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The Govt. or the Media. Which is worse?
04/18/2013 | R2

Posted on 04/18/2013 11:51:10 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

The Government or the media. Which is worse? Which is more corrupt, dishonest and untrustworthy? Think about the agendas they both have and give us an answer.


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Media. Then go on to explain why.

or...

Government. Then go on to explain why

1 posted on 04/18/2013 11:51:10 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Government or the Media: What’s the difference?


2 posted on 04/18/2013 11:53:21 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Responsibility2nd

The media. It is their job, the reason for their existance, to tell the truth, report the facts, objectively.


3 posted on 04/18/2013 11:53:53 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Yo-Yo

I’ll take that as a ‘No Opinion’.


4 posted on 04/18/2013 11:54:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The 4th estate is the new 3rd reich.


5 posted on 04/18/2013 11:55:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Govt. or the Media. Which is worse?

They are one and the same.

6 posted on 04/18/2013 11:55:19 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The media, because it is supposed to be reporting ON the government, not cheerleading it.

The Government would be taken care of by the citizens, if they were being told the truth.


7 posted on 04/18/2013 11:56:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

But if we had a government committed to telling the truth and reporting the facts, then wouldn’t the press follow suit?


8 posted on 04/18/2013 11:57:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Another ‘No Opinion’.


9 posted on 04/18/2013 11:58:00 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Under the current regime, The MSM, IS the State Run Media.

One and the same.


10 posted on 04/18/2013 11:58:13 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The "Fourth Estate" is the Fifth Column.

Has been for the last 60 years.

11 posted on 04/18/2013 11:58:58 AM PDT by dancusa (Molon Labe)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They are both sock puppets on the hands of the same actor. They are both evil and bent on control of the people and the destruction of American culture and values.


12 posted on 04/18/2013 11:59:14 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They are both sock puppets on the hands of the same actor. They are both evil and bent on control of the people and the destruction of American culture and values.


13 posted on 04/18/2013 11:59:24 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
They are one and the same. Look at the following people. Chris Matthews. Tim Russet. Jay Carney. Tony Snow. George Stephanopolous. David Gergen. All either political aides who went into journalism or vice versa.

Then there are Andrea Mitchell and others who are married to people in government.

-PJ

14 posted on 04/18/2013 12:00:29 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The media. They’re supposed to police both sides, the whole thing by reporting truth, facts. Republicans and Democrats have agendas and they’ll tell you so. Most of the media also have an agenda but won’t.


15 posted on 04/18/2013 12:01:28 PM PDT by ryan71 (The republican party is dead to me. Dead. Don't bother trying to revive it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The media. If the media doesn’t report what the government is doing or lies about what the government is doing then the people won’t know what’s going on.


16 posted on 04/18/2013 12:03:01 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Political Junkie Too; Vaquero; dancusa; jboot

I guess I wasn’t clear. Not looking for “all the same” answers. Just a little mental exercise as to which one is worse. And why


17 posted on 04/18/2013 12:03:48 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The media.

Here's why:

The USA is threatened by three enemies. They are:

1. Domestic left-wing, anti-American radicals.

2. Radical Islamist terrorists.

3. The so-called Mainstream Media.

And, of these three, the latter is the most damaging. Because, were it not for the support of the MSM, the other two enemies would've been defeated years ago.

18 posted on 04/18/2013 12:03:53 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Government. They confiscate our wealth and then use it against us. They operate with the force of law. The media do not.


19 posted on 04/18/2013 12:04:13 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Those days are over. Objectivity in reporting is gone.


20 posted on 04/18/2013 12:04:28 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Responsibility2nd

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.


21 posted on 04/18/2013 12:05:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Servant of the Cross

People have the right to elect the kind of government they want... it’s a free country. We have the right to object to some of the excesses...

The media in a free country can report however they want to - that’s what makes us free. But in the media’s case, since they should be governed by the laws of supply and demand - it would be in their best interest to report fairly and to present both sides. Their choice - but it they’re unfair, they’ll lose readers and viewers. Like any other business they have the right to make bad choices...


22 posted on 04/18/2013 12:05:59 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Responsibility2nd

MSM

The Leftist MSM are in people’s homes and control information, how it is presented and just as powerful what is not presented.

Their power is so terrible that you now see people posting that Republicans need to totally give up on all social issues.


23 posted on 04/18/2013 12:06:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Responsibility2nd

First you’ll have to make a distinction between them.


24 posted on 04/18/2013 12:06:51 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
People have the right to elect the kind of government they want... it's a free country. We have the right to object to some of the excesses... The media in a free country can report however they want to - that's what makes us free. But in the media's case, since they should be governed by the laws of supply and demand - it would be in their best interest to report fairly and to present both sides. Their choice - but if they're unfair, they'll lose readers and viewers. Like any other business in a free country they have the right to make bad choices...
25 posted on 04/18/2013 12:07:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: clintonh8r

Ahh. 1 vote (so far) for the government. Good arguments.


26 posted on 04/18/2013 12:07:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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I’m not up to that exercise. It’s like choosing between contracting Ebola or Marburg virus. Both will kill you in similar unpleasant ways.


27 posted on 04/18/2013 12:08:52 PM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The media for sure.

If they did their job correctly and consistently we would still benefit from a government operating within the bounds of the Constitution.

We would still be the land of the free; home of the brave.


28 posted on 04/18/2013 12:08:58 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Keep your eyes on Jesus. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.)
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To: SampleMan; GOPJ; Cicero

Dang. Too many ‘No Opinion’ answers.


