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Boston bombings suspect... Tsarnaev bled for hours from neck, leg wounds, "might not have lived..."
CBS News ^ | April 20, 2013 | CBS News

Posted on 04/20/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by Jeff Winston

More details have emerged about the Friday night capture that brought the intensive manhunt for the Boston bombing suspects to an end. Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, had been hiding in a boat in Watertown, Mass. Authorities responded to a call from a local man late Friday, after he observed that a tarp covering his boat had been disturbed and there was blood in the boat.

The FBI hostage rescue teams (HRT) planned and executed their operation to clear the boat by lobbing "flash-bangs" into it, which forced the young man to climb out, according to CBS News senior correspondent John Miller. Later the agents observed that Dzhokhar had been shot in the neck and in the leg.

Based on "the amount of blood" the homeowner saw in the boat, it is likely Dzhokhar was shot as long as 20 hours before being discovered, Miller said, referring to the battle earlier Thursday that led to the death of the other bombing suspect, Dzhokhar's 26-year-old brother, Tamerlan.

It was a "fierce gun battle with police after the carjacking and the car chase, at which point they were apparently exchanging gun fire, but also throwing homemade grenades and one large satchel bomb at police officers, so he had been bleeding for a long time," Miller said.

In a photo of authorities apprehending Dzhokhar released Friday, a SWAT team medic can be seen administering an "ambu" resuscitation bag to assist him in his breathing. Another photo shows Dzhokhar climbing out of the boat under his own power, following the commands of the HRT (Hostage Rescue Team), and Miller said it is clear from the images that, "this is a guy who was very weak at this point and probably -- had he not been discovered -- he might not have lived."

A Department of Justice official told CBS News that the arresting agents used an exemption clause to the Miranda law, allowing them to first question Tsarnaev on immediate security concerns before reading him his rights.

"In a case when there are exigent circumstances -- public safety is involved," explains Miller, the exception can be invoked to quickly obtain information; namely "are there other explosives? Is there another plot to blow something up? Are there other people?"

Still, the use of the public safety exception is rare. "We almost never see that," Miller said, adding that i was last invoked to question Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the so-called "underwear bomber" on the Christmas Day 2009 flight into Detroit.

In the coming weeks authorities will continue to question Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who Miller calls "an intelligence windfall." He added that the primary questions for Tsarnaev are those posed by President Obama in his addresses to Boston and to the nation throughout the week: "How did you do this? How did you plan this? And did you have help?"


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To: Old North State

Seems like there’s plenty of evidence. His confession isn’t needed so lack of Mirandizing couldn’t spring him.


51 posted on 04/20/2013 8:51:40 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Jeff Winston

I figured that if he was not caught, you could follow the concentration of flies in a few days to his body.


52 posted on 04/20/2013 8:51:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: Jeff Winston

Turn him over to Putin’s folks and let them interrogate him. I expect they can be a bit more ‘efficient’.


53 posted on 04/20/2013 8:51:46 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Moonman62
I would think that a good K9 officer could have found him within an hour. Why did it take so long?

That is a very good question. Really, if the homeowner hadn't searched his own backyard, the guy might not have been located. Apparently the LEOs didn't do even a cursory walk through search of the area. Yet they had nearly unlimited resources present, and certainly could have walked through Franklin street yards. A quick look at Google or Bing aerial data indicates that the area where terrorist #2 was found was close to the firefight, accessible by someone on foot, and a good hiding area.

Also, if he was really bleeding as much as has been reported, then it is surprising the LEO guys couldn't track him, particularly with canine teams.

Amid all the congratulations and back patting somebody should stand up and say that the terrorist was really captured because a civilian went out and searched his own yard. A great example of how security comes more from alert and prepared civilians than it ever does from the government.

54 posted on 04/20/2013 8:52:27 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Rebelbase

McVeigh didn’t want to appeal, he wanted it done.


55 posted on 04/20/2013 8:53:38 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rebelbase

McVeigh was charged, sentenced and executed under Federal law. No federal crime I am aware of in this case; probably be state prosecution. I don’t believe MA has the death penalty. He did, however, kill an MA cop, or was a full accessory to it.

He’ll never get out of prison.


