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Ted Cruz Calls For the Abolition of the IRS!
Political Outcast ^ | Mark Horne

Posted on 03/07/2014 11:58:34 AM PST by SoConPubbie

So let it be officially known that Ted Cruz has adopted a Political Outcast plank as part of his own platform. I pray he keeps hammering at it.

From the National Review blog:

“We ought to abolish the IRS and instead move to a simple flat tax,” Cruz said on Fox News over the weekend.

“Put down how much you earn, put down a deduction for charitable contributions, for home mortgage, and how much you owe,” he continued. “It ought to be just a simple, one-page postcard.”

“Take the agents, bureaucracy out of Washington, and limit the power of the government,” he said.

Some thoughts:

First, some will complain that, unlike Ron Paul, he is not campaigning to abolish the income tax. But remember, the IRS is completely a machine in the hands of Democrats for destroying the Republican base. The Democrats know it and openly talk about it. This is what is driving Ted Cruz and I think it is good to stay on point. Trying to end income tax would raise a whole new level of opposition that might jeopardize this needed reform.

Second, though, I am not excited that Cruz mentioned deducting the home mortgage. Why not just set the flat rate low enough to make homeowners okay with losing the deduction? There is no need to manipulate people through the tax code to induce them to prefer buying to renting.

Third, the only reason this is really exciting is because of who Ted Cruz is. If almost any other politician advocated this position I would assume that they were just trying to get votes and planning on “growing in office” if they won an election (Rand Paul being a possible exception). Not Cruz. All the people in the media and the GOP who claim he damaged “the Republican brand” (right, because the GOP brand was soooo good before the shutdown) just don’t get it. Or perhaps they do and that makes them hate Cruz all the more. Cruz has more credit with voters than probably any other politician because he has proven that he does what he believes in.

So he is probably the only one who could speak about abolishing the IRS and give voters an immediate certainty that he will do all he can to abolish the IRS.

May God grant him success and us deliverance!


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1 posted on 03/07/2014 11:58:34 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; skinkinthegrass; Bikkuri; o2bfree; 12th_Monkey; 230FMJ; TWhiteBear; painter; tbw2; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


2 posted on 03/07/2014 11:59:45 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Sounds good to me. We wouldn’t miss them at all.


3 posted on 03/07/2014 12:01:38 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: SoConPubbie

It would be nice but this is just political grandstanding. Too many accountants and lawyers depend on the byzantine tax code for their livelihood.


4 posted on 03/07/2014 12:10:52 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: SoConPubbie
"A simple flat tax." On what? Income? Here is a government bureaucrat with his handy dandy 20,000 page manual to help you decide what is income.

Idiots! A flat tax may be 'fairer' but it WILL NOT be more 'fiddle proof'.

5 posted on 03/07/2014 12:13:31 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon (center)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Any income tax is inherently immoral, because it is a tax on the measure of what one provides to the economy.

A consumption tax, however, would be more moral as it taxes what one consumes from the economy.

And, there would be no reason at all for any government agency to interact with an individual person, as it would be the retailers collecting the tax at the point of sale.


6 posted on 03/07/2014 12:16:14 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SoConPubbie

WHOA! HOORAY Ted Cruz! Abolish the U.S.A.’s (United Socialists of America) GESTAPO?

Just DO IT.

OBAMACARE - gone, too? TOTALITARIANCARE must go.

Above all, if you wish to be strong, begin by rooting out every particle of socialism that may have crept into your legislation. - Bastiat

It’s time for whistleblowers to step up./sarcasm The GESTAPO has its own program (its not what you might think) with rewards...

http://www.irs.gov/uac/History-of-the-Whilstleblower-Informant-Program

and the GESTAPO goes after other “whistleblowers” exposing government ineptitude, corruption, and fraud…

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/18/politics/whistleblower-irs/

IRS - long history of scandal…

http://theweek.com/article/index/245319/the-irss-long-history-of-scandal

DISMANTLE socialist/totalitarian agencies.


7 posted on 03/07/2014 12:17:01 PM PST by PGalt
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To: SoConPubbie

I’d like to see a national sales tax.

Everyone pays.

