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Ted Cruz Reveals that the Republican Establishment Despise Their Own Base
AmericanThinker.com ^ | 9-26-2013 | Karin McQuillan

Posted on 09/26/2013 1:54:08 AM PDT by servo1969

The Revolutionary War was a rebellion against Britain, but it first required a battle between Tories and Patriots. Ted Cruz is fighting for the honor of leading the conservative movement. The main goal is to give the American people a voice, defeat the Democrat Party, and take over Congress and the White House, so we can shrink our federal government back to constitutional limits.

The battleground of the moment is ObamaCare. But the first adversary that must be defeated is the Republican establishment. Is it any wonder that the Republican leadership is working to make sure the defunding effort fails?

Ted Cruz is pinning his ambitions to the big reality the Tea Party represents: conservatives really are fed up with both parties in Washington, D.C. The Republican base allowed Obama to be re-elected when an estimated five million of us stayed home in the 2012 election. It may not have been wise, but it happened for a very good reason: they didn't see the Republican Party representing them.

The D.C. establishment, and this includes both parties, is doing very well, thank you. The suburbs around Washington are the wealthiest in the nation. They and their families were untouched by the Obama economic meltdown. A huge government, spending a quarter of our nation's wealth, with almost half the populace dependent on their largesse, is good for them. It is not good for us.

The Republican leadership want to defeat ObamaCare, but mostly they want to use it as a campaign talking point to return to power. They are not willing to fight with all their hearts and minds to protect the American people from this disaster. That might be risky. That might not play well in this week's polls.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: base; cruz; gop; gopcivilwar; teaparty
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1 posted on 09/26/2013 1:54:08 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

There are two Republican Parties. One is the entrench set who simply fall to the direction that their lobbyists request, pretend to be wannabe conservatives, and do chatty-talks with Sunday morning talk-show hosts. They generally believe that you don’t arrive in DC, and jump-frog over them....that have been there ten to twenty years.

So the second Republican Party is this group that asks stupid questions, expects accountability, has made budget control and taxation the number one task of their political figures, and can out-wit any of the entrenched guys in a debate.

The sad truth is that the entrenched guys have been around, and don’t care to have their authority second-guessed. The idea that half their voting base has suggested for them to move on....hasn’t clicked for them yet. The entrenched crowd is relying on 1980s style election strategy to stay around.


2 posted on 09/26/2013 2:05:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: servo1969

I wholly believe this, especially for my two Georgia Senators, Chambliss and Isakson.

Both of these two RINO traitors tried to spout off early on in 2007 how we had to do something about illegal immigration reform and they were gangbusters to sign onto the Bush/McCain Amnesty Program. They got bitch slapped back into reality by us real quick like. But this episode confirmed something for me. These guys don’t really give a crap about me, or Georgians, really. They care about their power and status and hanging with the ‘cool’ guys up in DC.
They changed their tunes that one time, but I’ve never thought they changed their hearts.

Both of these SOBs will vote for cloture in the upcoming Obamacare/CR bill which will allow that bill to proceed with just a plurality vote, after Harry Reid conveniently allows just ONE amendment - to strip out Obamacare defunding.

They’ll then send out their emails and letters “We tried - we voted for the bill...blah blah blah...” “We’re really conservatives...” Just like they’ve done with nearly every other parliamentary trick votes in the past.

I sent both an email that we here are wise to their tricks and that anything other than a NO vote on cloture is treason against us.

I know Chambliss is leaving, but I’ll sure as hell not vote for anyone he or the Georgia GOP endorses for his replacement, likewise for Isakson...he’s outta there. I’ll get him in the primary, or in the General Election if I have to. At least an outright declared enemy is better than one in the trenches with you.

As for possible replacements, I think I’m gonna go like someone in the Georgia forum said...stay away from any old white good ole boy...I’ll be looking for someone younger - a Turk with a burn in his/her belly to go up there and make some damned trouble in that Senate along with Cruz. So as it is now, I’m not endeared of any of the potential candidates thus far, especially the current crop of House minors who want to go up to the Senate Majors....


3 posted on 09/26/2013 2:10:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: servo1969

Sad but true


4 posted on 09/26/2013 2:12:10 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: servo1969
Yesterday, on Hannity's radio program, Rand Paul suggested that we should not try to unseat republicans in congress, but focus on democrats.

My comment is if the republican is doing the same thing as the democrat, but with a kinder, gentler manner, would it not be hypocritical to criticize the democrat while ignoring the republican.

5 posted on 09/26/2013 2:14:01 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: pepsionice
This is a watershed moment.

My Tea Party representative won in 2010 largely because his long serving rat opponent had given in to Pelosi's demand to vote for Obamacare. My rep has not gone wobbly, and I am sure he will continue to vote to defund Obamacare.

Despite this, I told him that I will probably sit out the 2014 federal side of the election if the GOP caves.

6 posted on 09/26/2013 2:16:44 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: servo1969

Wow. The idea that the gop despises it’s base is finally getting some traction.


