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Shooter's Parents Sped to Try to Stop Him
Newser ^ | May 26, 2014 | Rob Quinn

Posted on 05/26/2014 3:09:55 AM PDT by Enterprise

"When Elliot Rodger's parents realized just how dangerous their disturbed son was, they made a desperate attempt to try to stop him. They received a copy of his 141-page manifesto and saw a YouTube video outlining his plans for his "Day of Retribution" on Friday night and called 911 before rushing to Santa Barbara in separate cars, a family friend tells the New York Daily News. They heard about the shooting spree while they were on their way. "They were hoping against hope," the friend says. "They are in inconceivable pain."

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"He had been in therapy since childhood, but turned his back on mental health care when he turned 18. He had no criminal history, never explicitly threatened others, and even when his worried parents requested police check on him, deputies found no reason to place him in an involuntary psychiatric hold."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: criminallyinsane; elliotrodger; knifingattacks; massmurderer; roger; rogers; santabarbara; shootings; stabbings; suvrampage; vehicularassault; video
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To: Enterprise

Most likely hardcore members of the HollyWierd cult who always lecture us how to raise our children. Why would you need to put a kid in therapy at birth?

This is where the earth worship cult leads you.

Pray America wakes up


61 posted on 05/26/2014 6:13:17 AM PDT by bray (Palin 2016)
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To: a fool in paradise

In the old days we had Mental Institutions then the Liberals thought they were two mean so that got rid of them and used the land for other purposes like strip malls and condos.


62 posted on 05/26/2014 6:18:21 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: ArmstedFragg
I am thinking the same, then thinking that the parents lived apart, so they both get this manifesto, read it at the exact same time, (what are the chances of them getting this at the exact same time and read at the exact same time) then call each other and decide their child is up to something, then drive up to what they don't know may be happening? How much time did all that take? Their story is impossible.

Then seeing the raging father spew that hatred toward the NRA and gun owners??? all I saw in that clip was HATRED for everyone except himself who did not do his job as a parent. No wonder the boy was insane.

63 posted on 05/26/2014 6:20:53 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: VTenigma
I agree, but sadly those parents did not know how to be parents or have any values themseleves, BUT they are new NORM.

The new norm is what hollywood and rappers say it is now and we are the crazies, until they kill someone as this boy did, then it becomes us the crazies who are to blame. Just the way I see it.

64 posted on 05/26/2014 6:28:35 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: DeaconRed
John Morgan (supreme liberal ambulance chaser) would be on this like stink on do-do if it were in Florida.

I have to hand it to John Morgan. He is the only person capable of making a lousy odor emanate from the radio when his let's-sue-them commercials come on.

65 posted on 05/26/2014 6:32:20 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Global Warming is caused by illegal immigrants!)
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To: ArmstedFragg
being in Santa Barbara and reading after the fact local blogs like Edhat and knowing the layout, there is a distinct timeline that is starting to make sense.

The only thing I am struggling with is when did he kill his roommates in relation to leaving the home to kill.

If you think about it is takes both good timing, energy, and time to stab three healthy young bucks. It id n't say he had any military or martial arts training thus I am wondering if he killed them either throughout the day or before sending the whacked out emails to his therapist and family.

It sounds as though he sent out the email right before getting in his car and he lived in Isla Vista. So that took two seconds to start his killing. My thought is the therapist called the Mom as soon as she got the email and checked it out. Mom checked out the sites, called Dad, called 9-11 and they headed up here to try to intervene and/or do something to stop their son as at that time they did not know he had done anything.

I would think they were very concerned when they heard about mass killing in Santa Barbara on the way up here. Yet that sort of information is still difficult to process emotionally. That your own child may have just killed a bunch of people.

Having said all of this. I do wish Daddy O would have spent more time with his son that was clearly struggling. Rather then spend his off time shooting women's uh, hmmm, glutes. What a selfish jerk! He new wife sounded just as narcissistic.

66 posted on 05/26/2014 6:32:32 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Enterprise

I read earlier that he had been diagnosed as autistic, possibly suffering from Asperger syndrome. Many people like this are difficult socially, but they’re not homicidal maniacs; however, it’s probably harder to tell when they’re about to go off the rails.

I also read, in one of the first reports, that Rodgers actually was living in a sort of sheltered living situation, and that the apartment was rented by a mental health group of some kind. He lived there with three roommates (the men he stabbed to death), and I would assume the reason that their names did not appear in the press was that it would have been a violation of confidentiality.

