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Breaking: Pentagon Confirms May Court Martial Soldiers Who Share Christian Faith
Breitbart ^ | 5/1/13

Posted on 05/01/2013 9:27:40 AM PDT by Nachum

The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”.

The statement, released to Fox News, follows a Breitbart News report on Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith.

(From our earlier report: Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians--including chaplains--sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”)

Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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To: Future Snake Eater

no I think you should join for love of country and I have done that and no, get over yourself


181 posted on 05/01/2013 12:22:27 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ScottinVA

it depends how they proceed with this


182 posted on 05/01/2013 12:23:27 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: GeronL

got to have those homosexuals, and those guys who like to dress as women, oh and lets not forget if they feel aggrieved they can have consul , ARF

Then this crap, then telling Chaplains to not mention marriage in their service a few months ago.

It s ajoke and my boys will not join while it’s like this


183 posted on 05/01/2013 12:25:03 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: hummingbird

I think there’s only 10 or 12 Muslim chaplains in all the services. I don’t know if any are Imams.


184 posted on 05/01/2013 12:25:16 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: CityCenter; GeronL

just joined and already you say FR is hysteria


185 posted on 05/01/2013 12:25:58 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc; RetiredArmy

No and wrong. We need to get in there, get the right CIC and turn this around. 8 years of anti-Christian hate isn’t going to spell the doom of the US military.

Call Congress and get them to end funding for these prosecutions.


186 posted on 05/01/2013 12:26:44 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CityCenter

Hysteria? This is the kind of thing we expect from Obama. They already list veterans and Christians as more dangerous than muslims in DHS docs


187 posted on 05/01/2013 12:29:02 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Just because some anti-Christian nut who undoubtedly loves Obama said some stuff doesn’t mean anyone’s taking him remotely seriously.

He's advising Obama's people.

That kind of "advisor" is the kind that they love to listen to and implement their suggestions.

Ever hear of the anti-Christian Islamic terrorist Muslim supporting #1 advisor to Obama, Valerie Jarrett also a member of the Muslim Brotherhood?

They have already done much wrose than burning Bibles and the Constitution and are still given free reign to do what ever they want. What they have already implemented (which you say they won't yet 'cause you don't understand they have "burned" the Bibes and the Constitution already meteorically . Burning of a thousand bic flicks) is legion.

188 posted on 05/01/2013 12:31:24 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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To: 1010RD

already called pal.

Agree we need a good solid CIC and change all of this crap the military has been forced to do.
Now they want officers to be judged by their under, this CIC has no idea how to fight, to win and kill.
Instead it’s all about being nice and crap, I ever saw a paper on a navy ship saying discrimination policy.
WTH

I’d also change the freebies to anyone serving more than 6 years get them as we lose too many , train them and then they leave for their life time freebies.
HOmosexuals, women in combat and cross dressing should be overturned


189 posted on 05/01/2013 12:31:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
Too many join for the freebies and not for love of country, the while system is screwed up, training is now run in sneakers for the test.

LOL! Undoubtedly you were in the last tough Basic Training class.

Your laundry list of faults with the military shows you don't know what you're talking about.

What "anti-Christian crap"? What "Chaplain crap"? You could just as easily blame Reagan for the current policy that is being clarified here.

What about Manning? You mean the fact that he's on trial for treason and will never see the light of day again?

The people who don't want to fight? Yeah, they got kicked out. 1LT Watada was in my sister Battalion at Fort Lewis. Everyone hated that punk, and he got drummed out for being a little bitch (he was also a terrible officer even before that whole anti-war thing).

Cross-dressing? Violates AR 670-1 in its current state. Go for it, but you'd better not be caught doing it by your CO.

Homosexuals? You know what the net effect has been so far? Nothing. Why? Because they're still expected to be professional Soldiers. If they ever start getting preferential treatment (i.e. no judicial actions b/c they're being "discriminated against") then you'll be on to something.

