Posted on 03/17/2013 8:53:28 PM PDT by doug from upland
Moms and dads, watch your girls and warn them about getting so drunk that they don't know what is happening to them. What happened to her went viral on the internet. At least three teenagers whose lives will never be the same.
I don’t understand how any father could resist the urge to torch those boys with a flamethrower, had it been their daughter.
I wonder if his cellmate will say the same thing about him.
2 obsessions would be good to get rid of which are now rampant in this country: alcohol and sex. People need to stop seeing drinking as the end-all be-all of “fun”, and sex as something they just have to have. It’s all ruining everything. In short, morality is needed.
That is what some guys think. Parents have to warn their daughters about how dangerous it can be for them whether it is booze or drugs. Nothing good will happen for a girl who passes out.
Agreed. Yesterday, someone around here said something like “We’ve all been that drunk.” Well, *I* have never even approached being drunk. I don’t like the feeling I get after a single wine cooler. I like being in control of myself.
Back in college a younger sister of a gal came to a party. She got way too drunk and was coming onto all the older guys (including me). She was a real cutie too. She ended up passing out, and we locked her in a bedroom with her older sister to take care of her and me and a buddy guarded the door as the other guys were trying to get to her.
Yeah - we were stupid college kids. But luckily not as stupid as some/most.
This is what gentlemen do: protect women.
Please warn your daughters NOT to leave their beverages unattended. Wherever she goes, her drink (even nonalcoholic ones) should go with her or she should pitch it and get a different one when she comes back. She should avoid drinking from anyone else's cup and she should never try an unknown beverage on a dare. It's very easy to slip drugs into the drink to zonk her out. And also please warn her that she should have a buddy at the party with her at all times. She should never stay by herself with her new "friends" if her buddy wants to leave the party. And always always make sure she knows how to arrange safe transportation home if she and her buddy are both intoxicated.
One more thing. Men can be assaulted anally just as this unfortunate girl allegedly was. You don't hear about it as often when the victim is male, but male sexual assault victims are out there. Please talk to your sons too :)
When I was 15 I was so horny I would have raped a snake if someone held its head. Drunk, large males in the proximity of attractive young females in a drunken stupor is simply a recipe for disaster. The difference between the Victorians and modern Americans is that the Victorians had a far better understanding of human nature.
I am not excusing anyone here, the perpetrators, their parents, their friends, the girl, her parents, whatever nitwit supplied the alcohol. It’s murder on the Orient Express, they all did it.
At least this douche bag is on a video that will hopefully follow him for his short, miserable life.
She wasn’t in a drunken stupor, she was drugged. According to the story on another thread, she was the ex girlfriend of one of the guys involved and he set this up to get revenge on her for the break up.
And what do ladies do?
The poor, innocent, virginal, pure girl in this case just has such bad luck doesn’t she?!
She’s a female and by definition not able to be accountable for her actions. Is that how it is? It’s a question that occurs to me as I have followed this case.
The girl is a disgrace to her family and her community. Tell me how she isn’t.
The poor, innocent, virginal, pure girl in this case just has such bad luck doesn’t she?!
She’s a female and by definition not able to be accountable for her actions. Is that how it is? It’s a question that occurs to me as I have followed this case.
The girl is a disgrace to her family and her community. Tell me how she isn’t.
I don’t disagree with you at all about her accountability. Truly this woman had no lick of common sense to get herself into this predicament. To call her a “lady” would be a stretch. The men who took advantage of her were no gentlemen, neither were the ones who stood by and did nothing to help.
A lady would know that alcohol plus strange men don’t mix. She would avoid underage drinking and limit her alcohol consumption to moderate amounts only in the company of trusted family and friends — not strangers.
Also, I don’t think having a chaperone around at these parties is such a bad idea.
The GIRL didn’t rape or hurt anyone.
They weren’t “strangers”. She thought they were her friends.
I have heard an endless stream of news on this matter and obviously ALL the teenagers involved were and still are pigs. Not one person has asked about how this took place at these homes without any parents being there. Where and the hell were these kids moms and dads at when these acts took place? When will the parents be brought in for questioning about what took place in their homes? I think the parents should be held accountable to some degree since it was their little animals that took part in these acts. Who owned these houses where the molestations took place and where the hell were they at when they happened?
Well isn’t this young man just the cutest, wittiest, funniest little twerp you have ever seen? Sometime down the road, I pray he doesn’t have to have a daughter of his to go through someting like this. What a little jerk. My contempt for his arrogance knows no bounds.
“2 obsessions would be good to get rid of which are now rampant in this country: alcohol and sex. People need to stop seeing drinking as the end-all be-all of “fun”, and sex as something they just have to have. It’s all ruining everything. In short, morality is needed.”
Absolutely agree. Your chance of being hurt or killed by random gunfire is miniscule compared to being hurt or killed where alcohol is involved. So what do people want to ban? Guns. All the boozehounds on the left AND right want to keep their alcohol consumption legal.
