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Senator Cruz may have to wait eight months to stop being Canadian
reuters.com ^ | 8 20 13 | David Ljunggren

Posted on 08/20/2013 3:22:58 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

OTTAWA - U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, who says he recently discovered he is likely a Canadian, must win security clearance from Canada's spy agency, fill out a four-page form and then wait up to eight months to sever his ties to America's northern neighbor.

Cruz, a Texas Republican who has fueled speculation that he may run for president in 2016, was born in Canada, which automatically makes him a citizen. On Monday he offered to renounce that citizenship. ...

People giving up Canadian citizenship must prove they are or will become a citizen of another country, do not live in Canada and are not a security threat. They must also explain in writing why they do not want to be a Canadian anymore.

A nonrefundable C$100 ($96) fee is payable in advance.

"It's very, very uncommon ... . I've been practicing 26 years and I don't think I've ever seen anybody renounce it," said Guidy Mamann, an immigration lawyer with Toronto law firm Mamann, Sandaluk & Kingwell.

(Excerpt) Read more at preview.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Texas
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1 posted on 08/20/2013 3:22:58 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

When did Mr. Obama renounce his Indonesian citizenship?


2 posted on 08/20/2013 3:24:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I am betting the liberal senators are looking through the laws right now to see if this could be used to “un-seat” Ted Cruz from the senate....


3 posted on 08/20/2013 3:25:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

And the RINOs too.. No Doubt..


4 posted on 08/20/2013 3:25:27 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: a fool in paradise
"Obama renounce his Indonesian citizenship?"

(and) His British Citizenship?

5 posted on 08/20/2013 3:26:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BarnacleCenturion

He looked under his underwear.

He can take a snapshot and an attached Canadian XXL condom to prove his point that the condom way too damn small.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 3:26:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (US Military's anti-Christianity: Moral slavery is slavery nonetheless)
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To: GraceG

I kind of doubt there are any pubbie senators looking at unseating Obama from the white house for being dual citizen...


7 posted on 08/20/2013 3:27:18 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

maybe he can be undocumented like mark steyn


8 posted on 08/20/2013 3:27:41 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

There is really no need for him to renounce his Canadian citizenship. Canada decides for itself who it wishes to regard as a Canadian citizen. It is none of our business what they do. It is our business to pick a president and we should determine eligibility based upon our laws. In my opinion, Cruz is a natural born citizen because he was a U.S. citizen at birth. Whether Canada decides it wants to view him as a citizen is none of my business. Our choice of a president should be based upon our law and not the law of Canada.


9 posted on 08/20/2013 3:28:05 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Don’t quote me on this but I believe the law that makes you a Canadian citizen upon birth was not enacted until 1977.


10 posted on 08/20/2013 3:29:33 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I’m missing something. If he has American citizenship, why does he think its necessary to renounce his Canadian citizenship?


11 posted on 08/20/2013 3:29:39 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ..
The last Canadian to renounce his citizenship was Conrad Black, who did so because the Prime Minister told the Queen that it was illegal for a Canadian to accept an appointment to the House of Lords (it never was).

To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

12 posted on 08/20/2013 3:30:40 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Funny.

It took the same amount of time for the RCMP to process my security clearance to submit to the US Citizenship office back in canada, as a prerequisite for a green card.


13 posted on 08/20/2013 3:30:49 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: a fool in paradise

It’s Ok Ted, as you probably know we sell the Shiner right next to the Molson here in Texas. I’m in the fan club either way.


14 posted on 08/20/2013 3:31:41 PM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: heshtesh

1947, actually. Prior to this there were no Canadian citizens, we were all British Subjects. IIRC In 1977 the law was changed so that we are no longer British Subjects.


15 posted on 08/20/2013 3:33:39 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

All I know is President Chester A. Arthur never renounced his Canadian birth.


16 posted on 08/20/2013 3:34:09 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Squawk 8888

After Peter Jennings took the oath to become a US citizen, he bragged to friends that he ALSO retained his Canadian citizenship. I’m sure he took the oath simply to vote against GW Bush.


17 posted on 08/20/2013 3:34:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Squawk 8888

Thanks for the correction.:)


18 posted on 08/20/2013 3:34:36 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

A Reuters article.

This is all just setting the stage for the GOP primaries.

The DNC & MSM know how fickle conservatives are with their nominee.

if Cruz is leading the primary polling, it will be used to divide conservative support, allowing someone like Christie to walk away with the nomination.

They did it to us last year, but you can already see the divisions starting.


19 posted on 08/20/2013 3:35:29 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Maybe it should be “Chester Eh Arthur”.


20 posted on 08/20/2013 3:37:04 PM PDT by married21
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To: colorado tanker

Just for show. I think he should just leave it be. May come in handy if we can’t get our act together down here.


21 posted on 08/20/2013 3:37:31 PM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: colorado tanker

If he has American citizenship, why does he think its necessary to renounce his Canadian citizenship?

*************

Cruz in his own words from the linked article.

snip
“Nothing against Canada, but I’m an American by birth and as a U.S. senator, I believe I should
be only an American,” Cruz, a U.S. citizen who grew up in Houston, said in a statement.
end snip


22 posted on 08/20/2013 3:38:18 PM PDT by deport
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To: Erik Latranyi
Hello,

So my question is: Can we avoid the traps of the past? It is well past time to be fickle....time is running short.

MOgirl

23 posted on 08/20/2013 3:39:21 PM PDT by MOgirl (STAND)
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To: Sirius Lee

Did 0bama renounce HIS purported Canadian Birth?


24 posted on 08/20/2013 3:39:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: heshtesh

My friend, born there of American parents in 1948, has dual citizenship.


