Skip to comments.Professor From Columbia Comes Forward Saying Obama Never Attended the University
Posted on 06/09/2013 9:01:51 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
My life has crossed paths with President Obama on multiple occasions. According to Obama, we were Columbia University classmates, both Pre Law and Political Science majors in the Class of 83. I also ran against Obama in 2008 on the Libertarian Party Presidential ticket. What are the odds?
But something about the Obama at Columbia story has always bothered me. Earlier in the week right here at The Blaze I wrote about having just returned from New York, where I attended my 30th Columbia University reunion. I celebrated with my esteemed classmates. Everyone except Barack Obama. As usual- he wasnt there. Not a trace. Not a video greeting. Not a letter. I could not find any classmates who knew him.
I called Obama the Ghost of Columbia University. I pointed out (as Ive said in the media for many years now) that Obama may have been registered at Columbia, may have graduated from Columbia, but he was rarely (if ever) seen for the two years in-between. Its a strange, mysterious and frightening story.
Is he the real-life Manchurian Candidate? What explains Obama having just enough skeletal proof that he was there (one photo, one roommate, one professor, one friend) but never seen in a class, never on anyones radar screen, almost invisible. A total 2-year blackout. Its like a story straight out of a novel about the CIA or KGB. He graduated Columbia, but its almost as if he never went there.
To make matters more mysterious, Obamas college records are sealed. Hes had plenty of opportunities to authorize the release, to clear the air. He has never chosen to do so. But why? What has he got to hide? Funny enough Obama has never had a problem ripping open the sealed records of his political opponents. Every step of his career Obama has beaten his opponents by having sealed documents just happen to be publicly exposed by anonymous sources. But not Obama. His records are always unavailable (and never leaked). Obama always seems to have powerful forces on his side.
Did he attend Columbia as a foreign student? That was the educated guess I made in my appearance on Hannity on Fox News a year ago. The only photo of Obama from his Columbia days was in his off-campus apartment with a roommate described by USA Today as a Pakistani national, pot smoker, and cocaine abuser. If youre a foreign student, you live in housing off-campus with other foreign students.
That would also explain how he transferred to Columbia. Transferring into an Ivy League school is all but impossible. I did a little digging and found out only 3 transfer students in all of America were accepted into Columbia in the past academic year. Three students out of 315 million Americans. Yet those who knew Obama at Occidental called him a pot smoker and partier who rarely attended class. Youre telling me that a poor student, with that record, at an average college, was accepted for transfer into prestigious Columbia University? Only if he was an exotic Indonesian foreign student transferring into a college that desperately wanted to claim an ethnically and globally diverse student body.
Still that might explain how Obama got into Columbia. But where was he for those two years? My gut instincts say something is wrong with the Obama at Columbia story. Very wrong. Rancid.
But until now, I was the only one publicly voicing my suspicions. That just changed in a big way. Meet Professor Henry Graff, perhaps the most legendary and honored professor ever at Columbia University. He was THE American History and Diplomatic History professor at Columbia for 46 years. And he is more emphatic than yours truly that there are no Obama footprints at Columbia.
I was put on Professor Graffs trail by another Columbia classmate, skeptical about Obamas story. He told me that Professor Graff had been the speaker for the Class of 53 last weekend at Columbia. My friend was watching Graff answer questions from the crowd when he was asked about Obama at Columbia. Graff said, I have my doubts he ever went here.
I did some digging and located Graffs home phone number. I called him yesterday. Now retired, he was delighted to hear from me. He agreed to go on the record about Obama. Unlike Obama, Professor Graff clearly remembered me. He was thrilled to hear from his former student. I was in several of Graffs classes and he remembered me like it was yesterday. He sounded great- like he hasnt lost any of his trademark sharpness in 30 years since we last met.
I was honored to learn that this legendary historian has been following my political career for many years. But he had no such cheery things to say about the President. Graff said, I taught at Columbia for 46 years. I taught every significant American politician that ever studied at Columbia. I know them all. Im proud of them all. Between American History and Diplomatic History, one way or another, they all had to come through my classes. Not Obama. I never had a student with that name in any of my classes. I never met him, never saw him, never heard of him.