You’re a disgrace to your user name.
Was she drugged? Was she intoxicated? In either case a child was abused. The only disgrace I see is your response.
Yep. And he's laid down an indelible Google trail!
Of course, Google's not the problem. The only way to get rid of Google is to invent something even more effective at "organizing the world's information". Which would make this young turd's trail even less delible!
I wonder how upcoming generations will cope with the long reputation trail?
You sure you’re not a Muslim?
Gee I wonder if his mother and father are as proud of him and think it is as funny as this a-hole thinks it is?
The district attorney is going to convene a grand jury. A lot of people are going to be in a lot of trouble.
Criminal solicitation? Reckless endangerment?
I imagine the grand jury would consider many criminal acts — underage drinking for one.
She was given a date rape drug. She was set up to be assaulted multiple times.
Parents must shoulder most of the blame for allowing their teenagers out at all hours of the night with no clue as to where they are or who is with them. Parents are allowing pre-teens to go to “parties” where all sorts of things are going on and nobody seems to have the guts to be a real parent and say no.
Parents are afraid to be parents and this is the result.
Not going to watch this from work, but I hope the judge throws the book at them.
Every dad’s nightmare.
Frankly, the men of Steubanville and of this country need to eliminate these excused for young men.
One of the reasons that people are rushing to Islam, is that Islam offers protection and punishment for crime. Criminals are not babied. Justice, although twisted, is served.
And no, jerks, I am not a Muzzie-sympathizer troll. I wish that our country could find its courage.
I don’t agree.Parents may need to warn their daughters, but Fathers have to straighten out their sons.
If this boy was my kid, I would beat his ass until he wasn’t able to laugh about this any more.This kid needs an ass whipping from his dad that would be Biblical.
Where are the fathers of these boys.Their Mothers must be whores to have raised them like this.
That’s right folks this is parental abuse to raise monsters like this.
First human institution enacted by God - Marriage.
Purpose - to produce Godly offspring.(Malachi 2:13-15)
OK, let’s say you’re a leftist, or one of Satan’s minions, but I repeat myself.
What would you do to destroy society? Destroy marriage. And do it in a way that those doing the destroying feel good about themselves for “helping people”.
Mission accomplished.
“There seems to be a concept abroad in the land that if a woman drinks too much you can do what you want with her body.”
Too bad more women don’t seem to know about it. Any man involved in this should be brutally punished, and any women (or in this case, girls) should be aware that such men exist.
she is a 16 yr old, not a woman, or a lady.
She is an imbecile, yes, but please stop insinuating she was in pursuit of what occurred.
I always tell my (grown) daughters that as a woman you have to remain in control of yourself lest someone with bad intentions takes advantage.
the parents were probably getting drunk/stoned/whatever in another part of the house.
I taught my daughters never to get drunk or go to parties without a bunch of friends to look out for each other. I don’t know if the victim’s parents did the same but the reality is that teaching teens anything is very hit or miss. They think they already know everything and are immune from bad stuff happening to them. I also know that young men can be pretty insensitive to the feelings of others. I did some pretty mean things to people when I was a teen that I truly regret now (nothing like these guys did). You just don’t realize how much of a jerk you are being because you are immature. Most people eventually grow out of it before they do something criminal. These guys didn’t and now have to pay.
How do you know she wasn’t in pursuit of having sex? You weren’t there.
So you agree that feamles are not responsible and are not to be held accountable for their actions. Thanks for clearing that up. BTW are you homosexual?
So since she didn’t commit the crime of rape and didn’t hurt anyone physically she is not accountable for her actions and she is not a disgrace to her family and community?
And if she hadn’t been “raped” she would then be a disgrace?
How does that work?
How is she not a disgrace? Your daughter acting as she acted is ok with you? That makes you a disgrace and an unfit parent.
You’re a disgrace to any name. You have no sound argument to answer me so you resort to petty name calling you miserable loser.
I win. :)
Good point abt why some turn to Islam in this country...
Many young black men who land in prison fill the void with the strictures of Islam, looking for what they needed in childhood...Malcolm X was one...
Unfortunately, sometimes it doesn’t work out for them (Malcolm X in fact) and their women become second class citizens.
Many of the leaders of the black community have truly let their people down...could say the same abt some in the white community, too.
What I’ve hear of the Black Islamist movement’s appeal is that it religiously justifies how its adherents want to behave anyway.
At CPAC, Dr. Ben Carter made this exact point...including how to destroy our country economically...it was spot on...
Not stupid at all. You had/have a conscience and you were brought up to tell the difference between right and wrong.
Good questions, but I would like to mention others.
No charges for underage consumption?
No charges for DUI?
Why didn’t others there (I refuse to call them men and women) help?
Why weren’t the coaches questioned?
Why was there such a huge coverup?
Why was the FBI not involved?
This is not the first time this scenario has been played out. How many girls has this happened to?
And let’s not forget the LEO’s.
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