No one files a return.

No exemptions.

Pay at the cashier.


8 posted on 03/07/2014 12:18:38 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SoConPubbie
For sure! However, only really helps if you reject the extension that the 16th Amendment allowed DC to levy direct taxes upon citizens. I don't believe this. It was formalizing the Corporate Excise Tax of 1908(ish) which the USSC found unconstitutional; congress formalized it.

Apportionment is the _only_ way to stabilize the sovereign status of US states verses DC.

9 posted on 03/07/2014 12:19:59 PM PST by veracious
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To: SoConPubbie

The Road to Freedom is paved with socialists/totalitarians.

Roadkill/SpeedBUMP!


10 posted on 03/07/2014 12:20:46 PM PST by PGalt
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To: SoConPubbie

The reason that the mortgage deduction is left in is that when surveyed years ago, people said they wouldn’t vote for a flat tax because they would lose their mortgage deduction. Stupid but true. We have to share this could country with some pretty dim CFL’s. (that’s a play on words there.)
(hopefully people know what a play on words is, but I’m not so sure sometimes.)
(The word is bulbs as in light bulbs.)
(CFL is compact fluorescent light)
(sometimes things just aren’t funny when you have to explain them in detail)


11 posted on 03/07/2014 12:24:48 PM PST by webheart (Watch out for the bots! They will disagree with you!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Replacing the income tax with a "simpler" income tax is not the answer.

The income tax, in any form, is a Tyrannical abomination.

Federal taxes should be consumption (sales) based.

And if the rate is too high, it means that government is too big. The solution is not to have higher rates but to make government smaller and bring it within its Constitutional bounds.

12 posted on 03/07/2014 12:26:53 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: exit82

Puts the power in the people’s hands and probably scares the heck out of the bureaucrats. “What happens if people stop buying things and the revenue stream dries up?”

They prefer the income tax, too because most people don’t notice the taxes as much. Whereas, if taxpayers have to pay $3000 in taxes on a car that they are about to purchase, they will notice it. Taxpayers might complain more too when that tax increases from $3000 to $4000.


13 posted on 03/07/2014 12:28:51 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: exit82
"I’d like to see a national sales tax. Everyone pays. No one files a return."

Great idea...the cashier simply keeps all of the tax since there is no one to enforce it. As you said, "no returns" and no steeenkin' IRS to collect. Now, again, how do we pay for the Armed Forces?

14 posted on 03/07/2014 12:30:04 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

How do states collect sales taxes? Same thing.


15 posted on 03/07/2014 12:31:11 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Chuckster

CPA’s and attorneys do not now do productive work when they are taking care of tax-related matters.

There would be a huge dislocation for these folks of course, but in the long run it would be vastly better for the country as a whole.

And likely for many of them as well over time.

Productive work instead of wasted effort on byzantine governmental compliance. Always the better choice.


16 posted on 03/07/2014 12:37:09 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Cruz/Palin. Only hope for America.
17 posted on 03/07/2014 12:42:16 PM PST by Logical me
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To: SoConPubbie

The current tax code is written the way it is for these reasons.

To make one person think he is getting a benefit from the government at another’s expense.

To take money from those who earn it legally and honestly and give it to those who vote for more government.

To intimidate the public, and keep them in constant fear of their government and to train them to be compliant sheep.

The politicians wrote it the way it is with full knowledge of what they are doing. They like it that way, and will fight tooth and nail to keep it the way it is.


18 posted on 03/07/2014 12:44:35 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: SoConPubbie; Taxman

HEY ALRIGHT!

I’m all about eliminating the IRS - but a flat tax won’t do that. A flat tax keeps the IRS, keeps paycheck withholding, keeps payroll taxes, is not border adjusted, and keeps business taxes.

A national retail sales tax fixes [eliminates] all those problems.


19 posted on 03/07/2014 12:44:55 PM PST by Principled
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To: exit82

They have departments of Revenues. And, they only collect sales or TPT for business vending products. Can we assume your idea would do the same and exempt every service business? Well, then Bank of America need not pay any tax, nor would any airline, right?


20 posted on 03/07/2014 12:56:00 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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