Even more importantly, Professor Graff knew the other history and political science professors. None of the other Columbia professors knew him either said Graff.
Graff concluded our interview by saying, Im very upset by the whole story. I am angry when I hear Obama called the first President of the United States from Columbia University. I dont consider him a Columbia student. I have no idea what he did on the Columbia campus. No one knows him.
There is something wrong with Obamas story- I know that. Many of my classmates at last weekends 30th reunion knew that. Now the most beloved Professor ever at Columbia joins us in publicly questioning the story. Obama is either the ghost of Columbia, or the perfect Manchurian candidate. But something smells rotten at Columbia.
“His college years were bought and paid for by Muzzies, IMO. Thats how he financed his education and had strings pulled to get into high prestige colleges. All this info has been either scrubbed or hidden from the public by the Universities he allegedly attended. Including his college transcripts, which would give us so much info, including whether he was a foreign student.”
None of this explains why two major professors in Obama’s supposed field of study/major never heard of him. You can scrub transcripts but you can’t scrub profs’ memories. Ditto his supposed fellow classmates. If Obama was there, why doesn’t anyone remember him?
I used to think he lived off campus & choomed his way through Columbia. That scenario doesn’t acct for his total anonymity, however. At least some notable prof, other than the leftist stooge, wd recall him. ‘Obama’ is not an everyday name. If he’d been there, someone wd have stepped forward to confirm it by now.
Is your FRmail broken? I report abuse on violations of board rules - almost always use of the F word. The comments I report on are almost always taken down. What is your problem?
good post -— thanks
On the bright side, we all can put Columbia on our resume, and say we too graduated. Just ask the president, he’ll tell you.
Obama spent the six years between 1979 and 1985 at Occidental College in Los Angeles and then in New York at Columbia University and in the workplace.
So, did he and his sponsors simply flip-flop references and influence between “Columbia University” and “Columbia College” ? Only one is the Ivy-League school “everybody” knows of and many respect. The other is worth less than city-college level paper-printed diploma.
IMHO it will take more than just our currently elected ones; they need to hear VERY LOUDLY from we the people, so loudly that they cannot ignore it. Mass street protests? Massive nation wide strikes? Truckers blocking access to this and that? Huge numbers of whistleblowers from every gov agency and department? Many in the MSM waking up and smelling the gangrene? I don't know. I do know that our political "system", if you will, is a broken, rotting corpse. And massive election fraud wrecks the results. Perhaps the corpse can be re-animated. Think of this quote from my profile page:
In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
I suspect his last year’s will be thoroughly embarrassing, to the point he might consider resigning.
I hope you followed that up with what is Mr. Congressman doing about those SEVEN SS#s.
Maybe he was working at Columbia records, the membership deal.
His college years were bought and paid for by Muzzies, IMO. Thats how he financed his education and had strings pulled to get into high prestige colleges. All this info has been either scrubbed or hidden from the public by the Universities he allegedly attended. Including his college transcripts, which would give us so much info, including whether he was a foreign student.
“None of this explains why two major professors in Obamas supposed field of study/major never heard of him. You can scrub transcripts but you cant scrub profs memories. Ditto his supposed fellow classmates. If Obama was there, why doesnt anyone remember him?”
I wasn’t trying to explain why he was incognito as a student while attending the University. I was adding to the discourse that I believe Obama’s college career was financed by Muzzies, especially at Harvard. As to his attendance at classes, that is the great unknown. How could he graduate without attending classes? A great mystery. But anyone with half a brain knows that Obama attended college as a foreign student, not as an American. That is why all of his transcripts are kept hidden by willing liberal college administrators. Hopefully the lid will be blown off about our Muzzie Prez after he is out of office. It won’t happen before then.
If a Muslim or Muslims pd for Obama to attend Columbia, wdn’t they have stipulated that he show up for class once or twice a mo?
BS, most of your complaints are about minor curse words, not the f-word.
