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American gun use is out of control. Shouldn't the world intervene?
The Guardian (UK) ^ | Sept 21, 2013 | Henry Porter

Posted on 09/23/2013 6:42:07 PM PDT by Innovative

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.

But no nation sees itself as outsiders do. Half the country is sane and rational while the other half simply doesn't grasp the inconsistencies and historic lunacy of its position, which springs from the second amendment right to keep and bear arms, and is derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights. We dispensed with these rights long ago, but American gun owners cleave to them with the tenacity that previous generations fought to continue slavery.

There is absolutely nothing he (Obama) can do, which underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation. This has reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue. The world cannot stand idly by.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; foreignmeddling; gormless; guardian; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment; unitednations
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This is beyond belief -- the author advocates treating the US as some savage country, where international "intervention" is needed to save us from ourselves...

(Please try to keep your responses clean, don't post what you first want to say -- I had to apply significant self control because my initial reaction was definitely not printable...)

1 posted on 09/23/2013 6:42:07 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Come and take it.


2 posted on 09/23/2013 6:43:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Innovative

To hell with that nonsense! The world should straighten out its own messes.


3 posted on 09/23/2013 6:43:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Innovative

They included all deaths, like suicides, and criminals shot and killed, I think.


4 posted on 09/23/2013 6:44:12 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: cripplecreek

“Come and take it.”

That was my first printable thought too...


5 posted on 09/23/2013 6:44:24 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Molon Labe baby.


6 posted on 09/23/2013 6:44:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statemet of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Innovative

One of these days the UK will for some reason, somehow want to have guns around once again.

In America, we’ll be ready.

Just saying.


7 posted on 09/23/2013 6:44:24 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Innovative

Where does he sight his statistics from?


8 posted on 09/23/2013 6:44:33 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Innovative
Anyone who can write "We dispensed with these rights long ago" without immediately realizing his argument is full of shiite, crumpling it up and starting a new one one something he's qualified to talk about, is not to be taken seriously.

Rights? Who needs those?

9 posted on 09/23/2013 6:45:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Innovative

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


10 posted on 09/23/2013 6:45:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ltc8k6

“They included all deaths, like suicides, and criminals shot and killed, I think.”

What it doesn’t include is how many lives would have been saved, if the victims had guns too...


11 posted on 09/23/2013 6:45:22 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: cripplecreek

Who the crap would they send? The Brits? The French? The Swedes? None of theom could make a dent in Texas muchless the entire USA. Shove it ya daft pricks.


12 posted on 09/23/2013 6:45:26 PM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: Innovative

What fact-bereft hypocritical lunacy.


13 posted on 09/23/2013 6:45:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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Mr. porter. Your flappin’ gums are out of control. I’d like to intervene. Come on down. This ain’t some podunk country and people actually enjoy freedom here. I got a suggestion for ya. Write an article condemning all the loony muzzie asshats in GB and see if your editors let you print that. My guess is no. How’s that freedom of speech lookin’ no nancy boy?


14 posted on 09/23/2013 6:45:29 PM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes world you can help our gun violence. Please take and assimilate our young, black, uneducated, unchurched, fatherless males and our crime rate would resemble Iceland.


15 posted on 09/23/2013 6:46:34 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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Dear Henry,

Please do try it. I’d prefer if you were st the head of the UN forces. Make sure they buy you a snappy uniform that stands out to show your brilliant leadership skills.

L


16 posted on 09/23/2013 6:46:56 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Innovative

Bring it on “International Community”

You can have mine - bullets first! (and I bet my stockpile equals yours, emasculated England)


17 posted on 09/23/2013 6:47:09 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Innovative

It’s like this Henry old boy. We didn’t kick your @$$es in the Revolutionary War so we would have to listen to you passing gas to the tune, “Take Their Guns Away”. You worry about your island. We’ll worry about our continent. Don’t you have some Muzzie feet that you should be kissing?


18 posted on 09/23/2013 6:47:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: Innovative
It's based on emotion and liberal stupidity, not facts. Ignorance can be cured.

CDC Gun Research Backfires on Obama



19 posted on 09/23/2013 6:47:39 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Innovative

The sheeple of the Third World EU want company when they are enslaved.


20 posted on 09/23/2013 6:47:56 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Excessive numbers of coincidences are known as patterns.)
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