7 posted on 09/26/2013 2:17:23 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: servo1969

This is 100%......Washington DC scum..either party...would sell out the souls of their children to be on the “correct” DC party list!


8 posted on 09/26/2013 2:21:06 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: servo1969

That isn’t exactly a news flash. It’s amazing to me how some Freepers back these people who despise them.


9 posted on 09/26/2013 2:21:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Oh, I can smell a Purge coming. The Viking Kitties will positively FEAST!


10 posted on 09/26/2013 2:25:30 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Moorings

“Yesterday, on Hannity’s radio program, Rand Paul suggested that we should not try to unseat republicans in congress, but focus on democrats.”

Just think where we would be today if the Republicans in the US Senate were all like Ted Cruz. Reid would be crapping his pants! The fact of the matter we need to focus on electing conservative “leaders,” like Cruz which necessarily means we need to “primary” most of the sitting GOP Senators along with the RATS. And we need to be willing to admit that this strategy will sometimes result in a RAT taking over the seat of a RINO, but that can be held to a minimum by running effective, well-vetted candidates.


11 posted on 09/26/2013 2:29:14 AM PDT by vette6387 (o)
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To: Jacquerie

“Despite this, I told him that I will probably sit out the 2014 federal side of the election if the GOP caves. “

Your attitude is part of why we are where we are today. And I thought that the only “white flag” factory operating to day was in France. My mistake!


12 posted on 09/26/2013 2:31:34 AM PDT by vette6387 (o)
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To: vette6387

A good point....but in the long haul I think its better to clean out the GOPe. We always win when we stay true to conservative issues.

Potomac fever is a dangerous disease and the ballot bix is the only cure!


13 posted on 09/26/2013 2:35:45 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: pepsionice

If the Revolution was happening now who would be with Wahington and the Patriots? Ted Cruz would be there, so would Rand Paul and Mike Lee and others—McCain would be wearing Tory Green wanting to comprmise with King George. He would be calling Washintom a Wacko Bird Revolutionary— and so would the New York times. Such as they didn’t win American Freedom.


14 posted on 09/26/2013 2:37:40 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: servo1969

Actually the Democrat Elite ALSO HATE their BASE, However, They realize they NEED these stupid people DEPENDENT on them in order to stay in power, so they CATER to their Dependency, they CATER to these people in order to KEEP them. OUR side SHUNS OUR NEEDS.


15 posted on 09/26/2013 2:37:42 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: servo1969

Spot on.


16 posted on 09/26/2013 2:38:24 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Gaffer
Ditto. I am so pissed at Isakson that I would consider actually voting for the Democrat in the general if he wins the GOP nomination again.

And Chambliss will show his true colors in this vote as well. Since he is stepping down, he has zero to gain politically by voting for cloture. So if he does vote that way, it will show that his allegiance resides with his fellow Senate Club Members and not with the state of Georgia which he is paid to represent.

17 posted on 09/26/2013 2:43:51 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: pepsionice

Good summary

Problem is too many claiming to be conservative think that the Sunday news shows and Fox News are conservative....real conservatives know better


18 posted on 09/26/2013 2:45:37 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Unemployment is so high...its getting harder for Obama to job people anymore)
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To: Moorings

As Cruz pointed out yesterday, Leftist Democrats who are open about their politics are more deserving of respect than sniveling and deceitful pols who hide their true perspective.


19 posted on 09/26/2013 2:47:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: vette6387
Our conservative candidates have to be strong and savvy enough to stand up to the liberal partisan media, the dems, and the republican establishment. Sadly, a good number of our candidates have not been up to the task. Hence, we lost some winnable elections.
20 posted on 09/26/2013 2:52:38 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: vette6387
Yeah, and I gave freepers a hard time for not voting for Romney last year.

BTW, if you think serious reform will emerge from the institutions and people in the five wealthiest counties in America, you are delusional. They profit too well and will oppose reform to the bitter end.

The framers gave us the means to do an end run around the elites, and we must use them.

I got with my state rep last week for an hour. We discussed initial efforts in Tallahassee to get an Article V state amendment convention movement going.

Tell me of your efforts to save our republic. If they are limited to voting, an occasional email or tweet to federal pols, and rants at FR, they are inadequate.

21 posted on 09/26/2013 2:53:56 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: 9YearLurker

I recall there was an effort by some that would force Reps and Senators to spend more time in their districts/states. Vote electronically.


22 posted on 09/26/2013 2:55:46 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: servo1969

At least it’s clear who our enemies are. Next election it’s payback time.


23 posted on 09/26/2013 2:59:13 AM PDT by McGruff (Mr. Cruz goes to Washington.)
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To: Jacquerie

So you have a representative doing what he promised and apparently doing the right thing, but you are refusing to support him?

Why?


24 posted on 09/26/2013 3:07:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: vette6387
...we need to be willing to admit that this strategy will sometimes result in a RAT taking over the seat of a RINO...

