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Senate Adopts New Rules on Filibusters
Wall Street Journal ^ | 11/21/13 | By Janet Hook And Kristina Peterson

Posted on 11/21/2013 9:52:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Edited on 11/21/2013 9:53:53 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A bitterly divided Senate voted Thursday to ease the confirmation process for most presidential nominees, a momentous and potentially risky step that limits the ability of Republicans to block President Barack Obama's choices for executive-branch and most judicial posts.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) engineered the rules change, over Republican objections, with a complicated parliamentary maneuver that ended up placing new curbs on the use of the filibuster—a move so controversial that it is often called the "nuclear option."

"The American people believe Congress is broken. The American people believe the Senate is broken…It's time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete," Mr. Reid said.

The key vote was 52-48, with all but three Democrats voting for the change and all Republicans opposed. Democratic Sens. Carl Levin of Michigan, Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Joe Manchin of West Virginia broke from their party and voted against changing the rules.

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To: itsahoot

Yes but now they have to go on record as supporting a nominee rather than complaining about the “fillibuster”.


261 posted on 11/21/2013 4:30:28 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Vaquero
-- What's your point. --

The person I was replying to overlooked Collins as one of the (GOPe) senators who was in the gang of 14, and is still in the senate.

Not much of a point to make, but that's what the point was.

I don't recall why I mentioned Landrieu, maybe I was just impressed (not in a good way) with her hypocrisy.

262 posted on 11/21/2013 4:36:17 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: SoFloFreeper

Here comes unbridled tyranny from the left. The left is going to stack the bureaucracies and the courts!! The federal courts will rubber stamp everything the tyrannical bureaucracies choose to do. Americans are no longer free people.


263 posted on 11/21/2013 4:49:50 PM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: sunmars

Knowing the Stupid Party, they will reinstitute the filibuster when they get in power.


264 posted on 11/21/2013 5:15:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Republicans should now, as a party, filibuster every bill, every vote. They should bring the senate to a standstill and force a retreat.


265 posted on 11/21/2013 5:16:46 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Gaffer

It will be at least 2017 before they have to worry about it.


266 posted on 11/21/2013 5:17:54 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Is it me, or shouldn’t this be the most prominent news item in a while?


267 posted on 11/21/2013 5:43:38 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel

They want it to cause outrage enough to get Obamacare’s failures off the front burner.


268 posted on 11/21/2013 6:12:46 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

My powder is dry and my lead is hard....

Bring it you brown shirt Obama voters. This country boy got something for you.....


269 posted on 11/21/2013 6:41:24 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: INVAR
Mark my words, they brazenly steal every election they need in 2014. No one stops them or, even acknowledges it happens. They'll allow the Republicans to take a few.

They have zero intention of relinquishing power, that is not what this move was about.

270 posted on 11/21/2013 7:13:46 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

If they lose the senate in 2014, they will change it shortly thereafter.

Effing hypocrite traitors. Then we’ll change it and all of a sudden it will be wrong to do.

They have now set the precedent. We will make them live by their own precedent shortly when they’re the ones that get the short end of the stick.


271 posted on 11/21/2013 8:45:06 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So

Given now the strategy is to rubber stamp all appointees and judges the next three years,

I think the Republicans need to remember with a House and Senate under their control, they ought to do the following:

1. Put the nuclear option back in the senate, for all judges and all appointments.

2. Write a law to fire all Obama appointees and judges except SCOTUS justices. They have oversight. Congress created and controls the lower courts. Open up all these appointees and judgeships for a Republican president to nominate and fill.

Screw the socialists. They are overtly destroying representative government into an socialist oligarchy.


272 posted on 11/21/2013 8:49:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: apillar
Huh? Did I miss something, Rush Limbaugh just said at the beginning of his show that the "Nuclear" threat wasn't worth discussing because it was just a distraction to take the media focus off Obamacare and that the democrats had no intention of following through, and even if they did it was a long convoluted process.

It appears that not only did they go "Nuclear" they changed the rules in about 15 minutes....


That's because Rush Limbaugh is a rodeo clown who's made a fortune telling conservatives what they want to hear, regardless of the truth. He's no more reliable than Dick Morris or any of those other well-paid "conservative thinkers".

Rush is entertaining and all, but when you start taking him seriously you become the mark.
273 posted on 11/21/2013 9:04:59 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: rlmorel

No, it shouldn’t. The most prominent news item should be obama’s intent, his very DANGEROUS intent, to allow iran to go nuclear which will threaten the entire world, but hardly anyone is writing about it or paying attention to what he is doing in foreign policy while everyone is obsessed with zero care and now this senate gambit.
WE need to stop using the phrase “playing politics” because we are not. We should realize that politics is war by any other name and act accordingly.
We need wargamers led by real war consiglieres, not the sniveling, whining political leaders chosen for us by themselves.


274 posted on 11/21/2013 11:37:50 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Gaffer

Frankly, I don’t think the Progressive’s are concerned at all about ‘retribution’ for ANYTHING Obama’s done. Once Amnesty passes, they’ve got nothing left to worry about.


275 posted on 11/22/2013 2:03:40 AM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: sport

I feel the opposite is indicated. State elections are a lot harder to steal than national ones. I feel these moves are to place judges, which cannot be voted out, so that their America-destroying legacy will live on.... past the probable bloodbath in 2014.


276 posted on 11/22/2013 2:08:49 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Well, it’s hard to argue with facts as they have been for the last 5 years, and Obamacare seems to be the nail in the coffin. But they have many more nails in mind:

Illegal Alien Amnesty
Wealth Confiscation
Gun confiscation
Harsh penalties for speaking against Abortion
Harsh penalties for speaking against the government
Confiscation of lands and properties not deemed homesteads

These are just a few. But I still have hope that this country will wake up (at least the producers) and take it back. It is either a groundswell of electoral dissent, or it is rebellion.


277 posted on 11/22/2013 2:22:49 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Really?

Does your copy of the Constitution not contain Amendment XXII?

It would take a lot more than one vote to end that limit.


278 posted on 11/22/2013 3:48:34 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Lazamataz

On that, you are correct. Also don’t forget when some Republicans considered doing the same thing to get President Bush’s judicial nominations confirmed, John mc Cain, Lindsey Graham, etal, sabotaged the effort.


279 posted on 11/22/2013 4:16:54 AM PST by sport
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To: DallasBiff
Precedent has been set for a 2015 GOP Senate and beyond.

You jest or at least forgot your sarcasm tag. The majority will easy continue to elect pro-socialist for the foreseeable future. To think that the low information voters would even understand this move, is lunacy. Texas will move blue no later than 2020 and most likely much earlier. Once that occurs, the rest is really moot.
280 posted on 11/22/2013 5:52:40 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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