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Boston bombings suspect... Tsarnaev bled for hours from neck, leg wounds, "might not have lived..."
CBS News ^ | April 20, 2013 | CBS News

Posted on 04/20/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by Jeff Winston

More details have emerged about the Friday night capture that brought the intensive manhunt for the Boston bombing suspects to an end. Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, had been hiding in a boat in Watertown, Mass. Authorities responded to a call from a local man late Friday, after he observed that a tarp covering his boat had been disturbed and there was blood in the boat.

The FBI hostage rescue teams (HRT) planned and executed their operation to clear the boat by lobbing "flash-bangs" into it, which forced the young man to climb out, according to CBS News senior correspondent John Miller. Later the agents observed that Dzhokhar had been shot in the neck and in the leg.

Based on "the amount of blood" the homeowner saw in the boat, it is likely Dzhokhar was shot as long as 20 hours before being discovered, Miller said, referring to the battle earlier Thursday that led to the death of the other bombing suspect, Dzhokhar's 26-year-old brother, Tamerlan.

It was a "fierce gun battle with police after the carjacking and the car chase, at which point they were apparently exchanging gun fire, but also throwing homemade grenades and one large satchel bomb at police officers, so he had been bleeding for a long time," Miller said.

In a photo of authorities apprehending Dzhokhar released Friday, a SWAT team medic can be seen administering an "ambu" resuscitation bag to assist him in his breathing. Another photo shows Dzhokhar climbing out of the boat under his own power, following the commands of the HRT (Hostage Rescue Team), and Miller said it is clear from the images that, "this is a guy who was very weak at this point and probably -- had he not been discovered -- he might not have lived."

A Department of Justice official told CBS News that the arresting agents used an exemption clause to the Miranda law, allowing them to first question Tsarnaev on immediate security concerns before reading him his rights.

"In a case when there are exigent circumstances -- public safety is involved," explains Miller, the exception can be invoked to quickly obtain information; namely "are there other explosives? Is there another plot to blow something up? Are there other people?"

Still, the use of the public safety exception is rare. "We almost never see that," Miller said, adding that i was last invoked to question Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the so-called "underwear bomber" on the Christmas Day 2009 flight into Detroit.

In the coming weeks authorities will continue to question Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who Miller calls "an intelligence windfall." He added that the primary questions for Tsarnaev are those posed by President Obama in his addresses to Boston and to the nation throughout the week: "How did you do this? How did you plan this? And did you have help?"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
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Had to abbreviate title slightly.

Sounds to me like he'll live. Either to rot in jail for the next 60 years or (more likely) to rot in jail for the next 15 or 20 before they stick a needle in his arm.

Couldn't believe his father said he had a bright future ahead of him. How out of touch was that?

1 posted on 04/20/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston; zot; Interesting Times

good stories and photos at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html


2 posted on 04/20/2013 8:09:51 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Jeff Winston
Too bad he surrendered. I would have liked him to have assumed room temperature.
3 posted on 04/20/2013 8:10:54 AM PDT by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: Jeff Winston

In a few months he’ll be diagnosed with end-stage prostate cancer, extradited back to Chechnya to die, experience a miraculous recovery, and incite terrorism for another 50 years.


4 posted on 04/20/2013 8:11:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jeff Winston

The younger brother probably knows some stuff, but obviously the older brother was the leader for the operation. We need to find out who pulled the older brother’s strings.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 8:12:09 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Jeff Winston

I think daddy knows a lot more than he’s letting on. Mommy said the son did a lot of skyping.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 8:14:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DuncanWaring

You probably have the cancer part right, but I think it’s more likely he’ll be Jack Rubyed.


7 posted on 04/20/2013 8:15:12 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: palmer

Notice they haven’t even mentioned computers, cell phones etc..


8 posted on 04/20/2013 8:15:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jeff Winston; zot; Interesting Times

1st dead bomber had wife and daughter, wife converted to Islam.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311809/Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-Boston-bomber-married-Katherine-Russell-converted-Islam-marry-him.html


9 posted on 04/20/2013 8:18:21 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Jeff Winston

Do you think Obama will give an “enough is enough” type speech about Muslims like he did about guns after Sandy hook? Whoa, I can’t breathe...Yeah I better not hold my breath.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 8:19:40 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: McGruff

Does anyone really believe this fairy tale CBS is passing on?


