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Posted on 08/08/2014 6:35:01 AM PDT by wagglebee
[The elderly have] “a duty to die and get out of the way... so that our kids can build a reasonable life." - [former] Colorado governor Richard Lamm
I know of a case where an older woman was in her 60’s she had her goiter removed. She was old country and objected saying that she was old and wouldn’t live long anyway, but had it done.
They discovered it was growing down towards her heart and was just a short distance away. It would have killed her when it hit her heart.
She lived another 30 years.
Can’t wait till this subhuman gets to be 80. I hope God is just in his lifetime as opposed to when he goes to hell.
Absolutely. Sometimes we should fight to make sure our loved ones get every bit of medical help they can. Other times we have to realize that they are not going to make it and give them pain relief and our love, while allowing them to go.
I despise the practice of assisted suicide (and the more common practice of killing through neglect) but when a person has a terminal illness it's OK to not take heroic measures.
Uh, left in the corner without food, water, and pain meds.
And we wonder why GB has been invaded by terrorists.
Your use of the word expedient reminds me of a verse from scripture:
“Now Caiphas was he who had given the counsel to the Jews: That it was expedient that one man should die for the people.” (John 18:14)
When you take the governments money you get government quality care.
“or they work to get private care.”
That is the issue that will drive this in the future. Who pays? If you rely on socialism to act morally, you have already started from an immoral foundation.
If you expect the government to pay for everything and also act morally, you expect too much.
Socialism WILL kill people. Medicare will kill people the same as the NHS. The best time to make the moral argument is at the establishment of socialist programs and institutions. Failing that you are just fighting over the moral high ground, and accomplishing nothing.
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You shouldn’t ignore what the doctor actually said. “‘If a person is in hospital, particularly an elderly person with multiple co-morbidities, if they have a cardiac arrest it’s a sign they are in decline,’ he told Radio 4.
Having been in the hospital 3 seperate weeks over the past year and having people in the same room suffering and unable to do anything for themselves i can tell you that they may be alive but they’re surely not living. They’re beating hearts with a bunch of needles stuck in their bodies. This in NOT the same as denying Schiavo nutrients. This isn’t about starving someone to death which i am bitterly opposed to. He’s speaking of people who are literally dying and being brought back from the dead to just lay there and suffer for some longer period of time.
I understand where you’re coming from but the doctor didn’t say don’t try and save otherwise healthy people.
ping for later
In spite of some discomfort he's enjoying life as much as is possible for someone his age.
The same goes for those in the USA who are stuck in nursing homes. The more often a patient is visited, the better care they get.
Have a living will in place, and be sure you can trust the younger person you assign as your protector.
The national health service is an authoritarian pagan death cult.
Compared to Rahm Emanuel’s brother, this guy is a veritable Florence Nightengale.
An Agenda 21 adherent!
Doctors work too many hours and consequently have a low quality of life. They should all be killed, right?
Remember Henry... he's 91 and in poor health. I wonder what he has to say now...
“I understand where you’re coming from but the doctor didn’t say don’t try and save otherwise healthy people.”
You are forgetting that these folks only say what you will find palatable, while they know that the result of the beauracracy implementing what they said is that it will extend far beyond what you found palatable. It is as it always is and always will be.
He may have made a public statement that you accept, but his cocktail party discussions are likely much different.
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