Take my word for it. You read too much FR. You think you know what's going on, but you're getting first-order effects from dubious sources. However, FR can be a great source b/c people who are directly involved can come onto a thread and clarify what exactly is going on.

That used to mean something around here. Not so much anymore apparently.

190 posted on 05/01/2013 12:32:31 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Nachum

Absolutely chilling how fast Obama and his muszziebrotherhood pals are destroying the military.


191 posted on 05/01/2013 12:34:25 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: hummingbird; F15Eagle

I’ve had those feelings for about the past 3 years....


192 posted on 05/01/2013 12:34:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Syncro

Who is he advising? Where? When? Where and to whom did he make these comments? Was anyone there able and/or even willing to implement his comments as policy? What is an “Obama advisor”? Someone with tangential impact on a small piece of the FedGov?

Sorry, until I hear Sec. McHugh or GEN Odierno say something similar, this is just some nutbag shooting his mouth off.


193 posted on 05/01/2013 12:36:03 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: F15Eagle
"“Just something that came out of the blue.

I would describe it just like that."

I wasn't thinking about any thing in particular, then suddenly there it was.

Mr. hummingbird might schedule me for a MRI looking for stokes or something!

I think about it every day. "What up, buttercup?"

194 posted on 05/01/2013 12:36:31 PM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Kathy in Alaska; txradioguy; beachn4fun; StarCMC; Lady Jag; laurenmarlowe; tomkow6; GodBlessUSA; ...

Sicko ping.....


195 posted on 05/01/2013 12:36:46 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Syncro

“Weinstein was on a local talk show a couple years ago, he’s an absolute nut.”

And a year or two ago, it was Weinstein’s organization, complaining on behalf of muslims in the military, that got Franklin Graham disinvited to speak/pray at the National Day of Prayer at the Pentagon.

Weinstein is a man on a mission, which coincides with the aims of Zero the C-in-C so he has met no resistant from the Administration. Don’t be mislead by Weinstein’s alleged insanity; he’s focused on his goal the way Hitler was.


196 posted on 05/01/2013 12:37:00 PM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: Future Snake Eater

it was his officer doing the cross dressing in the PX and he should know as he was there in Afghanistan and I see no reason why doubt him.

Oh we had to do 30 miles in 8 hours carrying over 50 pound on cross country full kit.

OK what else to address you.
What Chaplains being told to not discuss marriage last year, a cross being removed at camp in Afghanistan, etc.

yea Manning, 100 pound soaking wet and he gets in the military, he was a wimp who should never have got through the physical and then he gives away secrets because of how he likes his sex.

Yea that Manning

Read too much FR, I suggest you know who you’re talking to first and lets get this right.
Just last night I talked to a pal in Kabul who said there has been homosexuals caught having sex but it’s been kept secret.
4 homosexuals marines in CA who said they were married to get married quarters but were homosexuals.

You might think you see nothing has changed but it has and you’re not the only one who has served so get over yourself national guard army


197 posted on 05/01/2013 12:39:23 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Nachum

And all it will take is the solemn word of an atheist, sworn upon the bi... er, his or her honor, that JOE OVER THERE, THE CHRISTIAN! assaulted him or her by PRAYING in PUBLIC or some other heinous crime.

Just wait, the purge will begin in earnest now.


198 posted on 05/01/2013 12:39:28 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Nachum
They can just say they are gay. Then the Entertainer in Chief himself will call them and congratulate them for their courage! /s

Seriously, I'm heartsick at what is happening to this country.

199 posted on 05/01/2013 12:42:27 PM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: Nachum

SCOTUS case the sooner the quicker - should be ACLJ and an probably half-dozen other Christian legal organizations on top of this. SCOTUS has been pretty good about protecting religious speech. That and political speech is clearly the heart of the unalienable liberties the Constitution is designed to protect.


200 posted on 05/01/2013 12:45:58 PM PDT by PapaNew
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