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Former CIA spy: Putin using Soviet tactics to confuse US
Fox News ^ | July 29, 2014 | Christopher Snyder

Posted on 07/29/2014 10:14:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: kabar

Your comments re-written:

There are too many liberals willing to believe Obama. Those of us who have seen this movie before know full well how the Democrats and now the Progressives operate. They lie and plant disinformation.


21 posted on 07/30/2014 2:25:57 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Southack
They did. They're with us. They applied enhance sanctions on Putin yesterday. It's going to cost them a lot of money. Given the choice between effete, decadent democracy and old fashion Russian chauvinism, led by a strutting, shirtless, former commie turned ultra-nationalist dictator, they chose the world they know best.
22 posted on 07/30/2014 2:43:57 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Chgogal

The Democrat Party never ran the Gulag or belonged to the secret police that made it possible, like Putin. It’s probalby a meaningless distinction for you.


23 posted on 07/30/2014 2:46:03 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Southack

Yes, I have. Sounds like I am talking to a sore loser who makes up excuses for why people don’t buy his ideas. Where’s the nearest concentration camp now? Why hasn’t Alex Jones been dragged out of his home and executed by the Illuminati agents? Why hasn’t Alex Jones or some other conspiracy loon been poisoned to death? In Russia, it has happened recently.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 3:19:50 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: RC one
How exactly is Vladmir Putin threatening your liberty or your constitution?

Especially when compared to Zero and his minions.

Take a close look at the 'Get Russia' crowd and you'll see it full of authoritarians of a different stripe desperate to hold onto power.

25 posted on 07/30/2014 4:27:09 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Southack
You may not have noticed, but our government is spying on us. Reading every email. Recording every phone call. Paying spies and activists to post disinformation online to “adjust” public opinion.

This has been going on a long time ever since the days of J. Edgar Hoover. After 9/11, the environment and the technology made it possible to widen the net and be even more intrusive. Obama is just part of the problem of a government bureaucracy that has become too powerful and remains unchecked.

Sending the IRS after Tea Party members. Sending the EPA to raid guitar factories. Sending Homeland Security to confiscate Land overs. Pitting the Department of the Interior against our ranchers.

Public employee unions have become partisan arms of the Democrats who support Big Government and more benefits for public employees. In turn the public employee unions are major contributors to the Democrats. The career bureaucrats don't have to be directed by the Dems to do these things. They do them because they support the same goals and objectives. We need to seriously look at curtailing the power of the permanent bureaucracy. It will be very difficult to do given its partisan nature. The Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act has been subverted.

A radical could make a case that a nuke exploding in DC would improve U.S. civil rights nationwide.

We get the government we deserve.

26 posted on 07/30/2014 5:47:46 AM PDT by kabar
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To: RC one

Putin is an external threat to our strategic national interests. Obama represents a threat to our liberty and Constitutional government. It is not an either/or proposition. Both are threats to this country.


27 posted on 07/30/2014 6:51:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: RC one

That is childish

Global threats and the eternal threat of Russia and it’s reemergence under Putin, is a topic that stands on it’s own, regardless of who is president.

So far you indicate no interest or knowledge in foreign affairs or history or military matters, and want to bring the thread into a discussion of the 2012 election, Mitt Romney and who is president.

We didn’t suspend discussions of Russia and the USSR during the Carter years.

The next thread may be about China and it’s blue water navy, and it’s building an attack military.

Your ignorance is revealed when you indicate that you think resistance can start years after the war is lost.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 7:23:38 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When is the CIA going to do something useful, like tell us who Obama really is?

Or, that Obama actually works for Putin?

You know, the whole “I’ll have more flexibility after the election” thing.....


29 posted on 07/30/2014 7:32:55 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: elhombrelibre

Germany chose us now...when it’s summer.

“Now” isn’t in question. After the first Winter freeze when Putin shuts off their heating gas...that’s a better question.

Will they choose us...or...being warm?


30 posted on 07/30/2014 8:29:36 AM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: kabar
Putin is an external threat to our strategic national interests

He's a threat to dollar hegemony and, therefore, a threat to our welfare/warfare/debt state.