11 posted on 04/20/2013 8:20:51 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: DuncanWaring

Frankly, I think he’ll get a very light sentence and be out in no time. He’s going to be presented as someone who was just a follower of his older brother, felt lonely in America, just a poor picked upon Muslim who was trying to express his angst...well, you get the idea.

I seriously doubt that things are going to go badly for him.


12 posted on 04/20/2013 8:21:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: Jeff Winston

Used boat 4 sale. Some wear and tear. No reasonable offer refused.


13 posted on 04/20/2013 8:21:19 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Sacajaweau

True, the Newtown school shooter was way ahead of Jihadi 1 and 2 in keeping the feds out of his hard disk, but they still (allegedly) pieced it back together.


14 posted on 04/20/2013 8:22:26 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Jeff Winston

Well if we still had execution by electric chair he would have been correct!


15 posted on 04/20/2013 8:22:54 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Carl Vehse

Obvious Obama propaganda. This guy isn’t going to spill his guts.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 8:23:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Jeff Winston

Another photo shows Dzhokhar climbing out of the boat under his own power, following the commands of the HRT (Hostage Rescue Team), and Miller said it is clear from the images that, “this is a guy who was very weak at this point and probably — had he not been discovered — he might not have lived.”


His heart was probably very weak from the loss of blood. He’s lucky he didn’t have heart failure from the stress of just trying to climb out of the boat.


17 posted on 04/20/2013 8:26:47 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Jeff Winston
Couldn't believe his father said he had a bright future ahead of him. How out of touch was that?

Not at all, from a Jihadi father!

18 posted on 04/20/2013 8:26:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Jeff Winston

I would think that a good K9 officer could have found him within an hour. Why did it take so long?


19 posted on 04/20/2013 8:28:43 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DuncanWaring

re: “In a few months he’ll be diagnosed with end-stage prostate cancer, extradited back to Chechnya to die, experience a miraculous recovery, and incite terrorism for another 50 years.”

Good point, or, in 12 years he’ll receive a professorship and tenure at one of our universities.


20 posted on 04/20/2013 8:29:15 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Jeff Winston

What’ll it cost us to keep him alive and bring him to trial? $250 million? $500 million? And will we get anything useful from him in the end? Even if we do, most of the US is in total denial about the real enemy.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 8:29:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jeff Winston

Curious about all the shooting last night. Sounded like scores of rounds and they didn’t hit him. Did they have a target?


22 posted on 04/20/2013 8:30:04 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Romulus
Used boat 4 sale. Some wear and tear. No reasonable offer refused.

In fairness, the boat owner should be compensated for damage to his boat and any property damage to his home and grounds. But I'll bet the boat would get above market value at auction, as is.

23 posted on 04/20/2013 8:30:42 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Jeff Winston

And, of course, CBS couldn’t write an article without invoking a statement made by Obama.


24 posted on 04/20/2013 8:31:02 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Romulus

Yuck, you’re right. That boat is now worthless. The owners won’t use it and nobody will buy it. Maybe they can donate it to the new museum being built and dedicated to the brother’s jihad.


25 posted on 04/20/2013 8:31:22 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: McGruff

Too bad he surrendered. I would have liked him to have assumed room temperature.


Do you also wish Khalid Sheikh Mohammed wasn’t captured alive? I don’t understand why so many want this guy dead before we can even try to get any info from him.


26 posted on 04/20/2013 8:31:44 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: palmer
The younger brother probably knows some stuff, but obviously the older brother was the leader for the operation.

Given that we know next to nothing about the planning and execution of this atrocity, how is it "obvious" that the older brother was the brains of the operation?

27 posted on 04/20/2013 8:32:39 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jeff Winston

Reading from the headline, you almost get a sense that these jounalists wnat to say ‘Awwww, poor baby”.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 8:33:11 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Romulus

I was thinkin’...that boat could be worth a lot of money on EBay right now.

Bullet holes, Flash/Bang smudges, bloody deck...

A memento of the largest man-hunt in US history.

Watch for it, in 50 years, on Antiques Roadshow...