We also have to admit that a traitor in our midst will always result in our defeat, and it is absolutely necessary to destroy the traitor before we can prevail.

25 posted on 09/26/2013 3:12:27 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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He got common knowledge on record.


26 posted on 09/26/2013 3:14:04 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: servo1969
I'm not sure despise is the best word.

I think embarrassed by fits better.

27 posted on 09/26/2013 3:19:06 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: servo1969

28 posted on 09/26/2013 3:27:34 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Jacquerie

Great. Here we go again.


29 posted on 09/26/2013 3:28:02 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: driftdiver
I explained somewhat in #21.

We can vote for conservatives into infinity, but the structure of our republic has been corrupted to point that whom we vote for will have little effect.

Only the shell of our republic remains.

The elites pretend to follow the constitution (consider the sham, illegitimate passage and court review of Obamacare) and we pretend our vote matters.

30 posted on 09/26/2013 3:37:45 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: servo1969
It's the Tea Party vs. The Collaborators.

Unless anyone can think of a better term, let's call the RINOs what they are.

RINOs = Collaborators

31 posted on 09/26/2013 3:39:12 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Jacquerie

If you stay home and not vote, you basically forfeit the “right” to b*tch and complain about the outcome


32 posted on 09/26/2013 3:48:39 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: servo1969

Every one of the RINOs should lose their next primary. Clean out the dead wood because it is not only useless but harmful in this last-ditch fight to save the nation.


33 posted on 09/26/2013 3:52:30 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Ann Archy

You nailed it!


34 posted on 09/26/2013 3:54:24 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Moorings
I listened also and rand is solidly in the gop/e circle. Yes, he supported his friend Ted... those were his words... but he also said he did not believe that “shutting down the government” was the answer. He has bought the left wing talking point just like the gop elites have. He did vow not to vote for cloture but that is because Ted has branded anyone doing so as a traitor.

rand is not john mccain but he is also not one of us... Ted is. That saddens me but I am no longer going to give anyone a pass on these most important issues. He was sounding just like a DC Beltway, karl rove, republican snake oil salesman. Ted was on with Rush and he sounded like Nathan Hale, Patrick Henry and George Washington all rolled into one.

35 posted on 09/26/2013 3:58:44 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Jacquerie

So abandoning the effort will make things better?


36 posted on 09/26/2013 4:00:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012; driftdiver
I summarized my thoughts in two posts to this thread.

I will be happy to respond to questions regarding the points I made, not silly snark.

37 posted on 09/26/2013 4:09:16 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: Jacquerie

Snark?

If you’ve given up on the fight for freedom then thats all you’re worth.


38 posted on 09/26/2013 4:12:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: servo1969

He didn’t reveal anything that wasn’t already known.


39 posted on 09/26/2013 4:15:39 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: servo1969
There has been a difference between local Republicans and national republicans and we have been trying to point that out for years. The “establishment” republicans (McCain, Boehner,Christie, Graham, Jeb Bush, etc.) are just that “established” and want no part of true conservative values.

Support your local republicans as it all starts there. Luckily, we have a voice in Ted Cruz, Lee, Jan Brewer, West and we need to support and pump these guys up.

We have been too complacent and trusting these establishment republicans OVER AND OVER again to do the right thing and they have consistently showed their true colors.

40 posted on 09/26/2013 4:16:35 AM PDT by laffnatu
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To: laffnatu

Capitalization matters. A lot of these people calling themselves “Republicans” couldn’t even give you a decent defintion of “republic” without Google. I think to qualify as a “republican” you ought to at least be able to do that.


41 posted on 09/26/2013 4:25:16 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: servo1969

The feeling is mutual.


42 posted on 09/26/2013 4:26:13 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: rrrod

Heck, getting out of their districts is half the reason some of these guys run. (I think that is why there are so many closeted gay Republicans from Red States.)


43 posted on 09/26/2013 4:30:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

LOL good point!!!


44 posted on 09/26/2013 4:32:26 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Jacquerie

I see the “any R is a good R” crowd is warming up.


45 posted on 09/26/2013 4:41:50 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: vette6387

Fine we won’t sit out. We just won’t vote republican. Happy now?


46 posted on 09/26/2013 4:46:48 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: workerbee

I’ve heard that for 20 years now. And look at the rewards. Never again. I will vote for a candidate and stopped supporting a party some time ago. Anyone who has a problem with that....well...can jump off the bridge paid for by taxpayers and supported by that party.


47 posted on 09/26/2013 4:49:02 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: servo1969

According to polls, the military is the most respected group in America. The military is respected because it embodies leadership and courage.

Maybe the republican party can somehow glean a lesson from that, but I have doubts.


48 posted on 09/26/2013 4:50:32 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Gaffer

Look closely at the candidates and consider ones that show true outsider credentials ala Palin or Cruz or even Rand Paul.


49 posted on 09/26/2013 4:52:03 AM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: driftdiver

Since you couldn’t take the time to read #21, you leave me nothing to respond to.


50 posted on 09/26/2013 4:52:20 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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