31 posted on 07/30/2014 10:52:57 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

China is a much bigger threat to our dollar hegemony. Russia has the world’s 8th largest economy behind Brazil and just ahead of Italy. It has the 77th highest per capita GDP just behind Antigua and Barbuda and ahead of Croatia.


32 posted on 07/30/2014 1:38:37 PM PDT by kabar
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To: RC one

What’s the saying, “An incompetent within your own house is far more dangerous than ten competent enemies without.”


33 posted on 07/30/2014 1:57:31 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: RC one

It’s not even just about the dollar, China is in that passage as well. Russia and the U.S. combined have more than 90 percent of all nuclear weapons Russia. Even though Russia is a thuggish regime, they aren’t beyond the threat of trying to take us down with them via nuclear war if they feel desperate enough to do so.


34 posted on 07/30/2014 2:02:47 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: kabar

Russia is however the largest oil producing nation on earth and since dollar hegemony is inextricably linked to petroleum trading thanks to the petrodollar arrangement, Russia is in a unique position to threaten dollar hegemony simply by trading oil and other fossil fuels for currencies other than dollars which they are doing and which, IMHO, is what actually underlies Obama’s ramped up anti-Putin/pro-Ukranian rhetoric. Many political figures have attempted to trade their oil for currencies other than dollars over the past decade or and they’re all conveniently dead now. Putin is a tougher nut however.


35 posted on 07/30/2014 2:09:27 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One more reason to believer Obama is tied in with Communists.. He often chooses to say the exact opposite of the truth... It’s a lie tactic that works with people who believe in ‘authority figures’... and Catholics in general.


36 posted on 07/30/2014 2:11:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal elites want immigrants as servants providing cheap labor, drugs, and competition for jobs.)
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To: Morpheus2009

I don’t think Russia is the one feeling desperate. See post 35 in this thread.


37 posted on 07/30/2014 2:15:21 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
Russia is however the largest oil producing nation on earth and since dollar hegemony is inextricably linked to petroleum trading thanks to the petrodollar arrangement, Russia is in a unique position to threaten dollar hegemony simply by trading oil and other fossil fuels for currencies other than dollars which they are doing and which, IMHO, is what actually underlies Obama’s ramped up anti-Putin/pro-Ukranian rhetoric

Russia is the second largest exporter of oil behind Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is the largest producer of oil followed by the US and Russia. The US will soon surpass Saudi Arabia as the world's biggest producer of oil.

The U.S. will remain the world’s biggest oil producer this year after overtaking Saudi Arabia and Russia as extraction of energy from shale rock spurs the nation’s economic recovery, Bank of America Corp. said.

U.S. production of crude oil, along with liquids separated from natural gas, surpassed all other countries this year with daily output exceeding 11 million barrels in the first quarter, the bank said in a report today. The country became the world’s largest natural gas producer in 2010. The International Energy Agency said in June that the U.S. was the biggest producer of oil and natural gas liquids.

Many political figures have attempted to trade their oil for currencies other than dollars over the past decade or and they’re all conveniently dead now. Putin is a tougher nut however.

As much as we deride the state of our economy, it is still the place that most of the globe considers to be the safest place. And it is the largest economy that can absorb huge investments. I am not saying the dollar is invincible, but there is no other alternative yet.

38 posted on 07/30/2014 2:28:44 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Wiki data is for 2013. Your data is for 2012. Russia was the largest oil producing nation on earth in 2013. according to wiki.
39 posted on 07/30/2014 2:56:43 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
Wiki doesn't always get it right. I gave you a 2014 link that says otherwise. Regardless, what is most important is who is the biggest exporter. The Saudis are still number one.

The Russians are locked into oil revenue as there major source of income. They are subject to the ups and downs of the oil market. They are a gas station masquerading as a country. They are also a country rife with corruption.

May 2014--Russian oil output, the world's largest, slipped by 0.2 percent to 10.54 million barrels per day in April, declining for the fourth month in a row as production from new fields failed to offset a slowdown from mature deposits.

This is the longest streak of declining monthly output for years and is a negative signal for the state budget, half of whose revenues come from sales of oil and gas.

40 posted on 07/30/2014 3:17:51 PM PDT by kabar
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