Posted on 01/29/2014 7:14:41 AM PST by conniew
Thanks, backhoe! <3
Mark Steyn has been SO good about this! He wrote about it on his site and he has been retweeting me and tweeting the link to our indiegogo.
He’s the man!
A pastor out west here was ordered by a Human Rights Tribunal to retract a letter he wrote to the editor and given a cease and desist order that basically said he was never to speak negatively about homosexuality again in his life.
Fortunately a court overturned it. But, it could easily have gone the other way.
BTW, his letter was not hateful. He simply stated his Christian viewpoint.
Thanks, Markusprime! Good to see you!
Unless we stepped away and someone in another country took over the site.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
There might be a way.
For those of us in the United States: This is why American conservatives need to remember the importance of the First Amendment. Liberals can be very annoying, and their attacks on conservatives in office can be disruptive and even dangerous, but it is absolutely essential that citizens have the right to criticize their government. That means we need to defend the right of anyone, even liberals, to spout nonsense and make idiotic attacks via the public press.
The John Peter Zenger case in colonial New York, via jury nullification, established the principle that truth is an absolute defense against libel. Subsequent case law worked out the implications of that principle, including that opinion cannot be prosecuted because it can't be proved true or false. Therefore, attacks on people, even when very strongly worded, cannot be prosecuted if they are statements of opinion.
Liberals are wrong on a lot of things, but defending freedom of speech and of the press is not being “liberal” — it is being faithful to the clear original intent and written words of the Constitution.
Let's never forget that.
Canucks are such wussies if we were not covering their behinds they would be marching to a May Day tune, neck they are.
This lawyer buddy needs to go fishing with Vine and Anthony my twin cousins from Crook County the place of my birth.
Seems to me the FR could possibly offer them a forum in exchange for chipping in to FR’s site. And the domain itself could be made to redirect into that. Canada can’t do anything about what’s administered from the USA.
But it’s ultimately up to Canada whether its people want to keep on in that manner. Canada is much colder towards God than America is, with some localized exceptions. That takes a spiritual toll in cowardice.
Libel still can be successfully prosecuted in America if “actual malice” can be shown and the account is untrue. It is not impossible.
The server was in Panama. I guess it doesn’t matter where that is
If Canada wants to dig itself into such a self intimidated hole badly enough, running from its own shadow, it will. God will let that happen.
That noted, let me add the following.
The message every serious Christian should bring to homosexuals (and other sinners) is that there is a supernaturally charmed, better way to live. Too often it stops at “it’s a lousy rotten thing to do that” without offering the Lord’s hand up. And sometimes quite a powerful hand is needed to raise the practicing homosexual above pre-existing spiritual burdens which lowered his world view enough to make what he is doing now look acceptable. It is a grief to me that this is not an issue that the church has not approached square on, in person, with the people thus grievously affected.
The operation from Canada was what seemed to matter here. But even more as someone else pointed out, just saying certain things on it from Canada is being persecuted.
Canada could rise up and fix the problem with its cowardly suppression of truth. Human rights shouldn’t be that nobody criticizes you, but rather that if you do get unfairly criticized you get at least an equal soapbox to refute it.
It is the difference between a redemptive worldview and one of desperate pretense in the face of obvious evil.
I included one too many “nots” in the last sentence, which ought to read
It is a grief to me that this is not an issue that the church has approached square on, in person, with the people thus grievously affected.
Private figures can win a libel lawsuit much more easily due to relatively minor mistakes without actual malice.
The bar is very high but not impossible to meet with public officials and public figures — proving “reckless disregard for the truth” is commonly the focus of the libel lawsuit if it's clear that there was a serious error of fact.
But what appears to have happened with “Free Dominion” could not have happened under current American libel law. The person who brought the lawsuit is unquestionably a public figure, with all the high standards of proof that requires.
I'm anything but a fan of the ACLU, but on this issue of “hate speech,” the liberals are divided and there's a significant group of American liberals who are quite emphatic on the older ACLU position of allowing such things as the Nazi march in Skokie. I personally think Nazis should be prosecuted as traitors, but that's a whole different issue.
Praise God...
Communism.
Per the post above, making any negative comment is considered defamatory.
I was an early member who drifted away over time.
Swell. /s :^)
Richard Warman is clearly not a nice person and almost certainly a totalitarian. He clearly does NOT believe in human rights.
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