I don't understand your question about our Freepmail. It works fine.
I've read the author's recollections before, but the prestigious Prof.Graff's statements, and also the other Columbia prof's similar non-recollections of any "0bama" at Columbia, is new. Anyone wanting on/off Zero's Background ping list, freepmail me.
Snopes are liberals and anything they claim is more or less useless.
Ha, as if hussein is going anywhere. The global situation is churning into another world war. He will declare an emergency and remain in office unless hillary gets forceful. Who knows, she might be the whistleblower.
Why are you so defeatist? YOu think the Dems/socialists/commies/mozelms are defeatist? No, they have unstoppable fighting spirit (of course for evil) and if we are defeatists, that suits them very well.
It’s time sto stop moaning about how hopeless everything is! Man up! Or woman up!!! Defeatism is the sure fire way for US to lose and THEM to win!
A really nice freeper made it for me!
Amen! I also might add that no child of God should ever feel defeated.
Somebody else told me that and I added a good link. Or you could just google the title. It’s not rocket surgery.
10-4. Roger that. Your answer is exactly with the problem with politicians. NONE, and I mean NONE of them care about the people once elected. It is all about power, how much they can get and how much money they can scam in as quick a time as possible just in case they are not reelected. They make their own benefit packages, their own retirement, their own insurance, their own medical plan, and approve their own pay raises and there is absolutely NOTHING we can do about it. Nothing.
"NEVER LEAKED"....Even President Bush had a DUI from around 1972 that was uncovered and "Leaked" to the MSM when they tried to derail his 2000 candidacy....
If the records existed then somebody removed them.......
I’m of the same era as hussein. We suddenly had a bunch of Iranians show up at our college. The profs were ordered to pass them no matter if they showed up or not. That did a job on the bell curve for the rest of us. I’m sure the registrar’s office can show their enrollment and transcript but by and large, they were NOT on campus. Some might show up for class here and there but the reality of it was just a paper scam. I’ve always thought this might be the same scam as the usurper.
Eh, this WAS about me.
And if you didn’t read the deleted post that I wish I could unsee, directed point blank at me, and which the moderators saw fit to extinguish quickly, NOT for me, but, as requested, for the integrity of the forum, then
Stay out of it.
“If a Muslim or Muslims paid for Obama to attend Columbia, wdnt they have stipulated that he show up for class once or twice a month?”
Just as long as he graduated with a degree, I doubt they would care. By the way, Columbia has a huge Muzzie population of students. It’s where many of them go, emphasis on many. I am retired from a major public University myself that had a large population of Muzzies, especially Palestinians (UIC). One of the grad students who worked part-time for the Dept. Head transferred to Columbia to finish grad school. Muzzies love to go to Columbia, hence the attraction, I’m sure, for Obama, as he went there as a foreign student, mark my words. To the Muzzies, Obama was being groomed for bigger things, and he indeed went on to be our Manchurian candidate for Prez.
That wd all make sense if he was there. The problem is, it’s beginning to look as if he wasn’t there at all. Even AA students have to take the core classes of their majors. Nobody from Obama’s core classes remembers him—not even the profs.
If it doesn’t matter to you if Obama is lying about where he went to college, why jump on the thread in the second spot to make that comment? You hardly had time to read the story, yet you want to set the tone? A tone that says ‘it doesn’t matter? That’s the liberal position. Did you know that?
But until now, I was the only one publicly voicing my suspicions. That just changed in a big way. Meet Professor Henry Graff, perhaps the most legendary and honored professor ever at Columbia University...
This is worth readying... and passing around...
Independent study credit.
B.P.:”Cant someone please hack into Columbias records dept.?”
That presupposes there are actually records at Columbia on Obama. I would guess any hack would return void...
Thanks for the Ping. Interesting article and thread.
Democrats were the majority party in the House from 1955 until 1995. Democrats controlled both Houses in the Nixon Administration.
The linked info is not from the people that Snopes rreferred to. That was my point.
Maybe some Brit reporters can take up this story and run with it... too bad we don't have any real newspapers in this country anymore.
