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Ron Paul: Crimea has the right to join Russia, and U.S. sanctions would be “criminal”
Hotair ^ | 03/09/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/10/2014 11:47:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Crimea themselves voted in a referendum in 1991 to separate themselves from Russia, with 94% of the vote. They then joined Ukraine, of their own free will.

And no doubt the Neo-Nazis are working in cahoots with the Jewish Prime Minister of Ukraine in their plans to purge all Jews and Russians from the country.

21 posted on 03/10/2014 12:09:51 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with paul on much of what he said. I believe should have self-determination. However Russians sent military in there before an election was held. How do we know there will be fair elections given Russian force breathing down their necks? So it is more complex than rules-based types like Rand Paul, Ron Paul etc can deal with. I am not sure what actions we should take but we should be opposed when a country invades another country.


22 posted on 03/10/2014 12:10:18 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

Well we don’t have any right to dictate what people in Crimea or Russia do.

Sanctions are mostly just a means of fooling the morons at home into thinking we’re being tough.


23 posted on 03/10/2014 12:12:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind
There were protests turned violent (probably engineered by outside interests) to overthrow the majority elected government. So why shouldn't the majority be allowed to leave the government the minority took over?

Ron Paul is correct. He usually frames things in a way that provokes dissent.

24 posted on 03/10/2014 12:14:04 PM PDT by grania
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

What are the top ten ways Commies are better than Nazis?


25 posted on 03/10/2014 12:15:49 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with Ron. We have no interests there worth defending. The Crimea was a part of Russia until 1954 when Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine as a gift and the Russian Black Sea fleet is based there. Why should we care what happens to a province that is ethnically predominately Russian and wants to be a part of Russia. The Europeans have more interests in the region than we do but they aren’t interested in imposing sanctions on Russia either.


26 posted on 03/10/2014 12:16:53 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Then, I guess it would be all right for Arizona, New Mexico, California, and/or Texas to secede once they are loaded with enough Mexicans. It's only a matter of time.
27 posted on 03/10/2014 12:18:31 PM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: Corporate Democrat
Ron Paul: When in doubt, blame America.

Ron Paul: When in doubt, blame the crony corporatist neocons who call themselves America.

And they have earned plenty.

28 posted on 03/10/2014 12:21:16 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul and Alex Jones are Soros tools and hired propagandists!


29 posted on 03/10/2014 12:21:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The referendum has two choices: join Russia or join Russia.


30 posted on 03/10/2014 12:31:41 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Delta Dawn

lol Well. I think it deserved to be posted three times. I’m with ya.

Would love to see a do over of that CPAC straw poll.

I mean, I’ll be the first to say “no troops. No war.” on this one but ... nothing? Sanctions are “criminal”?

Here’s hoping this nitwit is a mere footnote to 2016. What a joke.


31 posted on 03/10/2014 12:36:25 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

The vast majority of Crimeans want to be in Russia rather than under control of a new-Nazi regime in Kiev.

First part of your statement is right, don’t know if the new government of Ukrine is new nazi, we will se in the near future, however, a free vote in a place where there have never been our kind of democrasy is hardly likely to create an american kind of government is not likely, Ukraine is not that differant from Egypt in that regard even if they are catholicks rather than muslims, as they have a history of beeig ruled rather than governd


32 posted on 03/10/2014 12:36:51 PM PDT by munin (MSNBC?)
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To: SeekAndFind

We shouldn’t interfere because at this time we do not have enough influence.

Any moves from the U.S against Russia will certainly provoke Chinese adventurism in the South China sea.

You want to see tough times, wait until the $dollars evaporate.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 12:40:49 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: SeekAndFind; grania; caww
The United States recognize a non-democratically-elected president and government in Ukraine, issued from a coup d'état, but won't recognize a referendum of self-determination organized in an autonomous republic with a legitimate parliment, government and Constitution.

That says it all, the US president administration pi$$ on democratic principles, when it suit them.

The US (renamed NATO for the occasion) intervention in Kosovo in 1999, created a precedent in international law, we can see now its consequences.

US supported every secessionist group that wanted to break away from Yugoslavia, they bombed Yugoslavia into smitherness in 1999 to split it in two, and they EVEN declared the Yugoslav Army to be an "occupier" on its own territory. The Assembly of Kosovo, a province of Serbia, approved an unilateral declaration of independence from Serbia on 17 February 2008. Kosovo was soon recognized as a sovereign state FIRST by the United States, Germany, Italy, France, the United Kingdom, and others ...

The US and EU cannot have it both ways. They can’t say, for example, that the right of Albanians to self-determination in Kosovo trumps Serbia’s right to territorial integrity, and then turn around and say that Ukraine’s right to territorial integrity trumps the right of Russians in Crimea to self-determination.

Anyway, the people of Crimea don't give a flying f..k that Obama and his inept administration recognize or not their decision on their future. Obama is not their president, is NOTHING to them, and he can go to hell, for all they care.

34 posted on 03/10/2014 12:42:10 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul is an idiot. If a country colonizes another country, deports huge percentages of the native population, forces the remaninder to speak the language of the occupier, then eventually holds an election in the areas where the decendents of its colonist and those that have been forcibly “russified”, I wonder what the result would be. There is more than one way to rig an election.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 12:42:36 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: deweyfrank
Sure. And States have the 'right' to leave the US, and have self determination.

Secession is a American principle.

36 posted on 03/10/2014 12:45:53 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: SeekAndFind
take it Team Rand wouldn’t agree that freezing the assets of billionaire Russian kleptocrats is an impermissible act of “theft.”

As opposed to those good honest Ukrainian billionaires the Maidan radicals in Kiev appointed to govern over the industrial regions in the east in a show of "unity".

Got it.

37 posted on 03/10/2014 1:06:29 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Marguerite

Well said!


38 posted on 03/10/2014 1:07:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Theoria
Ok. How about them being annexed by Mexico. Is that an American principle.
39 posted on 03/10/2014 1:09:20 PM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: SeekAndFind

R-U-N Paul, the ignoramus, speaks again!


40 posted on 03/10/2014 1:13:58 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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