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Norway ponders conservatism and the future of the welfare state
Hotair ^ | 08/11/2013 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 08/11/2013 8:13:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/11/2013 8:13:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“The oil won’t last forever”

But the lutefisk will.

Lutefisk, the currency of the future!


2 posted on 08/11/2013 8:52:32 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

A nearly homogeneous society with a population less than that of Houston, Texas. Interracial strife is all but non-existent. Taxes are terrible but they get something for them. As high as taxes are though, they realize that they can and must go even higher without oil or the jobs of oil.

They are almost an insanely cautious society.


3 posted on 08/11/2013 9:09:25 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: SeekAndFind

Anders Behring Breivik can be called many things, but a madman is not one of them. He had a very well thought out plan to cripple the next generation of socialist leaders, to save his country, and the plan worked, though murderous.

Norway has a very small population, of only 4.7 million. And it was, and remains, an effort of the socialists to dilute the Norwegian population with unrestricted immigration, which would eventually wipe out Norway as a state, a culture, a history, and a people.

Norway would become just a socialist district in the EU, no longer a nation. A generic place. A gray place. And all that Norway had been before would be lost.

To achieve this, the socialist and communist youth movements merged just five years after the German Hitler Youth were created, and created a socialist and communist version of the Jugend. Their purposes were the same, to create an ideologically pure next generation of leaders, to guarantee the future of Nazi Germany or socialist/communist Norway.

And this effort is not unique to Norway. The Socialist International is an organization of left wing political parties from around the world, and they are devoted to doing to their nations what the Norwegian socialists intended to do to theirs.

So imagine, for a moment, if Anders Behring Breivik had lived in 1942 Germany, and decided to slaughter an equal number of German Hitler Youths, in defense of occupied Norway. Would he have still been seen as a villain?

I suppose the difference is that the Nazis just wanted to rule the nation of Norway. The socialists just wanted to destroy it entirely.


4 posted on 08/11/2013 9:18:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The first thing Norway needs to do is expel the Muslims.


5 posted on 08/11/2013 9:27:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Norway is SUCH a joke —the Swedes make fun of their work ethic. (imagine that!) They use Norway as a comparison to scare fellow Swedes from going back to the far, far left.


6 posted on 08/11/2013 9:34:51 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: SeekAndFind
**Norway’s GDP per capita is now over $60,000 a year.**

And a cup of coffee is $12--extrapolate that to everything. There was a Norwegian freeper on here, once, who told us he ate meat twice a year because it was so prohibitively expensive.

7 posted on 08/11/2013 9:36:40 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: BenLurkin

Norway?


8 posted on 08/11/2013 9:52:35 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"So imagine, for a moment, if Anders Behring Breivik had lived in 1942 Germany, and decided to slaughter an equal number of German Hitler Youths, in defense of occupied Norway. Would he have still been seen as a villain?"

Well, yeah, because the Hitler Youth were absolutely victims of nazism. Now, if he'd taken out an SS command post (or the leadership most responsible for perverting the kids) that would be one thing, but to shoot 70 unarmed kids is something else entirely.

I did not know that it was a labor party camp - I had heard that he did not like the islamic immigration into his country and I was baffled by how he thought shooting up a summer camp would somehow stop the situation. I just assumed insane people do insane things and little would be learned by reading anything he wrote; so, thank you for your explanation.

9 posted on 08/11/2013 9:56:21 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, if there’s danger of the socialists losing, there will probably be another “right-wing” mass murder. Either in Norway or one of the neighbour countries.


10 posted on 08/11/2013 10:07:34 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: riri

Nah. Beef (hi-class stuff) is actually a bit less expensive than real quality fish. Of course, all foods are much more expensive than in the US - I think if you made a bulk comparison you’d end up with US prices at around 30% of Norwegian.

Of course, the way Obama is going, he may have the US more comparable to Europe (or Egypt) real soon.


11 posted on 08/11/2013 10:17:02 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Flag_This

This is news to me, too.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 10:47:00 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Flag_This

I would not call Hitler Jugend victims. I actually met a former Jugend in Germany, and he regarded it as the high point of his life. He still had his old party card, and is proud of a picture of him as a boy getting one of the numerous awards the HJ handed out.

Many of them were the last defenders of Berlin against the Russians, killing many before they in turn were slaughtered. The Russian attitude to them was the same as for the SS: to be killed on sight.

The purpose of such training camps is not activities, but memorization and recitation of political doctrine. Those who are best at this are promoted. Freedom of thought, questioning of doctrine, or any form of argument are strongly discouraged. All activities are group activities, be it exercising, eating, sleeping. Individualism is the enemy.

Doctrine always defeats common sense, experience, or caring for others. Lying to achieve doctrinal goals is encouraged. A sense of ruthlessness pervades.


13 posted on 08/11/2013 11:02:57 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: BenLurkin

Hell, not only Norway should do that — the entire West should.

The longer it waits, the more severe the bloodletting will be in the future. Countries like China and Japan already understand it to the fullest extent.

By now the West should realize that there is NO WAY EVER that it and Islam can co-exist — plenty of daily examples indicate that Islam is in the West only to conquer and convert it. There is not even an attempt by Islam to integrate into Western society.


14 posted on 08/11/2013 11:36:48 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Lutefisk. It's what's for dinner


15 posted on 08/11/2013 11:49:34 AM PDT by Reeses
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16 posted on 08/11/2013 12:25:46 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Hardraade

The Swedes say food is so expensive in Norway that they sell half cucumbers. And food in Sweden isn’t cheap by any stretch.


17 posted on 08/11/2013 12:38:06 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri

Yes, many Norwegians - those in convenient locations - make largescale treks to Sweden to buy food. Crazy stuff.


18 posted on 08/11/2013 12:58:05 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Hardraade
My niece lives in Oslo. I have never been but I have spent ample time in Sweden.

I spent much of the summer in Stockholm this year. Weird thing going on there --babies. Lots of 'em. (and not the muslims, the ethnic Swedes). They are having four kids a piece. Kids were every where. It was a marked increase from when I left just three years ago.

I am really curious how this will change the priorities of the average Swedish family. It's one thing to pay for everyone else when it's just you. Quite another when you have six mouths to feed and clothe.

19 posted on 08/11/2013 1:13:23 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: SeekAndFind; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; GeronL; AuH2ORepublican

It looks like the left is on the way out, the right has been leading in the polls for some time.

I’d rather see the Progress party lead the coalition but what’re gonna do.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 3:00:08 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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