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What I did after police killed my son
Politico ^ | 8-15-14 | Michael Bell

Posted on 08/16/2014 11:19:26 AM PDT by yldstrk

After police in Kenosha, Wis., shot my 21-year-old son to death outside his house ten years ago — and then immediately cleared themselves of all wrongdoing — an African-American man approached me and said: “If they can shoot a white boy like a dog, imagine what we’ve been going through.”

I could imagine it all too easily, just as the rest of the country has been seeing it all too clearly in the terrible images coming from Ferguson, Mo., in the aftermath of the killing of Michael Brown. On Friday, after a week of angry protests, the police in Ferguson finally identified the officer implicated in Brown's shooting, although the circumstances still remain unclear.

I have known the name of the policeman who killed my son, Michael, for ten years. And he is still working on the force in Kenosha.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: killing; police
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To: liege

If the police say you are a threat. You is a threat.


101 posted on 08/16/2014 1:35:15 PM PDT by sport
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To: icwhatudo

In the posted article it says the son was handcuffed.

BTW, to all, the link takes you to page 2 of the story, so that’s a little confusing.

Of course cops are allowed to use deadly force if they fear for their lives, and I understand that people make mistakes, but if you know that no matter how bad you screw up nobody is going to call you on it, well that is a recipe for disaster.

Like, take Obama for example - take him please!


102 posted on 08/16/2014 1:40:10 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; ...



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103 posted on 08/16/2014 2:01:31 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: yldstrk

Thank you so much! I’ll let them know.


104 posted on 08/16/2014 2:05:37 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: icwhatudo
By the way, I keep seeing people say he was cuffed at the time. Can you provide a link to that? Thanks

The link provided with the post goes to page 2 of the article. If you scroll down to the bottom of that page you'll see where you can click on page 1. I think starting on page 2 has caused some confusion.
105 posted on 08/16/2014 2:12:12 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: Shannon

Thanks Shannon. Wierd how the father’s site presents it as “so and so said they saw cuffs” rather than just “he was in cuffs”. It appears it may be in dispute. Father’s web site talks about an officer removing the cuffs from the scene as if there were none found on the son and they must have snuck them away.


106 posted on 08/16/2014 2:18:23 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: saleman
It’s my understanding that if you kill a police dog then the charges are the same as if you killed a police officer. I could be wrong...

Your understanding is incorrect.

Killing an animal would not entail the same charges (namely: murder) as killing a human being.

Regards,

107 posted on 08/16/2014 2:24:25 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

It wasn’t my own son, genius, it was the son of the retired Air Force LTC who wrote the article


108 posted on 08/16/2014 3:18:30 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: icwhatudo

Obviously a lot of them say he went for my gun, that way even though the civilian is unarmed, the police have a reason


109 posted on 08/16/2014 3:20:01 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

But the shooter did not say it. His partner did and it was heard by others. Even the defense lawyer says the gun was pulled on but claims it was by the mirror.


110 posted on 08/16/2014 5:17:47 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

“The evidence in a shooting is presented to a Grand Jury, they are the ones who say ‘yay’ or ‘nay.’”

That doesn’t happen all the time where LEOs are involved although it should. The public should get the last word on those that work for and are paid by the public, not DA, or FOP or PC.


111 posted on 08/16/2014 5:41:10 PM PDT by apoliticalone (The MSM has a role to keep Americans divided rather than having a United States)
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To: yldstrk

ifmher kid had just strongarm robbed a store, and then punched an officer in the face and went for his gun, then yes, her son was like this punk thug.


112 posted on 08/16/2014 5:45:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: apoliticalone

I’m not trying to be smart but where I come from every fatal police officer involved shooting has been presented to a Grand Jury.


113 posted on 08/16/2014 6:07:40 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: yldstrk

Police DO always clear themselves, especially when the DA is besties with the Sheriff. That’s what happened here in my hometown of Santa Rosa, with the shooting of 13 year old Andy Lopez a few months ago by Sheriff’s deputy Eric Gelhaus. The DA (who campaigned for the Sheriff, her special buddy) declared — two weeks after HER reelection — that the shooting was justified, nothing to see folks, move on — and now that the Sheriff is out of town on vacation and “can’t be reached for comment” they’ve announced that Gelhaus is to be put back on active duty, on County roads. Makes me want to puke. I went to a protest about this today (I’m not a big protester but this got me going) and there were only about 30 people there. People are f***ing blind. If it doesn’t directly impinge on them they have no clue. We have the crap government we deserve, it seems.


114 posted on 08/16/2014 6:07:48 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

The “officials” who call themselves public servants have come to believe that the public works for and are subservient to them. Why wouldn’t they with their generous pensions and benefits funded by taxpayers.

That is the mindset of elitism that needs immediately changed. Government works for us, not vice versa.


115 posted on 08/16/2014 6:16:10 PM PDT by apoliticalone (The MSM has a role to keep Americans divided rather than having a United States)
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To: wideawake
What if none of dfwgator's family members are drunken morons who think bringing fists to a gunfight is a good idea?

Thank God you have no 21 year old testosterone laden sons or nephews who've made the mistake of having too much to drink....

116 posted on 08/17/2014 7:41:42 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: icwhatudo
No. I advocate not calling a cop “trigger happy” because he shot a man fighting with 3 cops, who had already been tasered 4 times, after his partner yelled-”He has my gun!”.

Worked out well for the perp and for the cop who actually shot him. Both are now dead....

117 posted on 08/17/2014 7:43:20 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: freebilly

My mistake. The cop who shot is still on the force. Another cop present killed himself....


118 posted on 08/17/2014 7:52:18 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Hetty_Fauxvert, when I lived in Santa Rosa’s West End a few years back, a SWAT team marched into my house with their weapons drawn and pointed at my wife and children. They were looking for the drug dealer who lived on the next street and got the address wrong. Apparently he was wanted for the theft of semi-automatic weapons from the sheriff’s department. If I had been home there’s a good chance I would’ve been shot as a precaution....


119 posted on 08/17/2014 8:01:57 AM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: freebilly

So you think that decorated cop with no complaints over a six year career was trigger happy?


120 posted on 08/17/2014 11:07:52 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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