57 posted on 04/20/2013 9:00:09 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: EBH

What orders? The fools didn’t even have money to get out of town. And they certainly didn’t show intelligence or have support in their escape attempt. The younger fool showed up at school. What orders?


58 posted on 04/20/2013 9:01:06 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Carl Vehse
Does anyone really believe this fairy tale CBS is passing on?

You might elaborate on that a bit. Tell us about this CBS fairy tale.

59 posted on 04/20/2013 9:01:17 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: TNCMAXQ; rusty schucklefurd
2 years he’ll receive a professorship and tenure at one of our universities.’ He can pal around with a future Democrat president

How about a Republican president?

After 911 Bush allowed into the U.S. more Muslims than the previous two decades...

60 posted on 04/20/2013 9:01:33 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TomGuy
I think daddy knows a lot more than he’s letting on.

And based on what the terrorist's aunt said it may have to do with their contact and relationship to the FBI. His threat may be to divulge information.

Look carefully at the layout of the final gunfight at the house where the terrorist was in a plastic boat. How could there have an exchange of gunfire there without the surrounding LEOs hitting and killing the terrorist unless they really wanted to take him alive? I doubt that in place, positioned SWAT teams would miss a target with no cover at less that 50 feet away.

Great effort was taken to capture the terrorist alive.

61 posted on 04/20/2013 9:02:16 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
the terrorist was really captured because a civilian went out and searched his own yard.

Per one report, the civilian went outside for a smoke break, noticed the shed door ajar, a portion of the tarp pulled up, and blood smears. He then got a ladder and actually lifted the tarp and saw bloodsmeared Jihadi Junior.


62 posted on 04/20/2013 9:03:06 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: EBH

#Watertown police chief: Older #boston bombing suspect was alive, cuffed on ground when younger brother ran over him, killing him. - CNN
https://twitter.com/NewsBreaker

Huh? Finding this hard to believe after viewing the pics.


63 posted on 04/20/2013 9:04:19 AM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Even if we do, most of the US is in total denial about the real enemy.

Unfortunately, this is true. But, we now have the opportunity to convert a few of those Low Info Types. Time to pour it on. The other side will be doing everything they can to make an innocent "angel" out this guy.

64 posted on 04/20/2013 9:04:51 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: freeandfreezing
How sophisticated were these foreigners when they set off Walmart pressure cooker bombs in broad daylight, with hundreds of cameras everywhere, and then walk a few blocks away back home?

Just guessing, but this does not seem too sophisticated.

In fact, the feds already were well aware of these AH's.

65 posted on 04/20/2013 9:06:44 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Oh you can bet they all want to go to his room and hold his hand and cry with him.


66 posted on 04/20/2013 9:08:20 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Send it to Obamas future *residential library


67 posted on 04/20/2013 9:10:40 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: TomGuy

Every American should keep a steady diet of pork forever.


68 posted on 04/20/2013 9:10:41 AM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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To: JimRed; Romulus; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; ...
In fairness, the boat owner should be compensated for damage to his boat and any property damage to his home and grounds.

I agree... that man is a hero. He tipped off the police and/or FBI as soon as he saw the perp lying in his boat bleeding.

Greta Van Sustern had a pretty long interview with the man's stepson last night (last name is Duffy). It took them a good 30-40 minutes to get through to any of the authorities with their very important "tip". He said it was extremely frustrating... they kept getting busy signals, etc.

If the perp wasn't so weak, I have no doubt he would have escaped from the boat long before anyone got to him.

69 posted on 04/20/2013 9:11:16 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: Moonman62; Jeff Winston
I would think that a good K9 officer could have found him within an hour. Why did it take so long?

Check this.

Why did they note immediately release the videos two days before they killed and wounded others? They could have been ID'd quickly.

In fact, they had great near perfect frontal images of these two foreigners, yet declined to even release them at their news conference, days after the event, where they only released questionable, marginal images of the suspects.

Wrap your head around that.

70 posted on 04/20/2013 9:13:44 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Eagles6
Curious about all the shooting last night. Sounded like scores of rounds and they didn’t hit him. Did they have a target?

IMHO, I believe persons in very high pay grades didn't want a living body and that's why they turned that boat into a sieve.

