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 09/18/2014 4:52:29 AM PDT by SJackson

Islamic State Atrocities the Product of ‘Grievances’?

Posted By Raymond Ibrahim On September 17, 2014 @ 12:33 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 22 Comments

While many have rightfully criticized U.S. President Obama’s recent assertion that the Islamic State “is not Islamic,” some of his other equally curious but more subtle comments pronounced in the same speech have been largely ignored.

Consider the president’s invocation of the “grievances” meme to explain the Islamic State’s success: “At this moment the greatest threats come from the Middle East and North Africa, where radical groups exploit grievances for their own gain. And one of those groups is ISIL—which calls itself the Islamic State.”

Obama’s logic, of course, is fortified by an entire apparatus of professional apologists who make the same claim.  Thus Georgetown professor John Esposito—whose apologetics sometimes morph into boldfaced lies—also recently declared that “The “primary drivers [for the Islamic State’s violence] are to be found elsewhere,” that is, not in Islam but in a “long list of grievances.”

In other words and once again, it’s apparently somehow “our fault” that Islamic State Muslims are behaving savagely—crucifying, beheading, enslaving, and massacring people only on the basis that they are “infidels”:  thus when IS herds and slaughters “infidel” men (citing the example of the prophet)—that’s because they’re angry at something America did; when IS captures “infidel” women and children, and sells them on the sex-slave market (citing Islamic teachings)—that’s because they’re angry at something America did; when IS bombs churches, breaks their crosses, and tells Christians to convert or die (citing Islamic scriptures)—that’s because they’re angry at something America did.

Although the “grievance” meme flies in the face of logic, it became especially popular after the 9/11 al-Qaeda strikes on America. The mainstream media, following the Islamist propaganda network Al Jazeera’s lead, uncritically picked up and disseminated Osama bin Laden’s videotapes to the West where he claimed that al-Qaeda’s terror campaign was motivated by grievances against the West—grievances that ranged from U.S. support for Israel to failure for the U.S. to sign the Kyoto Agreement concerning climate change.

Of course, that was all rubbish, and I have written more times than I care to remember about how in their internal Arabic-language communiques to fellow Muslims that never get translated to English, Osama, al-Qaeda, and virtually every Islamist organization make it a point to insist that jihad is an Islamic obligation that has nothing to do with grievances.

Consider Osama’s own words in an internal letter to fellow Saudis:

Our talks with the infidel West and our conflict with them ultimately revolve around one issue — one that demands our total support, with power and determination, with one voice — and it is: Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually?

Yes. There are only three choices in Islam: [1] either willing submission [conversion]; [2] or payment of the jizya, through physical, though not spiritual, submission to the authority of Islam; [3] or the sword — for it is not right to let him [an infidel] live. The matter is summed up for every person alive: Either submit, or live under the suzerainty of Islam, or die. (The Al Qaeda Reader, p. 42)

Conversion, submission, or the sword is, of course, the mission of the Islamic State—not alleviating “grievances.”  Yet it’s worse than that; for unlike al-Qaeda, the Islamic State, from day one of its existence, has made it very clear—in Osama’s words, “with power and determination, with one voice”—that its massacres, enslavements, crucifixions, and beheadings of “infidels” are all based on Islamic law or Sharia—not silly “grievances” against the West. Unlike al-Qaeda, the Islamic State is confident enough to avoid the grievances/taqiyya game and forthrightly asserts its hostility for humans based on their religious identity.

Yet by slipping the word “grievances” to explain the Islamic State’s Sharia-based savageries, Obama apparently hopes America has been thoroughly conditioned like Pavlov’s dog to automatically associate Islamic world violence with “grievances.”

What Obama fails to understand—or fails to mention—is that, yes, the Islamic State, al-Qaeda, and countless angry Muslims around the world are indeed often prompted to acts of violence by “grievances.”  But as fully explained here, these “grievances” are not predicated on any universal standards of equality or justice, only a supremacist worldview.

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TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ibrahim; isis; islam; muslim

1 posted on 09/18/2014 4:52:29 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

HOORAY Raymond Ibrahim! List of grievances like those listed in the Declaration of Independence? Not so much. ISIS totalitarian list of demands on dhimmis, like their taqiyya talkin’ bros, the secular totalitarians of the U.S.A. (United Socialists of America)

Death and plunder ALERT!


2 posted on 09/18/2014 5:10:19 AM PDT by PGalt
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3 posted on 09/18/2014 5:10:43 AM PDT by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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To: SJackson

Thanks for posting this article. What do you suppose that Dempsey means in his remarks and what does it mean for the “war”?

The second video is Martha McCallum with Steven Hayes - Hayes brings up the phrase that Dempsey used “Coalition will Address Grievances that cause this in the first place” which is very interesting, curious phrasing by the Joint Chiefs.

52 Seconds
Dempsey: Coalition Will ‘Address Grievances That Caused This In The First Place’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75YAK3TMMIY

4:14 Minutes
Stephen Hayes On ISIS Hearing: White House Is ‘Not On The Same Page’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbIXHZVYdBo


4 posted on 09/18/2014 6:16:03 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: SJackson
This article more clearly states what an earlier post Sleepwalking toward Armegaddon failed to, at least based on the comments.

In Loopy Liblandia, Islamists are raping and beheading for the same things "everyone" wants: universal health care, transgender recognition, shorter work hours with more pay, and whatever else Libs earnestly desire for themselves.

Libs attribute to their conservative neighbors the basest and most vile motives while believing the best of apparent savages. Why do Libs think these things?

5 posted on 09/18/2014 7:13:50 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: SJackson

***it’s apparently somehow “our fault” that Islamic State Muslims are behaving savagely***

So, what did “WE do one thousand years ago when Yusuf ben Texum rolled out of the Sudan overthrowing the moslem kings of north Africa while calling for a return to jihad?

What did “we” do in 1884 to cause the Mahdi to roll out of Sudan again to overthrow the rulers of Khartoum and threaten Egypt?

These things always happen in muzzie land. If they set up a caliphate soon some group will try to destroy them because they are not islamic enough.


6 posted on 09/18/2014 7:53:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SJackson
No, they are direct manifestations of the Koran written in
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7 posted on 09/18/2014 8:44:13 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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