Or they'll say that the elderly Professor Henry Graf is senile, so what he says carries no weight.
...if he was born in Hawaii and claimed to be foriegn born and collected money as a foriegn student he committed fraud, a felony and impeachable offense...
THAT is why colleges LOVE foreign students. They pay the bills.
In this era of online self-publishing, the art of proofreading tends to get lost in the shuffle. Its difficult to proofread your own writing, because the same biases and weaknesses that led to a given problem are also present while attempting to proofread. Always hand it off to someone else, and hopefully a literate someone else.
IMO, the value of this point is to be found in the fact that the Won "attended" Columbia as a foreign student and not as Obama.
The author states he might have, Only if he was an exotic Indonesian foreign student transferring into a college that desperately wanted to claim an ethnically and globally diverse student body.
That is no doubt true, in which case any inquiry should refer to Soetero instead of Obama.
Clearly, worse for the Obots that no one recalls Obama would be that many recall the foreign student stoner Soetero.
Maybe someone or ones on FR know from having better brains than me, when Zero started using the name 0bama instead of Soetoro. I wonder what he used at Occidental; I remember quotes from, I think “Dreams” saying something about that, but “Dreams” lies.
Remember the fellow student, I believe his name is John Drew, who wrote one or two lenghty articles about what he remembers? How 0bama was a hardcore commie, and hung out with Pakistani foreign students, and drove around in expensive cars and fine clothes and appeared to be some rich Pakistani’s boyfriend?
I think he mentioned what name Zero was using then.
Okay, I just did a search and couldn’t find anything on FR but here’s a search result, will look shortly and see if I come up with anything:
I never said that it didn't matter to me. I certainly never contemplated my position on the thread being number 2, I didn't know that numerical position was of much importance. Was I supposed to wait and see how everybody felt about the subject before I decided how to comment?
You hardly had time to read the story, yet you want to set the tone?
I read about this story two days ago on The Blaze when first pubished, and I had no idea my post "set the tone". I highly doubt I set any 'tone', most people at FR seem to be free thinkers.
A tone that says it doesnt matter? Thats the liberal position. Did you know that?
I gave an opinion, my opinion was and still is-- it will not matter-- as in it won't make much of a difference to anybody but us. As it it will not change anything. That is my opinion of this information. As far as "it doesn't matter being a "liberal position", no, I didn't know that but apparently you are an expert. I'm not a liberal but I'm sure it made you feel superior to type that, did you know that's a liberal trait? Feelings of smug superiority? Anyhow, g'day.
Nineteenth Census of the United States in 1970. Both chambers had a Democratic majority.
Right you are.
That’ll teach me to believe everything I read in the comments section of FR
Excerpts from, it looks clear that he was using hte name Barack 0bama while in Occidental, I’ll post another link or two so people can delve if they want to.
LP; How long did you have an association with Obama?
Dr. Drew; It is kind of complex, the actual time I spent with Obama was sort of brief and limited, but he was part of my social sphere in the sense I knew his roommate at the time, Chandoo, and Obama was a member of the Democratic Socialist Alliance at Occidental and my girlfriend, Caroline Boss was the co-president of that organization.
LP; Democratic Socialist Alliance?
Dr. Drew; Yes, that was the Marxist student association on campus, Caroline hung up a huge banner of Karl Marx where the students met at the Occidental College Quad. She and I were pretty intense Marxists we had been involved in about a two-year relationship and she was the one who introduced me to Barack Obama, she knew him better then I did. I wouldnt be saying he was a Marxist/Socialist revolutionary if it was just based with my face to face talk
with him, my comments are based on knowing Chandoo, having known Caroline and the Marxist Professors and that whole culture.
LP; How many actual face to face meetings did you have with Obama?
Dr. Drew; I never had face to face after Christmas and in Partolo Valley California which is near Stanford. I basically spent the day with him, Chandoo, and Caroline Boss, I was visiting Boss from Cornell where I was studying. I
graduated ahead of them but I had come back for the trip to be with Caroline. We hung out with Obama and Chandoo for that day and went out to lunch then we ended up arguing pretty late in the evening about Marxist and politics.