When he climbed out of that boat it must have been an "Ooops, brown spots in my shorts" momentfor some people.

71 posted on 04/20/2013 9:14:18 AM PDT by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: Jeff Winston

The only bad part about that is now the owners of the boat have a big mess to clean up.


72 posted on 04/20/2013 9:15:10 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Jeff Winston

I only hope they transfused him with tainted blood so once the information about the rest of the cell is extracted from him, he will languish in prison and suffer with which ever disease he contracted.


73 posted on 04/20/2013 9:15:10 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Do you think Obama will give an “enough is enough” type speech about Muslims like he did about guns after Sandy hook?

HA!

74 posted on 04/20/2013 9:15:54 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

pix of him getting out of the boat before he surrendered are with this article. (once again the Daily Mail is beating our US media)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311443/Boston-bomber-caught-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-captured-ALIVE-hiding-inside-BOAT.html


75 posted on 04/20/2013 9:18:33 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: chessplayer

Comparing this little maggot Khalid Sheikh Mohammed isn’t worth discussion. My fear is this little maggot will live out a comfortable life in some prison and be a role model for other little maggots. Maybe he’ll even get off because he didn’t have a lawyer when he was arrested.


76 posted on 04/20/2013 9:19:29 AM PDT by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: righttackle44

The fools didn’t even have money to get out of town.


They had $800 from the carjack victim’s ATM account. That is enough to get out of the country if they went NW and crossed into Canada somewhere remote. 12+ hours would have gotten them to the UP, where there are areas that are not well monitored.

Possibly, they stayed around because 1) as North Easterners, they only felt comfortable in their own region or 2)they were hampered by checkpoints or 3) they needed the support of the local Chechen community & 4) don’t forget the cops arrested 3 others in connection with all this, so they had a cell.

They were so blatant at the bombing and afterward that it might have been hubris, aka “hide in plain sight”. They also may have wanted to be martyred. That arrogance shows in the Tweets and FB postings. Hard to understand that they weren’t aware of all the camera surveillance, though.

I think they wanted martyrdom. #2 could have cut/dyed his hair in an hour, lost the white cap and changed clothes. He didn’t.


77 posted on 04/20/2013 9:20:00 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Carl Vehse

No.


78 posted on 04/20/2013 9:21:59 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: dragnet2

Oh, you’re right. We shouldn’t even try. Instead, we should just shoot him on the spot, then second-guess ourselves later when a previously unidentified compatriot of his shoots up a mall.

Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

(Although some of us are gifted with a nifty thing called “foresight.” You should look into it. It’s really cool.)


79 posted on 04/20/2013 9:22:21 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: henkster

They can charge him with possession of IEDs, which is a Federal crime.


80 posted on 04/20/2013 9:22:22 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Jeff Winston; GrandJediMasterYoda
Do you think Obama will give an “enough is enough” type speech about Muslims like he did about guns after Sandy hook?

Somehow I doubt it...


81 posted on 04/20/2013 9:23:04 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: Jeff Winston

Either to rot in jail for the next 60 years or (more likely) to rot in jail for the next 15 or 20 before they stick a needle in his arm.


The leftists will turn him lose and some liberal college will hire him.


82 posted on 04/20/2013 9:25:20 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: nutmeg

Is it actually ‘infiltration’ when they are purposely hiered into the job by those aiding and abetting? ... And our congress rubber stamped Brennan recently ...


83 posted on 04/20/2013 9:25:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: nutmeg

It’s going to be interesting to see how much the communist propaganda machine posing as our main stream media will ignore the Islamic connection in all this. I noticed last night CNN was calling the Islamic terrorists “boys”. “Oh the police have captured the boy in the boat but the boys brother has been killed. Both boys were being chased by police last night...”


84 posted on 04/20/2013 9:27:51 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Jeff Winston

I am praying he get leprosy... and diabetes....


85 posted on 04/20/2013 9:30:16 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: livius
"I seriously doubt that things are going to go badly for him"

He'll be a professor in some upstanding University or will receive a czar position in the white hut. I'm not sure which.

86 posted on 04/20/2013 9:30:19 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Moonman62
"I would think that a good K9 officer could have found him within an hour. Why did it take so long?"

