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Poll puts Scottish independence campaign ahead for first time
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 06 Sep 2014 | Edward Malnick

Posted on 09/06/2014 2:47:43 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Reaganez

Why not? The Scots turned against the Stuart dynasty far more absolutely than the English did during the civil war. The Scots accepted the house of Hanover just as much as the English did.


101 posted on 09/08/2014 2:18:19 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Marvelous

I will continue to sneer
and you can be distasteful.

AND Scotland can be independent.


102 posted on 09/08/2014 7:02:51 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Vanders9

When was the vote on Hanover ?


103 posted on 09/08/2014 7:04:30 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Vanders9

Well, the latter ARE Scottish by descent. The RF being German is a myth.


104 posted on 09/08/2014 9:25:26 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: aumrl

The act of settlement, 1701.


105 posted on 09/08/2014 9:37:42 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: aumrl

AND it can remain in the Union too, in spite of your wishes.


106 posted on 09/08/2014 9:39:35 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: the scotsman

a myth?
George cudnt even speak English
either, neither
check out the coat of arms

1707 not 1701 is when Scotland was forced by Alien act and sedition act and bribes to accept a non catholic.


107 posted on 09/08/2014 12:20:06 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: aumrl

I have already explained on FR many times that the Hanoverians were related to the Stuarts by James VI/I’s daughter. And that’s why they took the throne in 1714.


108 posted on 09/08/2014 12:25:06 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: aumrl

Forced?. We were more anti-Catholic than England!.


109 posted on 09/08/2014 12:26:33 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

I didn’t question how non-Catholic you were.
Knox was my man.

My statement however stands.

We in this country have no ‘royalty’.
So this is all silliness really.

Have you been to geo 1 tomb in Westminster?
of course not! He’s buried in Deutchland.


110 posted on 09/08/2014 12:48:08 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Viennacon

How long before France tries to box England in with the Auld Alliance?


111 posted on 09/08/2014 3:04:22 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: miss marmelstein

As far as I understand the welfare rate in Scotland is much higher than in England, so the Scottish really depend on England as the Atlas who carries their burden. Not to say England is some capitalist mecca - it is not.


112 posted on 09/08/2014 3:37:50 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It seems unreasonable that 50+ percent get to call the shots for the rest. Seems to be a 66% test would be more just.


113 posted on 09/08/2014 3:38:36 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Indeed. I mean I love Scottish history and much about the Scots in general (they are much politer and kinder than the English). But they have an unusual history, going from liberty lovers to statist huggers (the Stuarts). At this moment they are in the statist camp.


114 posted on 09/08/2014 3:42:08 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

I will say, based ridiculously on my facebook friends, that Scots are amazingly socialistic. Add to that my old friend, Jane, who I’ve lost touch with, and it completes an incomplete picture. But, to be honest, I don’t follow Scottish history or politics so I don’t really know...hope it all works out for our pals in GB.


115 posted on 09/08/2014 4:09:13 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Vanders9

You might want to read FR a bit more. Seems the idea of a new CFA has lots of fans and more by the day.

That aside It remains awfully ridiculous to hold your view when the very concept of America was built on the idea of casting off oppressive government. Which is what the Scots are doing. Which is what people in America mean when they bitch incessantly about one party rule. Whether or not it works for them, we will see. Whether or not they are socialist idiots or modern versions of the founders will be determined by the results.


116 posted on 09/09/2014 11:39:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
A new CFA has a lot of support. The old one doesn't.

The argument about oppressive government only works IF you believe the government they are casting off is "oppressive". A considerable number (probably still the majority) dont believe that. Even if you think that Westminster is no longer representing the best interests of Scotland (a reasonable argument that many in parts of England could relate to) the Yes campaign plans tighter links with the EU. So basically, they are fighting for an independence from London that they will then give away to Brussels. Makes no sense to me, unless the prime emotional motivation of the independence camp is watching "Braveheart" too much.

117 posted on 09/10/2014 12:34:32 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

That could/and likely will happen. But it’s their right as humans to make that choice. What gets me is that anyone here in Obama’s America could be against the idea of people fighting for what they believe.

Because before long, WE are going to be faced with Balkinization and such choices ourselves thanks to the 50/50 split here.


118 posted on 09/10/2014 12:56:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Ok, but just remember the Unionists are fighting for what THEY believe in too.


119 posted on 09/10/2014 3:21:37 PM PDT by Vanders9
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