Cameron faces Ukip by-election bloodbath!

Mail Online ^ | 8/30/2014 | Simon Walters

[tennmountainman]

Ukip are set to win their first Commons seat with a landslide 64 per cent of the vote following the biggest swing in modern political history. Turncoat MP Douglas Carswell is set to humiliate David Cameron at the Clacton by-election sparked by his defection, a Survation poll for The Mail on Sunday has revealed. The figures – the first test of public opinion since the politician rocked Westminster by defecting to Nigel Farage’s party – predict a record 48 point swing towards Ukip.

[vbmoneyspender]

I also thought that Ross Perot had some worthwhile things to say.But I didn't vote for him...because I knew he didn't have a prayer and all he could do was cause Bush to lose.

And you were smart enough to make that calculation but British conservatives are too stupid to make the same calculation?

[Henchster]

"Proof of private health insurance must be a precondition for immigrants and tourists to enter the UK."

I wonder what they will say to U.S. tourists who are on an Obamacare plan? "I'm terribly sorry sir, and I apologize in advance, but unfortunately, your sub-standard coverage prohibits your entry at the current time. Cheeri-o!"

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

The real zinger here is that the defection to UKIP is turning into a smashing hit. If the defector wins his seat by a wide margin, a lot of other Tory MPs are going to get ideas. I would not be surprised if more defections follow.

[tennmountainman]

Ironic you mentioned that.
Not one peep from the GOP on what their vision for America is,
if they take over the Senate and maintain the house.
Only democrats bad.

[tennmountainman]

Yep. That could end up being an historic shift in British politics.
It might even be the beginning of saving their once great empire.

[tbw2]

The Rotterham Muslim rape gang case is leaking out, getting worse and worse.

Initial revelations:
1400 plus white girls gang-raped over a 16 year period
Police refused to investigate for fear of being branded racist

Next revelations:
A reporter who reported this several years ago was punished, called a racist
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2735211/I-called-liar-racist-exposing-horror-SUE-REID.html
At least two fathers whose daughters were raped were arrested themselves for “obstruction” for reporting the rapes
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/uk-police-arrested-parents-trying-to-stop-muslims-from-raping-their-children/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+fpm+%28FrontPage+Magazine+%C2%BB+All%29

Most recent revelations
Police rushed out - to delete files and destroy records of the rape cases
Teachers were told NOT to report rapes of students
Police recorded some cases as consensual, actively tried to prove other girls were liars
At least a hundred babies were born of these events and then taken from the mothers, no action to prosecute Muslim fathers who sired children on 13-17 year old girls

Now police have announced in the media - we’re going to raid and arrest these perpetrators!
They went after an old white guy on charges 30 years old and vague evidence without warning.
But over a thousand white girls raped and over a hundred babies resulting, and the authorities actively work to cover it up.

This is why UKIP has a 48 point up swing in the polls.
Multi-culturalism’s mythic kumbayah was more important than the mass rape of British children.

[marktwain]

“That question cause me to suspect that you don't follow British politics very closely.I do.If the result next May (their next national election) in the majority of constituencies is Marxist Labour 45%,Conservative 43%,UKIP 12% that means “Red Ed” Milliband (leader of the Marxist Labour Party) runs the country for 5 years.”

I am sure it could happen that way. But isn't it just as likely that the number of seats is split 45% Labor, 43% Conservative, and 12% UKIP, in which case the Conservatives and UKIP form a coallition?

[tennmountainman]

Yeah. I read an article posted here about that.
No wonder UKIP is emerging as the real Conservative party in the UK.

[Nextrush]

The GOPe panders to the electorate with fear and resentment of Obama and the Left to suck people in.

They have no intention of reversing the wrongs done by Obama in general and Obmacare in particular.

A Uniparty policy is being directed by powerful forces in business-politics etc. who have and will impose austerity measures on us like benefit cuts and tax increases to keep the welfare state afloat in the midst of the financial calamity.

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Go UKIP! You can bring back the UK! Show the Tories what payback means!

[tennmountainman]

Makes sense.
Because the GOP is running on nothing but Democrats bad.
The GOP offer no vision on what they will do with more power,
If more power is given to them.
Nothing. Zip. Nada.

[tbw2]

The irony is that Rotterham is where a Christian foster family lost the kids because their child protective services division found out they were members of UKIP.
Never mind they fostered half a dozen kids, many of them non-white. They were members of a “racist” political party, so all the kids were taken away.
Whereas white girls raped literally by the thousands was ignored and then covered up.

I remember a line from “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Larry Niven. Civilization has fallen apart, they are facing an army of cannibals, and there are people debating whether to fight or flee, why to fight.
One character looked at the 12 year old blonde daughter of a ranch employee and asked himself, what is civilization, if not to protect that child from rape and murder?

A government that will not do something so basic has lost its right to rule.

[PapaBear3625]

No it doesn't. Parties in parliamentary forms of gov't form coalitions all the time. In fact, this is the reason why the Tories are currently in power and David Cameron is Prime Minister, with the Tories having formed a coalition with the Liberal Democrats. If the Tories got 43% and UKIP got 12%, they would almost certainly form a coalition. And by the way, you have left the Liberal Democrats out of your calculations.

If in an election for a particular seat, Labour gets 40% of the vote, the Tories get 38%, and UKIP gets 22%, then Labour gets the seat. Multiply that by dozens of races where UKIP and the Tories split the conservative vote among them, and you have Labour getting a majority of seats even though they lose the national popular vote.

[Gay State Conservative]

But isn't it just as likely that the number of seats is split 45% Labor, 43% Conservative, and 12% UKIP, in which case the Conservatives and UKIP form a coallition?

The hypothetical figures I quoted weren't percentages of *seats* they were percentages of votes received in the majority of constituencies.In any constituency in which my hypothetical figures prove to be accurate the majority of the votes cast will have been cast for "conservative" candidates but Labour will have won the seat.

Think 1992...California....the two "conservative" candidates got a combined 52% of the vote (Bush-32%,Perot 20%) but BillyBob took the state with 46%.

My understanding is the very same thing could well happen to Cameron next year that happened to Bush in '92.

[tennmountainman]

It appears that a lot of British Patriots have had their fill of political
correctness. If they win this seat by a large margin, more Tory defections
will follow and look out then.

[PapaBear3625]

I am sure it could happen that way. But isn't it just as likely that the number of seats is split 45% Labor, 43% Conservative, and 12% UKIP, in which case the Conservatives and UKIP form a coallition?

If UKIP gets 12% of the nationwide vote, it does NOT mean they get 12% of the seats, that's not how it works. Each individual seat gets awarded to whoever got the most votes in that particular district, even if nobody gets a majority.

[GeronL]

The Tories are much closer to Labour than they are to UKIP and they like them a lot more too

[tennmountainman]

There would have never been a Perot had Bush not broken his promise.
“Read my lips, no new taxes”.
Tax he did. You blame Perot,

However, Bush lied, which created an opportunity for Perot.
You seem to have selective memory issues.

[Gay State Conservative]

You seem to have selective memory issues.

Well,one thing seems pretty certain.Either I have a selective memory or you failed "practical arithmetic" in school.

[tennmountainman]

Don’t blame me for Perot.

Did Bush break his no tax pledge to the American people and his conservative base?

Yes he did.

That is why Perot, among other issues, gained traction.
And that is why Bush was a one term-er.

Lesson. Don’t break a promise to Americans and you won’t have to worry
about Perot types helping your opponent win.