25 posted on 08/20/2013 3:40:02 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: married21
"Chester Eh Arthur"

LOL

(you hoser)

26 posted on 08/20/2013 3:40:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: colorado tanker
I’m missing something. If he has American citizenship, why does he think its necessary to renounce his Canadian citizenship?

I think it is a good idea not to have divided loyalties. What is the purpose of dual citizenship anyway? So that one has more "options"? Anyone who wants to be POTUS should be unambiguously, 100% American.

27 posted on 08/20/2013 3:41:03 PM PDT by PauldArco
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To: Squawk 8888
1947, actually. Prior to this there were no Canadian citizens, we were all British Subjects. IIRC In 1977 the law was changed so that we are no longer British Subjects.

Another Presidential aspirant who is a natural-born British subject? What are the odds?

28 posted on 08/20/2013 3:41:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sirius Lee

You can’t renounce birth. Birth is a fact, something that happens.


29 posted on 08/20/2013 3:41:47 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Sirius Lee

Arthur was born in Vermont.

However, his father was a Canadian (or Irish?) citizen when Arthur was born. He has not yet become a US citizen.


30 posted on 08/20/2013 3:46:00 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: PauldArco

I think it is a good idea not to have divided loyalties.

I wish he would have done this awhile back instead of strictly for political purposes. I think this is a bad sign that he will do anything to become President. He is too young anyway. We have had enough babies (three of them in a row) as President....Enough. Let’s get somebody around 65-69 age range. Certainly there has to be some conservatives in that age range somewhere. Plus Cruz is only ONE year younger than I am.....although he does look like he is in his late 50’s when in fact he is 43 or soon to be.


31 posted on 08/20/2013 4:06:54 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Senator Cruz may have to wait eight months to stop being Canadian

Election's 39 months away. No problem. Smart move.

32 posted on 08/20/2013 4:08:21 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Keynesians take the stand that the best way to sober up is more booze.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Why sever ties?


33 posted on 08/20/2013 4:20:29 PM PDT by madison10
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To: MOgirl
So my question is: Can we avoid the traps of the past? It is well past time to be fickle....time is running short.

I don't think so.

We ended up with McCain and Romney because conservatives could not coalesce around a single candidate.

I see the same now happening with Cruz, Rubio and Paul....where conservatives nitpick the candidate to death.

I truly feel conservatives are their own worst enemies.....and everyone else knows how to exploit it.

34 posted on 08/20/2013 4:38:54 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Squawk 8888

1947, actually. Prior to this there were no Canadian citizens, we were all British Subjects
________________________________________

In New Zealand it was about a year later...

I was born British in Dec 1948

One month later in Jan 1949 my mother had my birth registered and lo and behold

I was given a New Zealand birth certificate..

Years later though when I applied for a New Zealand passport I was told I could also get a British passport because of my birth date...prior to Jan 1948...

I didnt understand the significance at the time and thought it very odd and opted for the NZ passport...

Did I have dual citizenship ??

I dont know..


35 posted on 08/20/2013 4:41:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: RegulatorCountry
Cruz. Canadian, Cuban, and Commonwealth Subject? Correct?

We do live in interesting times.

Obama questionable citizenship.

McCain, born outside the US.

Romney, father was born in Mexico.

Rubio, born in the US, parents from Cuba.

Jindal, born in the US, parents from India.

36 posted on 08/20/2013 4:43:55 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

You’d think we were just plumb out of US citizens born in the United States to citizen parents, wouldn’t you? Again, what are the odds?


37 posted on 08/20/2013 4:47:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Tau Food

“In my opinion, Cruz is a natural born citizen”

That and a 4.50 will get you a cup at starbucks.


38 posted on 08/20/2013 4:50:04 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: heshtesh

You’re incorrect on this. Canada has had birthright citizenship since about 1945. What has changed is the status vs the United Kingdom, and the status of those grandfathered before 1945 who wished to keep their British citizenship.


39 posted on 08/20/2013 4:51:46 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Theoria

McCain was born in the United States.


40 posted on 08/20/2013 4:52:31 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Tennessee Nana

You were a subject of the Queen, and the state at the time (New Zealand), had no desire to strip that status from their citizens.

The Commonwealth tends to treat Britain differently from the rest of the world (for obvious reasons).


41 posted on 08/20/2013 4:54:05 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge

If he was, Jimmy Carter just up and unilaterally decided to give part of the United States away.


42 posted on 08/20/2013 4:55:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: napscoordinator

“He is too young anyway”

“He would be the first non-boomer”


43 posted on 08/20/2013 4:55:43 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: RegulatorCountry

That’s what the man did.


44 posted on 08/20/2013 4:56:25 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge

No I was a subject of the king


45 posted on 08/20/2013 4:56:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: JCBreckenridge

That should frighten you, if you really believe a President has that power at his sole discretion.


46 posted on 08/20/2013 4:57:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BarnacleCenturion

BS

If the capital of Canada were in Alberta it would take about 5 days; the libs run everything there.


47 posted on 08/20/2013 4:59:02 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: JCBreckenridge

McCain was born on a area designated through Executive fiat back in the day. Which means nothing.


48 posted on 08/20/2013 5:01:00 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: JCBreckenridge
Well, I have expressed my opinion in more detail here.

Believing as I do that this is a Constitutional issue reserved for decision by the electors and knowing that these days electors are selected by voters, my opinion and your opinion are important because you and I pick the electors who make these decisions.

So, please return my 4.50. ;-)

49 posted on 08/20/2013 5:04:28 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Theoria

... and disposed of by the same manner. It was leased.


50 posted on 08/20/2013 5:05:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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