29 posted on 04/20/2013 8:33:27 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: DuncanWaring

In a few months he’ll be diagnosed with end-stage prostate cancer, extradited back to Chechnya to die, experience a miraculous recovery, and incite terrorism for another 50 years.


Lets go all conspiracy like lefties do.


30 posted on 04/20/2013 8:33:34 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I am pretty sure the house or at least one next door, had a Coldwell Banker for sale sign on it, which makes this a stigmatized property.


31 posted on 04/20/2013 8:34:03 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

I wonder how you’d write the full disclosure statement on the listing.


32 posted on 04/20/2013 8:35:05 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jeff Winston

Ran over his brother in the get-a-way?

How about he had orders to kill his brother if they got discovered, cornered, or caught!


33 posted on 04/20/2013 8:35:53 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: Jeff Winston

The bitter irony is that, if he does live, it will be partly due to transfusions of blood from Americans.


34 posted on 04/20/2013 8:36:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rusty schucklefurd

He’s an American Citizen. He had better get the same treatment as Timothy McVeigh.


35 posted on 04/20/2013 8:38:07 AM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Bill Ayers is offering him a position even as we speak.


36 posted on 04/20/2013 8:38:46 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Sacajaweau
I think daddy knows a lot more than he’s letting on.

Stories were that Daddy lives in Russia. If so, I bet he won't be long. Russian interrogation techniques are a tad rougher than ours are.
37 posted on 04/20/2013 8:39:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: McGruff

Don’t underestimate the intelligence value of capturing this one alive. He’s young and likely to break under intense interrogation.

I have a feeling he’ll spill the beans on whatever help they received.

In war, intelligence is often the bets asset.


38 posted on 04/20/2013 8:39:06 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Jeff Winston

I’m sure that the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center are lined up to represent him and get him sprung on bail so he can be flown out of the country.


39 posted on 04/20/2013 8:39:40 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Sacajaweau

A computer was removed yesterday morning from the house of the sister who lives in NJ.


40 posted on 04/20/2013 8:40:24 AM PDT by TomGuy
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“or (more likely) to rot in jail for the next 15 or 20 before they stick a needle in his arm.”

McVeigh was executed six years after the Oklahoma City Bombing.


41 posted on 04/20/2013 8:40:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Jeff Winston
Authorities responded to a call from a local man late Friday

Another citizen hero!

42 posted on 04/20/2013 8:42:16 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chessplayer

Haven’t been paying attention, have you?


43 posted on 04/20/2013 8:43:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Windflier

Older brother joined jihad in 2009 (according to Uncle). Older brother had 6 months of terrorist training. As far as we know the younger had none. The old brother ran into gunfire, the younger surrendered. The older brother studied engineering, the younger was pre-med.


44 posted on 04/20/2013 8:44:17 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Lol. Don’t know but it will definitely have to be disclosed and will also impact the value and actually other houses close to it.


45 posted on 04/20/2013 8:45:16 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: bolobaby

It will take an ACLU lawyer about an hour to get a loony judge to agree that the public safety exemption was a ruse and declare all his information tainted. Remember, Obama’s pal, Bomber Ayers’, was let go on a technicality too.He might never see a day of jail time and go right to Columbia.


46 posted on 04/20/2013 8:48:10 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: bolobaby
Don’t underestimate the intelligence value of capturing this one alive. He’s young and likely to break under intense interrogation.

How much more information does government need? What are they looking for they don't already know?

The family has already been questioned regarding possible terrorist activities in the past and one of these foreign criminals should have been deported at other crimes committed in the U.S. in 2009.

In addition, what kind of terrorist set off bombs in broad daylight, with cameras everywhere, and then walk a few blocks away and goes home?

Just guessing, but this does not seem too sophisticated.

47 posted on 04/20/2013 8:48:32 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TomGuy

On the bright side, bacon loving Americans.


48 posted on 04/20/2013 8:48:51 AM PDT by momto6
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To: Rebelbase

As I recall, McVeigh waived a lot of appeals.


49 posted on 04/20/2013 8:49:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

‘Good point, or, in 12 years he’ll receive a professorship and tenure at one of our universities.’

He can pal around with a future Democrat president....


50 posted on 04/20/2013 8:50:44 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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