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Norway ponders conservatism and the future of the welfare state
Hotair ^ | 08/11/2013 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 08/11/2013 8:13:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"I would not call Hitler Jugend victims."

I understand your position, but the nazi adults took kids - starting at age 10 - and psychologically and physically manipulated them until they created the fanatics the allies eventually had to face. They were nazi creations. That's why I consider them victims. Having said that, had I been around in WWII, I would have unhesitatingly shot any hitler youth that did not immediately drop his weapons and surrender.

21 posted on 08/11/2013 3:07:34 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Impy

True, the PP does seem to be a bit closer to our kind of conservative I guess.


22 posted on 08/11/2013 3:24:13 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: riri

Yes, would you rather have a percapita income of $60,000. and a twelve dollar cup of coffee or the 1956 per capita average as it was in America and a five cent cup of coffee? I would guess that the latter was a better deal. I was born in 1944 in South Carolina, my father was a carpenter and we ate meat three times a day most of the time. At least no one who has ever seen me has suspected that I was ever undernourished. I think 1956 was the year that I saw the man I considered my Godfather become very angry because he was charged a whole dime for a cup of coffee instead of the nickel he was used to paying. He thought it was outrageous to be charged enough for a cup of coffee to pay for half a gallon of gasoline. In those days my father could afford to buy ice cream cones for himself, my mother and his four sons. The total cost was no more than sixty cents for all six and that was for double dip cones. Who can afford six cones of ice cream now? It would cost what my father spent in a month at the grocery store in 1956.


23 posted on 08/11/2013 3:32:59 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Flag_This

I tend to think of victimization as being from the individual’s point of view. Most of the boys did not think of themselves as victims, and many were enthusiastic and proud to be supporting their homeland.

For many it was an early recognition of their maturity, even adulthood, and they were destined to be the future leaders of their country.


24 posted on 08/11/2013 3:36:04 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s not much to be proud of in how long it took to pull their head out of the sand, but at least they’re doing it now.


25 posted on 08/11/2013 3:38:24 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: RipSawyer
I have no doubt you are correct. 60k makes the average Norwegian sound rich to the average American who has never spent time in Scandinavia and has ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how expensive "free" makes everything.

Thought, I am the first to say we are rapidly catching up and we have none of the up side. At least they feel like they get something for all that taxation--we just get to bend over.

26 posted on 08/11/2013 4:09:06 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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