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Illinois: Governor Quinn Issues an Amendatory Veto on Concealed Carry Legislation
NRA-ILA ^ | July 3, 2013 | NA

Posted on 07/07/2013 3:58:06 PM PDT by neverdem

Yesterday, with the federal court deadline for enactment of concealed carry legislation fast approaching, Governor Pat Quinn (D) issued an amendatory veto on House Bill 183. This legislation was introduced and passed by the state legislature last month in an attempt to comply with a ruling from the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit on December 11, 2012, that invalidated Illinois’ total ban on carrying firearms for self-defense. Governor Quinn’s irresponsible amendatory veto, if allowed to stand, would impose some of the strictest concealed carry laws in the nation and make a mockery of the serious issue of self-defense in Illinois. The Illinois Legislature is set to return for a special session on Monday, July 8 and will consider overriding Governor Quinn’s Amendatory Veto.

As it stands now, Governor Quinn’s Amendatory Veto makes the following changes to HB 183:

An override has been filed by House Bill 183’s sponsor, Representative Brandon Phelps (D-118). With an overwhelming majority voting to pass House Bill 183 at the beginning of June, the override that would reject Governor Quinn’s Amendatory Veto is expected to pass.

Your NRA-ILA will continue to update you as more information becomes available.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; bitchslap; chicago; concealedcarry; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; hb183; illinois; nazistate; patquinn; pistolwhipped; quinn; secondamendment; tyranny

1 posted on 07/07/2013 3:58:06 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The Governor acting as a legislator, crafting a bill after it has passed through the house?


2 posted on 07/07/2013 4:02:10 PM PDT by lurk
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To: neverdem

Chicago Murders Soar: 67 Shot, 11 Killed over July 4 Weekend—So Far

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/07/Chicago-Murders-Soar-67-Shot-11-Killed-over-July-4-Weekend-So-Far?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


3 posted on 07/07/2013 4:02:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lurk

it’s obstruction with added benefit if prividing for future harassment of law abiding citizens.


4 posted on 07/07/2013 4:05:38 PM PDT by RC one
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To: lurk

I’m not from Illinois, but I haven’t heard of an amendatory veto before this.


5 posted on 07/07/2013 4:05:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link.


6 posted on 07/07/2013 4:06:59 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

—they have -(or had it) in Wisconsin, too—the gub can almost completely re-write a bill in the process to make do almost the opposite of the intent—Doyle of Wisconsin did that several times-—


7 posted on 07/07/2013 4:14:23 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: neverdem

He’s a Demonrat traitor, redundantly speaking.


8 posted on 07/07/2013 4:14:54 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: neverdem

Inverts the “no carry” posting, meaning that carry will only be permissible in places that post it is OK to carry.

And these businesses will be promptly audited by the IRS.


9 posted on 07/07/2013 4:15:41 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I'm so conservative I won't even wear progressive bifocals.)
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To: neverdem

This debacle has gotten so far out of hand, that the DEMOCRATS are leading the veto override charge..


10 posted on 07/07/2013 4:39:49 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: neverdem

The Rulers of the Dictatorship of Illinois simply will NOT allow the will of the people to find expression.


11 posted on 07/07/2013 4:41:23 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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Please Help keep FR Independent!!

12 posted on 07/07/2013 4:49:05 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: neverdem

Quinn is an effing dolt.


13 posted on 07/07/2013 4:52:45 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.
Quinn’s irresponsible amendatory veto, if allowed to stand, would impose some of the strictest concealed carry laws in the nation and make a mockery of the serious issue of self-defense in Illinois.
The fascist bastard also wants 17 year olds to vote in primaries.


14 posted on 07/07/2013 5:07:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: neverdem

with democrats voting to override, quinn must be in trouble


15 posted on 07/07/2013 5:11:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: neverdem

Quinn is an embarrassment. His IQ falls somewhere south of the mean temperature in Chicago in January. He is quite simply one of the dumbest people ever to be elected to a governorship...ANYWHERE! His everpresent deer-in-the- headlights expression is merely his brain trying to fathom the intracacies of breathing.


16 posted on 07/07/2013 5:34:21 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: neverdem

Quinn’s on his way out. This costs him nothing and it’s actually his true position, he’d rather dump the whole thing and keep us slaves.

Keep in mind that the focus of Democratic gun-control is black urban males. They have something in common with the Patriots of the Revolution - no daddies.


17 posted on 07/07/2013 5:42:02 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DMZFrank; endthematrix; Chgogal; NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Lawgvr1955; Petruchio; stylin19a; ...

Illinois Pinglist:

Governor Quinn’s Amendatory Veto makes the following changes to HB 183:
•Limits individuals to carrying a single handgun with a single magazine and no more than ten rounds of ammunition.
•Changes the definition of “concealed” to specify a handgun must be completely concealed as opposed to concealed or mostly concealed.
•Bans carry in any place that serves alcohol – except private clubs and residences – and therefore nullifying the “restaurant carry” provisions in the bill.
•Inverts the “no carry” posting, meaning that carry will only be permissible in places that post it is OK to carry a concealed firearm.
•Allows employers to ban firearms on their property and negate the safe harbor provisions.
•Removes the ability of individuals to get out of their vehicle and store their handguns safely in the trunk of their vehicle.


18 posted on 07/07/2013 6:11:21 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 07/07/2013 7:39:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 1010RD; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; PhilCollins

I’m not a fan of “Amendatory Vetoes”.

Line item veto yes, but not this violation of separation of powers.


20 posted on 07/08/2013 1:25:50 AM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: Impy; 1010RD; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

I hope some legislators will remind Gov. Quinn that, even if it’s illegal to carry a gun into a bar, the gang members will ignore that part of the law.


21 posted on 07/08/2013 3:57:25 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Impy; 1010RD; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; PhilCollins

“Amendatory vetoes” are horrifying. How the heck is the legislature deemed to have approved a law that looks nothing like the bill that passed each house?

From what I recall, the federal courts gave the IL legislature a certain amount of time to approve concealed-carry or the courts would strike down IL gun laws and permit unrestricted concealed-carry. Wouldn’t Quinn’s mangling of the law in defiance of the court order make it likely that the courts will strike down the law and allow unrestricted concealed carry?


22 posted on 07/08/2013 5:21:52 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: neverdem

Quinn is an absolute joke. I honestly thought he was too busy trying to strongarm queer marriage into state law to be bothered with other things.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 5:28:25 AM PDT by Marathoner (Sarah Palin is our Esther, for such a time as this)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I agree with you. If Gov. Quinn changes the law, he disobeys a federal judge’s ruling, and he should be charged with contempt of court.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 6:24:52 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; PhilCollins

Yep, this morphing of the executive into the legislative and judicial (via admin. law courts) is prima facie unconstitutional.

It needs to be undone asap.


25 posted on 07/08/2013 7:44:23 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jack Hammer; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; PhilCollins; 1010RD
>> The Rulers of the Dictatorship of Illinois simply will NOT allow the will of the people to find expression. <<<

But... but.... the anti-17th amendment crowd have explained to us over and over again on FR that state governments no longer have any power and are totally subservient to the federal government.

Therefore, NO WAY could Pat Quinn, Rahm Emanuel, or Mike Madigan interfere with a federal law like the 2nd amendment. They're COMPLETELY powerless until we repeal the 17th and "restore our Republic"! (plus, as the anti-17th amendment crowd has also "explained", Democrats would NEVER thumb their nose at the federal government and ALWAYS think whatever the federal government decides is the BEST choice)

< /sarcasm>

26 posted on 07/08/2013 8:58:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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