29 posted on 04/18/2013 12:09:37 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SampleMan; GOPJ; Cicero

Dang. Too many ‘No Opinion’ answers.


30 posted on 04/18/2013 12:09:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The government is still more of a creature of the media than the other way around. Although BO has made it seem a whole lot like the other way around.


31 posted on 04/18/2013 12:10:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: jboot

That’s OK. Thanks for stopping by.


32 posted on 04/18/2013 12:10:31 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Government - it has guns and jails


33 posted on 04/18/2013 12:10:52 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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Two votes (so far) for the gubmint. Good points.


34 posted on 04/18/2013 12:12:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Stalin’s right or left hand - which is worse?


35 posted on 04/18/2013 12:13:07 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good question, but in fact the question is flawed:

The gov’t and media are not in fact completely seperate entities, or even mostly so.

The two form a handy complex, and the real power modulates between the two gov’t and media “poles” as the situation warrants.

The real concern about this gov’t/media complex lies in it’s long-term goal, which is the elimination of incomplete gov’t, aka, “freedom”.

The government/media complex regards what you see as freedom as a VOID that it must expand into, thereby completing what it sees as it’s proper form.


36 posted on 04/18/2013 12:13:37 PM PDT by gaijin
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MEDIA, the elft could not get away with half of their crap if the media did their job


37 posted on 04/18/2013 12:14:34 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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MEDIA, the elft could not get away with half of their crap if the media did their job


38 posted on 04/18/2013 12:14:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: okie01

Well stated, Okie.


39 posted on 04/18/2013 12:14:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Govt. or the Media. Which is worse?

Neither. Both. Hard to answer a question that starts with the false premise of one being worse than the other!

40 posted on 04/18/2013 12:16:20 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Really? Where in our Constitution or in our laws do you see the media being delegated these powers?


41 posted on 04/18/2013 12:16:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

There’s no distinction between them - MSM and current liberal government.

over 90% media admit they vote democrat.

They are just the “official” mouthpieces for government. they essentially are government, they are the Ministry of Truth and are counted on to spin events and ideas the way the (liberal) government wants them spun.

And if you don’t think that’s true, compare the MSM coverage of the president, and for example, issues between 1989-1992, 1993-2000, 2001-2008, and 2009-present.

The tone of the coverage under repubs is advesarial, critical and if they can find a negative angle they will run with that. The tone of coverage under dems is collegial, laughing, jovial, friendly, supportive, apologetic, and make excuses for anything bad they have to cover because it’s just so blatant they can’t ignore it.

THerefore MSM IS the democrat media arm of government, they ARE liberal government’s “Ministry of Truth”. They are a part of government. Their job is to further the agenda of liberal politicians, give them cover, and run hit pieces and attack pieces on enemies and enemy ideas and principles. All while claiming objectivity and unbiased reporting.

It’s laughable. It’s why more and more people don’t buy their crap anymore.


42 posted on 04/18/2013 12:16:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Implicit in your premise is the idea that the two are separate entities. Actually, they are, despite what some posters are saying. The confusion is due to the fact that they have the same agenda, both having been taken over by the Left. The question is which one’s being polluted by the Left does the most damage. I would say the media. Propaganda is very powerful. The politicians couldn’t get away with much if the media didn’t cover for them.


43 posted on 04/18/2013 12:17:02 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Responsibility2nd

The government is the media and

the media is the government.

They are two ends of the same sausage.


44 posted on 04/18/2013 12:17:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: usconservative

Hard? Or you just don’t know?


45 posted on 04/18/2013 12:17:50 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There’s no distinction between them ...

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Really? Our Constitution begs to differ. Come on... Pick one.


46 posted on 04/18/2013 12:19:19 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Hard? Or you just don’t know?

Neither. Your question starts with the false premise that one is worse than the other. That's not true.

Government wouldn't be able to get away with the things it does without their willing co-conspirator media whores and the media whore's wouldn't exist as they do today without the Government's sanction.

They're sympatico. They're also both parasites on the same host that is the American People. When two leeches (parasites) are sucking away your life's blood, how does one decide which one to pluck off first?

47 posted on 04/18/2013 12:20:53 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Chickensoup; cdcdawg

More “No Opinion” answers. It seems most FReepers have no opinion on the question, or worse yet - they honestly believe they are the same thing!

(Did I miss the election for CBS anchor?)


48 posted on 04/18/2013 12:21:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Which is worse? The media by far.

The government, like all governments, always grow even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say they are well-intentioned.

It is the media’s job to HONESTLY report the facts, not their opinions, but today it is always some facts only if the facts support their opinion.

If the media did there job, the government would begin to shrink and correct itself. Without an honest media, the government is free to grow as large and powerful and abusive as it can get as long as it leaves the media alone.

So, IMO it is no contest and honest media is much more important.


49 posted on 04/18/2013 12:21:57 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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The government.

It is a flat out betrayal when they don’t follow the constitution or the wishes of those they represent. They cut backroom deals and get connected in office, it will line their pockets for a lifetime. They make laws that the little people must follow but those laws don’t apply to them. We vote for/hire them and they abuse and mock us—they look out for one another no matter if it is the honest position to take or not.

We don’t vote for and hire the media but if we were determined, we could fire the media. How long could the media function if refused in mass to watch/read/listen to their BS? The media is filthy low down scoundrels but government is the greater evil.

I can turn the media off, I must wait years to try and vote a turd out of office. Even then they have people who own them and pay whatever it takes to have who they want in office. Sometimes the good guy wins but mostly it is all corrupt.


50 posted on 04/18/2013 12:22:44 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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