He was supposedly under the “care” of therapists at the time of the killings. Fat lot of good it did. And regardless of his parents’ parenting skills, there probably wasn’t much they could do other than try to get treatment for him, as they did. No matter how much money you have, it seems to be impossible to get treatment for a child or dependent with mental problems. There’s always the implication that it’s the fault of the parents (it’s not, except in cases of truly horrible abuse) and therefore they should just deal with it. But how do you deal with a crazy person whose whole view of the world is completely at variance with reality, and who is completely locked into his mental illness in such a way that reality cannot penetrate?

Somebody like that needs residential treatment in a situation where he really isn’t free to come and go, and certainly not free to go out and buy guns, as he did. The apartment, if it was in fact a sheltered living situation, clearly wasn’t a high enough level of confinement or treatment, and furthermore the fact that it probably wasn’t a commitment per se meant that there would be no record of his problem and no way for the gun dealer to check his eligibility for purchasing the guns.

So the problem really goes back to our inability to deal with mental illness.


67 posted on 05/26/2014 6:32:45 AM PDT by livius
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To: Sooth2222

IMO the worst thing about BMWs is that their maintenance is three times as expensive as most other cars.Not that they break down more often, it’s the $90 oil/filer changes, etc, etc.


68 posted on 05/26/2014 6:42:50 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: livius

So the problem really goes back to our inability to deal with mental illness.


As I read the threads here, there is a undercurrent that we need to pass a law to solve this problem. And I am surprised that some politician has not presented legislation already but I know it is in the works.

The reality is that we will always have mental illness, just like we have the poor. Now if a politician said that we wouldn’t elect him would we?

So where do we turn?


69 posted on 05/26/2014 6:43:02 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: TalBlack
Did this kid work? Where’d he get the BMW and the guns?

Good questions. From what I'm able to gather, this kid never worked, never had to work as he had wealthy parents who showered him with gifts and allowed him to live in their mansion where he apparently played video games most of the day. (He was 22 years old.)

This is a case of "idle hands are the devil's workshop".

Wealthy parents who allow their children to live what I like to call an "unearned lifestyle" are doing them no favors at all. Nothing good comes from handing your kid a BMW and telling him that he never has to work a day in his life. You are snuffing out their ambition and rendering their lives worthless. Just look at the Kennedy family for one example. None of those over-privileged Kennedy kids ever turned out right.

70 posted on 05/26/2014 6:47:09 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Sooth2222

Whatsurprises many people is that a 10-12 year-old Mercedes can often be worth no more than an 8-10 year-old nice Honda Accord or Toyota Camry.

Rich people don’t want a 10 year-old luxury car, and an average person doesn’t want the very high expense associated with maintaining a 10 year-old luxury car that may not be all that reliable. Lexus and Acura might be exceptions, but they are built by Toyota and Honda.


71 posted on 05/26/2014 6:49:16 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ArmstedFragg

I’d believe a documented and dated police report. Nothing else.


72 posted on 05/26/2014 6:56:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Hardastarboard

That was a victim’s parent.

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73 posted on 05/26/2014 6:58:12 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Enterprise

“His dad sells pictures of women’s butts.”

Well,,,I like looking at women’s butts!


74 posted on 05/26/2014 6:59:08 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: freeangel

In California ?


75 posted on 05/26/2014 6:59:35 AM PDT by Mears
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To: ArmstedFragg

Was it a pistol? In my state you have to be 21.


76 posted on 05/26/2014 7:00:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DaveA37

So if he bought the gun(s) himself he lied on the Form 4473 then


77 posted on 05/26/2014 7:04:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DeaconRed

” a violet video game company”

Don’t they do any other colors? 8^)


78 posted on 05/26/2014 7:04:53 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: FlJoePa

Wow. That’s a whole lotta pretty in one place.


79 posted on 05/26/2014 7:05:54 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Cowboy Bob
The parents must have talked to lawyers, and this is was they are saying in an attempt to avoid lawsuits.

Wasn't the shooter over 18? Why would his parents be concerned about lawsuits? They're not legally responsible for him anymore.

If they were legally responsible for him, it appears they clearly would've kept him in mental health care.

I just don't see how they're liable once he's passed 18 and he was allowed by the state (again, no one stopped him) to discontinue treatment.

Granted, the parents are failure by themselves -- this however sounds more like a failure of the State's mental health resources to properly identify him as an 'at risk' individual.

80 posted on 05/26/2014 7:06:27 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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