Why didn't they use a drone?

87 posted on 04/20/2013 9:32:03 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: GreyFriar

Highly trained cop, practicing poor muzzle control.

88 posted on 04/20/2013 9:32:19 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: dragnet2

re: “How about a Republican president? After 911 Bush allowed into the U.S. more Muslims than the previous two decades...”

I’m not the one who said “he can pal around with a future Democrat president”, but I think the poster who did was referring to Bill Ayers and Obama. I think he was making a joke.

If Bush did what you claim that was indeed stupid, but name me some Republican president who hung around with former terrorists who set bombs at American military buildings or who killed American police personnel and are now professors in an American university?


89 posted on 04/20/2013 9:32:44 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Eagles6

I read that he was hit (shot) in the neck and a leg..


90 posted on 04/20/2013 9:35:54 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Sacajaweau

Didn’t one of the pictures at the marathon show one brother on a cell phone? Who was he talking to?


91 posted on 04/20/2013 9:39:57 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
It’s going to be interesting to see how much the communist propaganda machine posing as our main stream media will ignore the Islamic connection in all this. I noticed last night CNN was calling the Islamic terrorists “boys”. “Oh the police have captured the boy in the boat but the boys brother has been killed. Both boys were being chased by police last night...”

"Boys"??? You've got to be kidding me.

Hubby and I checked MSNBC for just a few minutes last night. Lots of long faces there. As always, they seemed uncomfortable and apologetic that we were - yet again - facing radical Muslim perps committing heinous, despicable crimes against innocent people on American soil. Such a shame the perp wasn't a white Tea Party type, huh?

It will be interesting indeed to see how the commie propaganda machine (aka MSM) will handle this...

92 posted on 04/20/2013 9:41:28 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

‘...in 12 years he’ll receive a professorship and tenure at one of our universities.’

my thought too! and, of course, he’ll write a book and make a ton of money. sad to think this way but, more sadly, this is possible by the disgraceful politically correct philosophy of our politicians and media.


93 posted on 04/20/2013 9:42:17 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: JimRed

Couldn’t believe his father said he had a bright future ahead of him. How out of touch was that?

Not at all, from a Jihadi father!


Was he an aspiring Rap Artist?


94 posted on 04/20/2013 9:42:25 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: freeandfreezing

Why did it take so long?
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Because Americans have been educated to give up their own independence and courage....”You didn’t build that”....and have been taught that guns are bad and Life is sacred..(unless its an innocent baby).

Years ago the men in the neighorhoods would have gotten their guns and searched their property and blocks and streets and found this muslim terrorists before the first tweet/youtube/facebook comment was out. You would have had ONE MILLION MEN LOOKING FOR THE TERRORIST....INSTEAD....YOU HAD 5 MILLION AMERICANS HIDING FROM TWO SCUMBAGS....THOUSAND OF POLICE RUNNING AROUND ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING! ......IF IT WASN’T FOR AN ORDINARY CITIZEN, ONE SINGLE ORDINARY UNPAID CITIZEN.....THE TERRORIST WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN FOUND!


95 posted on 04/20/2013 9:42:49 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: 4integrity

re: “sad to think this way but, more sadly, this is possible by the disgraceful politically correct philosophy of our politicians and media.”

Absolutely correct.


96 posted on 04/20/2013 9:44:00 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: chessplayer

What conspiracy? It’s actually happened. Remember the Lockerbie Bomber?


97 posted on 04/20/2013 9:44:01 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

[...the owners of the boat have a big mess to clean up.]

Don’t worry, if they find out he’s an 0 supporter they will send him a new and bigger boat and a clean up crew.

If he’s a republican they’ll send him some cheap paper towels and a bottle of Windex.


98 posted on 04/20/2013 9:44:30 AM PDT by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: Jeff Winston
Couldn't believe his father said he had a bright future ahead of him. How out of touch was that?

For 24 hours the bombers family was silent. No calls from mother, father, aunt, cousins, no friends nor college room mates called to turn them in.

Co-conspirators?

99 posted on 04/20/2013 9:45:48 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

‘...Why didn’t they use a drone?’

I wondered the same.


100 posted on 04/20/2013 9:53:24 AM PDT by 4integrity
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