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A Conservative Case for Marriage Equality and Zots
The Princeton Tory ^ | February 11, 2014 | Evan Draim

Posted on 03/13/2014 3:56:08 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist

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To: MHGinTN

They’re not invading. Its just a troll or an incredibly misguided young person. He thinks we should be more ‘libertarian’ like the Founders, but fails to acknowledge that the Founders despised sodomy.


61 posted on 03/13/2014 4:47:09 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Aqua Buddhist

IBTZ


62 posted on 03/13/2014 4:53:37 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

There is no conservative case...Zip...Zilch...Nada.


63 posted on 03/13/2014 4:54:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Aqua Buddhist

What was your point in posting this sophistry?

Read FR’s homepage. If you cannot abide by that, go to DU.


64 posted on 03/13/2014 4:54:56 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Aqua Buddhist
By denying certain individuals the ability to marry their loved ones, you are telling them that their relationship (and, by extension, their sexual orientation) is somehow inferior or “not as good” as your own.

There are aspects and consequences of encoding into law same sex marriage that the proponents conveniently overlook.

First of all, their argument is based on the false premise that sexual orientation does not matter, that is, men and women are interchangeable. Men and women are NOT interchangeable. The added costs of violating natural law are substantial.

The consequences of homosexual activity have already significantly increased the cost of medical care to the population at-large. Costs of diagnosis and testing have increased. Because of the risk of cancer and other diseases, the once-simple diagnosis of a simple sore throat could be instead be caused by a sexually transmitted disease. Additional and costly tests are required where they once were not needed. Hemorrhoids could be instead anal cancer, rectal gonorrhea, or rectal chlamydia. You will pay for those additional costs, not corrupt lawmakers and lawyers in black robes, or misguided people who only want to help.

The encoding into law perversion will adversely impact the culture resulting in the spread of AIDs and other STDs, the destruction of the family, and increased risk to the physical and mental health of the population, with attendant increases in cost of health care.

All of this coming to your neighborhood thanks to misguided foolish people who wish to overlook the consequences to society of encoding into law deviant behavior.

65 posted on 03/13/2014 4:57:14 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Am I IBTZ? If so, I totally deserve some Viking kitties!


66 posted on 03/13/2014 4:58:19 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Marriage Equality is a farce.
We do not allow children to marry
We do not allow pervert pedophiles to marry
We do not allow brothers and sisters to marry.
and on and on.
So marriage equality is a joke. Just a dog and pony show the homofacist use to push their agenda.


67 posted on 03/13/2014 4:58:40 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Endorsing “homosexual” any thing is endorsing Evil behavior and normalizing it, It is not only dehumanizing and vile, it denies Natural Law which is the basis of our Legal System and Rule of Law. (..Laws of Nature and nature’s God).

Any “Justice” system that promotes degrading, unnatural behaviors is unconstitutional since “Justice” is always a Virtue. Homosexual behavior is sexist and exclusionary in unnatural, puerile, nihilistic ways, and makes little children (human beings) into commodities to be sold and bought—and women’s bodies into breeding machines. It is like slavery-—in that it makes human beings into a “Means”.

Homosexuality eliminates the Love and Union, which is the most humanizing act in procreation, which is necessary for the humanization (Love/nurture) of biological children to make them into emotionally healthy productive people who love both males and females because their environment was emotionally healthy and embedded the essential social cues of interacting with all human beings.

There is no study that proves homosexuals raise emotionally healthy children. The studies prove children can not interact correctly with the opposite sex and have a warped idea of males and females and Natural Law (Logic). There is a warpage-—because of the denial of the biological parent which is unnatural and creates artificial environment.

It is like removing a new born animal from its mother.....it will destroy the possibility of normal development. A foal removed too early from its mother can not embed the social skills needed to survive-—and will have to be killed if it is not handled by man-—it is like monkeys removed from their natural environment——they will be aggressive and antisocial if removed from their biological mother and not raised in natural surroundings.

Homosexuality is evil.....it denies children a biological parent which is their Natural Right which should NEVER be done on purpose for such evil selfish reasons of using other human beings in degrading ways.


68 posted on 03/13/2014 4:59:08 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Virginia should be for ALL lovers.

Including pedophiles?


69 posted on 03/13/2014 4:59:43 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

“Luckily, same-sex partners can actually help save the institution of marriage by making it relevant again and reversing a downward trend in marriage rates.”

“We must marry more and stay married because gays are marrying and staying together at such a high rate.”

“We respect the institution of marriage more and have made it more relevant because the state has redefined it to include same sex partners, so it is obviously relevant and important.”

“Like civil divorce and remarriage, ‘gay marriage’ has really done a lot of good for the institution, and made marriage all the more relevant.”

It all makes so much sense it hurts. Truly.

Freegards


70 posted on 03/13/2014 5:00:03 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I don’t see what any of those cases has to do with the topic at hand.


71 posted on 03/13/2014 5:03:14 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

I wonder if you know that Reagan was no libertarian and in that 1975 interview when he was campaigning and being interviewed by the libertarians, he opened with a typical Reagan statement of commonality, which was easy for him with his economic degree, and then he proceeded to explain why they were wrong in their liberalism.

There is a reason that Ayn Rand despised Reagan, and that the libertarians had their greatest election ever, in 1980, trying to defeat him.

For a goofy, anti-conservative, libertarian nooby, you are pretty aggressive with your trolling.


72 posted on 03/13/2014 5:05:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: TheOldLady

Get your zot graphics ready.


73 posted on 03/13/2014 5:07:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: ansel12

Actually, in my experience it’s the other direction.


74 posted on 03/13/2014 5:08:14 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Graybeard58

Are you calling it? Please be my guest, my friend.

I’ll hang out here and wait for the lightning.


75 posted on 03/13/2014 5:09:13 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Aqua Buddhist

By this point it is pretty obvious which way the wind is blowing on same sex marriage. The nations youth is basically unanimous in support of redefining marriage, and every demographic that is not collecting social security is in favor to some extent. More and more Republicans are bailing out from the protect marriage ship and the issue is a clear loser nationally.

Should we change out beliefs as to the sanctity of marriage? No. We can’t. Atleast I can’t, because it is about my faith. But we should recognize we are a minority viewpoint on the issue. Speaking to homosexuals with love and kindness is something we should have been doing to begin with, and we should definitely do it now more than ever. Politically we should stick to our guns but not make this the main issue of national campaigns since its basically a loser.

What do we do now? What we should have done to begin with. Live your faith, be faithful in your marriage, do not engage in homosexuality yourself and teach your kids likewise. Witness to a homosexual, both about his sin and about Christianity in general. Non of this requires state power.

Oh, and God is still in control.


76 posted on 03/13/2014 5:10:02 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

So you’re sticking to your earlier points that Reagan was a liberal?

You truly are a useless troll.


77 posted on 03/13/2014 5:11:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: BurningOak

The bottom line is that making it a political issue in the first place degrades the spiritual beliefs that inform one’s opinion of the matter.


78 posted on 03/13/2014 5:12:31 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The point is that libertarian thought is a good conduit for educating misguided liberals.


79 posted on 03/13/2014 5:13:20 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

It’s so cruel to children to let them vote. Youth should have protection from their callowness.

You really didn’t have to post this depressing drivel.


80 posted on 03/13/2014 5:13:54 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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