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Doctor: Elderly People Should be Left to Die, Their Quality of Life is Too Low
Life News ^ | 8/7/14 | Sarah Zagorski

Posted on 08/08/2014 6:35:01 AM PDT by wagglebee

Dr. James Beattie, a cardiologist who works at the East of England NHS Foundation Trust in Birmingham, believes hospitals should let more elderly patients die and “quality of life” should be given more consideration.

According to an article in the Daily Mail, Beattie said that society no longer accepts mortality and is much less familiar with death.

‘If a person is in hospital, particularly an elderly person with multiple co-morbidities, if they have a cardiac arrest it’s a sign they are in decline,’ he told Radio 4.

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‘It’s their act of dying and they should not be resuscitated, they should be allowed to die.’

Dr Beattie, who works at the East of England NHS Foundation Trust in Birmingham, explained that the chance of an elderly person leaving hospital after being resuscitated is around 5 per cent.

But he said the issue was a difficult one because people today are less likely to think and talk about death thanks to advancements in modern medicine, which mean that people are living longer.

‘Society these days is much less familiar with death,’ he said, adding: ‘Our great-grandparents and to some extent our grandparents grew up with people dying before the days of antibiotics.

‘That’s denied these days. People died at home. Death is now becoming something in hospitals and care homes, somewhere removed from the family and the home.’

However, the ideology that Beattie proposes is a slippery slope and leads to an ugly future, where the elderly, ill, and dying are neglected and even killed.

Dr. Everett Koop, a renown pediatric surgeon who served as Surgeon General of the United States during President Reagan’s administration, said in his book The Memoirs of America’s Family Doctor, “… We must be wary of those who are too willing to end the lives of the elderly and the ill. If we ever decide that a poor quality of life justifies ending that life, we have taken a step down a slippery slope that places all of us in danger. There is a difference between allowing nature to take its course and actively assisting death. The call for euthanasia surfaces in our society periodically, as it is doing now under the guise of “death with dignity” or assisted suicide.”

While the morality of many end-of-life decisions, such as when to sign a “do not resuscitate order”, when to take a loved one off life support, or if extraordinary measures should be taken to save a person’s life can vary case-by-case, deciding that the elderly or sick should be left to die because they will not have a good quality of life is not one doctors in hospitals should be making. When society travels down that path, it not only leads to death by omission, but intentional, direct killing of innocent people.

Burke Balch J.D. said it best at the National Right to Life convention in Louisville, Kentucky earlier this summer: “It is critical that we understand that the actual application of quality of life ideology is extremely subjective and very arbitrary. Humanity exists on a continuum of our degree of mental mobility, and on a continuum of physical health. The issue of where you draw the line of whether a particular persons life if worth living, or a particular life is not worth living, is something of a gut instinct or of a consensus among doctors.”

The article concluded by explaining that sometimes doctors spend too much time and money on petitions for their patients who need surgeries, instead of meeting all their responsibilities as physicians. Although it may be valid to argue that doctors need to manage their time wisely, when making medical decisions, it needs to be emphasized that time and money should not be ultimate deciding factors as to whether a person lives or dies. Instead, a civilized society should protect their weakest and do everything within their power to ensure their health and survival.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; euthanasia; medicalcare; moralabsolutes; nhs; obamacare; obamacarefuture; palinwasright; prolife; socializedmecicine; socializedmedicine; universalhealthcare; uselesseaters
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But he said the issue was a difficult one because people today are less likely to think and talk about death thanks to advancements in modern medicine, which mean that people are living longer.

‘Society these days is much less familiar with death,’ he said, adding: ‘Our great-grandparents and to some extent our grandparents grew up with people dying before the days of antibiotics.'

This ghoul is trying to say that even antibiotics should be denied when a death panel deems a person's "quality of life" is too low.

1 posted on 08/08/2014 6:35:01 AM PDT by wagglebee
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3 posted on 08/08/2014 6:36:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 08/08/2014 6:38:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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What about that whole”first do no harm” thingy?


5 posted on 08/08/2014 6:41:23 AM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: wagglebee

“If they be like to die, they had better do it and decrease the surplus population.” - Ebenezer Scrooge


6 posted on 08/08/2014 6:41:43 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: wagglebee

So.....is he going to put us out on the ice to die like Eskimos? ;-)


7 posted on 08/08/2014 6:42:17 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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So, Dr. James Beattie, how old are You?


8 posted on 08/08/2014 6:45:42 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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First, dying isn’t an ‘act’; and second isn’t the moral thing to do to take each person’s case on its own merits?


9 posted on 08/08/2014 6:48:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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So.....is he going to put us out on the ice to die like Eskimos?

Don't be ridiculous. They'll club us like a baby seal.

10 posted on 08/08/2014 6:49:05 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I don't just play a bum on tv, I'm one in real life too!)
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There is no Eskimo word for Eastbourne.


11 posted on 08/08/2014 6:49:21 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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“So, Dr. James Beattie, how old are You?”

Exactly...and so when it’s your turn Dr. Beattie, no whining. We are just going to kick the plug out of the wall. You get to take the medicine you prescribe for others princess.


12 posted on 08/08/2014 6:49:41 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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We’ll remember what you said when it’s yout turn. Thinks or thinking of us as units and not people beotch


13 posted on 08/08/2014 6:52:00 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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14 posted on 08/08/2014 6:54:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I have a friend who is English and lives in London. He said that it is a well-known fact that if you are sick and have no advocate speaking for you and you are very sick, chances are you will be shuttled to a far corner of the hospital and left to die without food, water or pain medication.

And he said it happens all the time. So, anyone who wants to live makes sure they either get someone who can yell at the doctor and the nurses for them when they can't or they work to get private care.

15 posted on 08/08/2014 6:58:17 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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antibiotics should be denied when a death panel deems a person's "quality of life" is too low.

....and people mocked Sarah Palin when she was prescient enough to see this coming.....

16 posted on 08/08/2014 7:02:52 AM PDT by wbill
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That is a classic scene with Edward G Robinson. Unfortunately during the filming Mr. Robinson had cancer.


17 posted on 08/08/2014 7:03:14 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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This ghoul is trying to say that even antibiotics should be denied when a death panel deems a person's "quality of life" is too low.

No, he's very clearly not. Read it again.

18 posted on 08/08/2014 7:07:05 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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19 posted on 08/08/2014 7:07:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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When my Dutch friends mother was sick and elderly in Holland, her doctor refused to treat her. My friend went over there and took her to Germany for treatment but it was too late she died on the way.

European medicine, BARF!


20 posted on 08/08/2014 7:07:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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