Whether or not there would be a revolution, a Communist style revolution in the United States. The key takeaway there is that I may have been one of the first people in the world to confront Barack Obamas kind of silly belief,
Marxist idea that there was going to be an inevitable Communist revolution coming to the United States. I feel in my heart that I had persuaded him that that wasnt in the cards and it wasnt going to happen and at the end of that time he believed me. I think a bunch of us, Marxist Communist style people were turned off by a Communist style revolution I think that Obama would have heard that from someone else eventually, but from his reaction, I think I was the first person that he could identify as an ally, and a friend and supporter who sincerely believes that there would never be a Communist style revolution. That debate I think helped Obama intellectually, but it helped seal the end of my romantic relationship with Marxist.
LP; Obama was a student there the whole time?
Dr. Drew; Yes he was a student at Occidental College and he was taking classes from Roger Boesche, who was a political theorist on campus. Roger was definitely a Socialist. Most of the students followed him as a Marxist revolutionary, but he was kind of precise with that and did not see himself as a Marxist. I would say that 100% of the students considered him to be a Marxist/Socialist.
Link to interview with John Drew:
Link to WND article:
Occidental activist: I thought Obama was ‘gay’
John Drew recalls meeting future prez, Pakistani roommate
Published: 08/15/2012 at 8:14 PM
Articles on American Thinker by Drew, links to each artcile on AT:
Articles By John Drew
How I Confronted Obama Biographer David Maraniss
Glorious Leader Gap
‘Trust Me, I’m from the Past’
Sanitizing Obama’s Radical Past
My White Girlfriend Inspired Obama’s Big, Dark Regina in Dreams from My Father
Even Republicans Rejected Info About Obama’s Past
Meeting Young Obama
Thanks for the links.
I do recall reading earlier J. Drew’s contemporaneous impressions. My take-away was not so much that O was a Marxist - much of his support is based on that and he cannot dodge it even if he wanted. Neither was that he seemed to others to be a homosexual...that is easily dodged with the argument, “he is after all married with two children” (as if that is credible proof to the contrary).
What could be important in all of it, is continuing to advance the notion his name was O and not that of a foreign student.
Re: his status at Columbia, it would be good to determine the date O first used the name as a matter of record. If we do not have the Occidental or Columbia records or driving license records, etc. it is, notwithstanding the comments of others who knew him earlier, yet an open point.
For example, when folks refer to Cassius Clay’s early boxing record they invariably refer to him as Mohammed Ali and not C. Clay.
Goober is southern for peanut
A fact you are unaware of..it signifies someone being foolish such as yourself foolio
Oh, here’s an excerpt from another article, seems like the same interview as above, apparently Drew does not remember what last name Zero used, but he was using the first name Barry:
LP: Do you know or did any one say he had a Visa when he was going to Occidental?
Dr. Drew; That I dont have any knowledge of I dont I called him Barry, but I dont remember if he was introduced as Barry Soetoro or Barry Obama. I just remember I called him Barry and I dont know anything about his citizen
And here’s something interesting later down the interview, of course it is not independently verified, yet interesting nonetheless, I’m wondering about the book “The Bridge” he mentions, I don’t remember it:
LP: Did Obama ever throw money around when he was with Chandoo?
Dr. Drew; He hung with Chandoo, but the impression I had with Obama was that they were both very wealthy. I thought that Barack Obama was a descendent from royalty from the way he carries himself. It did turn out that he did spend his summers on the grounds of the palace of the sultan of Jakarta in Indonesia. According to David Remnick,(The Bridge, Alfred A. Knopf, 2010, page 104), that is where Obama would spend his summers. So he actually did
grow up on the grounds of an Indonesian Palace. Through his step-father, Lolo Soertoro, he actually had ties to the royal family. (See addition below(2).)
“arrogant but not smart”
That summarizes this whole thing neatly. Not long from now, it could be the title of a book about the years of his oval office occupancy.
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